ICE Confirms 65,000 Deportations, Majority With Criminal Records

There is so much bullshit there it is hard to unpack. No, the United States is not the only country that grants asylum. Matter of fact, we are under treaty obligation and international law, we are required to grant asylum to those that qualify.

And yes, those that claim asylum, and no, it is not some magic word, people have to demonstrate a real possibility that they can be granted asylum, people are turned away every single day. But those that are granted temporary asylum are due a hearing. So, let's hire some damn judges. Seems that is the place to start.
why should we hire judges when the amnesty seekers intentionally flood the system while knowing they are not eligible. And all they have to do to stay here is parrot some claim of persecution.

And what countries are doing better than the US. And don't bring up the UK
 
IF the shit hits the fan, I will be the one flushing you down the toilet (just like you did to the aborted babies) :happy-1: :happy-1:

The U.S. Constitution applies to everyone within the country, including undocumented immigrants, according to the U.S. Supreme Court. This includes basic constitutional rights like freedom of speech and religion, due process, and equal protection under the law.

There are few exceptions, but asylum seekers, who must be granted a hearing.

Right to due process​

What the law says: The Fifth Amendment states that “no person … shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.”

The issue of due process is at the heart of many immigration cases, including Reno v. Flores, the 1993 Supreme Court case that has returned to the spotlight with the surge in family separations. The case led to an agreement requiring the government to release children to their parents, a relative or a licensed program within 20 days.

In the ruling, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote “it is well established that the Fifth Amendment entitles aliens to due process of law in deportation proceedings.”

How it works in practice: Immigrants have the right to due process. But in reality, says, Andrew Arthur, a resident fellow in law and policy at the conservative Center for Immigration Studies, “courts of law run the gamut.”

In some cases, immigrants are not granted a hearing at all. When asked about the president’s tweet, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders pointed to the process of “expedited removal,” which was created by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996.

“Just because you don’t see a judge doesn’t mean you aren’t receiving due process,” Sanders said.

Under the expedited removal process, immigrants who have been in the country illegally for less than two years and are apprehended within 100 miles of the border can be deported almost immediately without going through a court hearing.

The exception is asylum seekers, who must be granted a hearing.

Those who are not processed through expedited removal have the right to due process in an immigration court, where the main goal is to decide whether a person has a legal claim to remain in the U.S.

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Like in a sinking boat, it's not so much how many gallons you bail out, it's also how big is the leak letting it come in. You have to stop the bleeding first. Using the old death penalty stupidity thinking here, let all murders go because one may have been caught up questionably.

Wrong.
First of all, the immigrants are ambitious and hard working, so are a net gain.
Second is that blocking native immigration violates the treaties we signed with Mexico when we bought the south west states from Mexico.
Third is that the death penalty did not reduce murders at all, but increased them instead because it showed by example that killing people was ok.
The penalty for murder is prison time if you want to reduce murders.
 
barack obama
AKA Deporter and Chief
Over 3 million deportations
Most of them had no due process

Wrong.
If you make a deal that there is no penalty in addition to the deportation if you forgo the hearing, that is still due process.

It is and always has to be illegal to deport without due process.
The Constitution requires it.
 
They're POWs. They get sent to a POW camp. One of those camps happens to be in El Salvador. They're getting what they have coming. The only injustice here is that the Democrats who aided and abetted their invasion are getting away Scott free. MAGA

Wrong.
POWs have more rights than citizens due to Geneva Convention protections.
It is illegal to send POWs to another country.
POWs can request hearings at any time, and the only reason they do not is because they like POWs perks.

What you are likely confused by is how badly we treated Afghans at Guantanmo.
But that was because we refused to give them POW status, not because they were POWs.

If you understand the Constitution, the Bill of Rights apply to all human beings, not just citizens. There were no citizens back then.
 
All you did was prove that the damage Biden did to America by importing millions of illegals was so extensive that it will take decades to undo.

Wrong.
Immigration has always had its up and downs, but immigrants have always been a plus and never a minus.
 
Did the millions deported by Obama have hearings? Do the math. Maybe that was the strategy all along. Let in 10-20 million and then claim they should all get a trial. We all know that is not possible.

Prove they didn’t sneak in or they are out. Do you have the paperwork or don’t you? No trial necessary. We can then deal with those who came in through a legal port of entry who may have also lied to gain entry.

Wrong.
Everyone was always offered a hearing in the past.
That is why citizens did not get illegally deported by clerical mistakes.
It is trivial to offer everyone hearings.
In most cases, a hearing can take 30 seconds.

They do not have to "prove" anything.
The burden of proof is always on the prosecution.
And yes, trials are always necessary if they want one.

