ICE arrests Palestinian activist who helped lead Columbia University protests, his lawyer says

[Marener]

If you don't like or agree with the statutes as written by Congress, and signed by the POTUS, then I suggest you take it up with your congress critter, or contact Mr. Khilil and offer your vast services for his defense. Short of that, I have the statute on my side, and you have emotional arguments...

How's that for funny?....

You mean the statute that says Trump can deport anyone he wants for expressing opinions he doesn’t like?

 

[Meister]

Not really...

He was a spokesman at the start but did not participate in the sit in... Only ones calling him a leader of CUAD is right media...

Also that 'Armed Resistence' was two years after that and a lot of people disassociated themselves from the group when that happened...

Again another thing to prove in court...

 

[j-mac]

Right, we need to take stock....

Has anyone from the MAGA Lot have actual evidence of this man committing a crime...

You claim he is this leader of this pro Hamas group, but you don't seem to have a single comment from him supporting Hamas...

This guy gave dozens of interviews..

Good grief you people are stupid....

1. Mr. Khilil doesn't have to have committed ANY crime in order for the SoS to believe that he is a threat to foreign policy. Read the Statute.

2. The upper chambers of our government believe he is a National Security threat, and he is NOT a US citizen, therefore they can revoke his permission to be here, and give him a ride back to his country of origin...Simple as that....

The mistake you people are making is that you believe that because he is here, he is afforded ALL of the privileges of a US citizen. You'd better do some serious research if you want to continue that position.

 

[CowboyTed]

Pro-Palestinian Group at Columbia Now Backs ‘Armed Resistance’ by Hamas​

Columbia University Apartheid Divest has withdrawn an apology it made last spring for a member who said “Zionists don’t deserve to live.”


The pro-Palestinian group that sparked the student encampment movement at Columbia University in response to the Israel-Hamas war is becoming more hard-line in its rhetoric, openly supporting militant groups fighting Israel and rescinding an apology it made after one of its members said the school was lucky he wasn’t out killing Zionists.

“We support liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance,” the group, Columbia University Apartheid Divest, said in its statement revoking the apology.

The group marked the anniversary of the Oct. 7 attack on Israel by distributing a newspaper with a headline that used Hamas’s name for it: “One Year Since Al-Aqsa Flood, Revolution Until Victory,” it read, over a picture of Hamas fighters breaching the security fence to Israel. And the group posted an essay calling the attack a “moral, military and political victory” and quoting Ismail Haniyeh, the assassinated former political leader of Hamas.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/09/nyregion/columbia-pro-palestinian-group-hamas.html

hat tip to Wild Bill Kelsoe







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Not Proof...

An Organisation that he was once affiliated to previously...

The Organisation hasn't even broken the law...

Have you proof of him exactly..
Can I point out as well... They supported Palestinian “liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance”.
These are the people who are getting bombed by IDF, right to self defence is still allowed.
Shooting by at IDF attacking you is not a war crime, it is actually trying to defend yourself and your family.

 

[j-mac]

You mean the statute that says Trump can deport anyone he wants for expressing opinions he doesn’t like?

It states that the Secretary of State can deport him if he considers him a threat to Foreign policy....Again, read the statute. Would you like me to post it yet again?

 

[Rawley]

You mean the statute that says Trump can deport anyone he wants for expressing opinions he doesn’t like?

Nope

 

[Rawley]

Not Proof...

An Organisation that he was once affiliated to previously...

The Organisation hasn't even broken the law...

Have you proof of him exactly..
Can I point out as well... They supported Palestinian “liberation by any means necessary, including armed resistance”.
These are the people who are getting bombed by IDF, right to self defence is still allowed.
Shooting by at IDF attacking you is not a war crime, it is actually trying to defend yourself and your family.

You asked for evidence that he supported Hamas. In this letter, from the group he leads, published by the NYTimes, expressly, explicitly, advocated that Hamas should engage in armed resistance.

 

[Rambunctious]

So you have a hypothetical situation which never happened...
Ever consider why?

Have we proof of Obama or Biden deporting people for hold opposing political view?