Those legally seeking asylum, which includes everyone on Venezuela, can't apply until they are here, because they are not allowed to apply anywhere else.
 
Cite the law and text, if you please. Sounds like made-up bullshit. Does a theater owner require a court order to expel a gate crasher from the concert?

DGS49, no similarity. The concert grounds are private, and it the person expelled as gate crasher can just sue if they were illegally denied their right to see the concert.
If you illegally deport citizens, you are depriving them of their home, possessions, family, etc., and can cause their death.
That is vastly more serious and in fact is criminal to mistakenly deport.
 
Biden brought in an additional 10 million illegals during his four years. We now have around 20 million of these people, dragging down America.

It will take decades to undo the four years of Biden’s agenda to bring down America.

Wrong.
Fact check says Biden allowed in less than 5 million.

{...
Haley said, "We’ve had 8 million" immigrants come to the U.S. illegally under Biden and they only sent back 142,000."
There have been 8.1 million encounters with migrants nationwide under Biden, but that number does not represent unique individuals. And not all who were stopped were allowed to stay in the U.S.
The 142,000 refers only to ICE removals in fiscal year 2023. But that is not the only way migrants can be sent out of the U.S. There have been 3.6 million removals, returns and expulsions under Biden’s administration. This data also represents events, not people.
Haley’s claim contains an element of truth in the numbers she cites but ignores additional data and critical context about immigration.
We rate it Mostly False.
...}
Fact check: Have '8 million' migrants come to the U.S. under Biden?
 
Biden brought in an additional 10 million illegals during his four years. We now have around 20 million of these people, dragging down America.

It will take decades to undo the four years of Biden’s agenda to bring down America.

Illegals all produce far more than they consume, and there is no welfare for them.
 
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Two U.S. citizen children were sent on their mother’s deportation flight to Honduras without the opportunity to speak with attorneys, leaving a 4-year-old boy with Stage 4 cancer without access to his medication, according to the National Immigration Project. Gracie Willis, an attorney with the organization, told NBC News that the boy and and his 7-year-old sister were detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Thursday. They were taken to El Paso, Texas, and flown to Honduras first thing Friday morning, Willis said. The 4-year-old boy, who was actively receiving treatment for a rare form of cancer, was flown to Honduras without his medication, according to Willis and the National Immigration Project. Attorneys were preparing a habeas corpus petition when the children were taken out of the U.S. on an ICE charter flight before the petition could be filed, Willis said.

This is a lie. The mother made it well known that she intended to take them and no lawyer anywhere can stop that.
 
why should we hire judges when the amnesty seekers intentionally flood the system while knowing they are not eligible. And all they have to do to stay here is parrot some claim of persecution.

And what countries are doing better than the US. And don't bring up the UK

Wrong.
Imposing economic sanctions is illegal, so all those from countries we impose illegal economic sanctions on, like Venezuela, automatically have a right to asylum.
Read up on how when we imposed economic sanctions on Castro's Cuba, that millions of Cubans became citizens in Miami.
 
This is a lie. The mother made it well known that she intended to take them and no lawyer anywhere can stop that.

Wrong.

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Three young children who are US citizens - including one with cancer - were deported to Honduras alongside their mothers last week, according to advocacy groups and the families' lawyers.

One of the children is a four-year-old with Stage 4 cancer who was sent without medication, a lawyer for the child's family said.

Donald Trump's border czar Tom Homan said the mothers had made the choice for their citizen children to be removed with them. "Having a US citizen child does not make you immune from our laws," he said, adding the mothers were in the US illegally.
...}

It is totally illegal to deport the parents of US citizen children.
The law is clear, and if you have a US citizen child, you ARE immune to immigration laws.
 
Wrong.

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Three young children who are US citizens - including one with cancer - were deported to Honduras alongside their mothers last week, according to advocacy groups and the families' lawyers.

One of the children is a four-year-old with Stage 4 cancer who was sent without medication, a lawyer for the child's family said.

Donald Trump's border czar Tom Homan said the mothers had made the choice for their citizen children to be removed with them. "Having a US citizen child does not make you immune from our laws," he said, adding the mothers were in the US illegally.
...}

It is totally illegal to deport the parents of US citizen children.
The law is clear, and if you have a US citizen child, you ARE immune to immigration laws.
they werent deported,, the parents chose to take the children with them,,


 
Not Bullshit.

She chose to take her children and you show Me the lawyer is willing to separate a mother from her children in this political climate.

Go ahead. I won't wait.
The children are US citizens. They were denied due process. Take a dirt nap, seriously
 

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