Nope , you got nothing... That is why you are not using your imagination..

Just holding up a mirror... what don't like what you see?....

 

[Marener]

It states that the Secretary of State can deport him if he considers him a threat to Foreign policy....Again, read the statute. Would you like me to post it yet again?

So the SoS determines what is acceptable for green card holders to say.

I thought you guys wanted free speech?

 

[WEATHER53]

Name the law and charge then.

He was arrested so nothing to prove and everything was properly in place for the arrest
Are you a Hamas terrorist?

 

[CowboyTed]

Good grief you people are stupid....

1. Mr. Khilil doesn't have to have committed ANY crime in order for the SoS to believe that he is a threat to foreign policy. Read the Statute.

You can read the statue but I don't think Judges look at it that way.

2. The upper chambers of our government believe he is a National Security threat, and he is NOT a US citizen, therefore they can revoke his permission to be here, and give him a ride back to his country of origin...Simple as that....

Not really... Writing it down and it being constitutional are two different things...
You are basically saying the ICE can be a secret Police who can deport up to 12.9 million US residents (green card holders)without cause...
ICE can also arrest US Citizens in there operation of getting those green card holders.
Sounds very Gestapo..

The mistake you people are making is that you believe that because he is here, he is afforded ALL of the privileges of a US citizen. You'd better do some serious research if you want to continue that position.

He doesn't get all the rights but he gets enough...

 

[Rawley]

Not really...

He was a spokesman at the start but did not participate in the sit in... Only ones calling him a leader of CUAD is right media...

Dude, he was literally holding the phone when they were negotiating with the President of Barnard to end the illegal occupation of a school building.

 

[Meister]

So the SoS determines what is acceptable for green card holders to say.

I thought you guys wanted free speech?

That is kind of a weak response, Marener.
just an observation

 

[Rambunctious]

Trump was prosecuted in a court of law with due process. And he wasn’t prosecuted for wrongthink.

That’s all very different than what is happening here where there’s no alleged crimes. No due process. Just having an opinion that the administration deems undesirable.

That's right... the Trump administration needs a real crime before they prosecute someone unlike Merrick Garland's DOJ... but listen closely because I'm tiered of repeating myself... they don't need a crime to revoke his visa....

 

[Rawley]

So the SoS determines what is acceptable for green card holders to say.

I thought you guys wanted free speech?

You don't know how much joy is brings to us that your cult has chosen this scumbag to be the face of your party. Please, keep it up.

 

[Rambunctious]

If this student were honest in his interview for a visa and told the truth of how he felt about Jews and Israel he never would have gotten the visa...

 

[martybegan]

If this student were honest in his interview for a visa and told the truth of how he felt about Jews and Israel he never would have gotten the visa...

Under a Democrat administration he probably would anyway.

 

[WEATHER53]

Whether or not Trump is 'enforcing them' depends on the determination of facts, and, from what I can tell, those facts have yet to be determined.

A lawful permanent resident, holding a green card, cannot be deported simply for voicing pro-Hamas sentiments at a protest, so long as his expression remains within the realm of protected speech and does not cross into conduct deemed criminal or in violation of immigration law.

The First Amendment, after all, does not apply only to the likable, the respectable, or the politically palatable; it extends even to those whose views are detested by the majority. However, the moment speech becomes something more--if he were to provide funding, shelter a combatant, or in any way offer material support to Hamas, which the United States classifies as a foreign terrorist organization, he would have stepped into the territory of deportable offenses.

The law is precise in its distinctions, and mere protest, however distasteful to some, does not meet the threshold. Only if his words incite violence in a legally actionable way, if he encourages specific acts of terrorism, or if he participates in a riot or criminal activity, could his residency be called into question.

But absent those factors, his green card remains secure, his status unchanged, and his right to express even the most loathsome views remains intact, however much it may disturb the sensibilities of the state.

His bunch chased students into a classroom amounting to hostage holding and prohibited their entry into classes
He’s a guest of and in the USA yet behaves as a terrorist douche. Kicking his guest ass out is entirely lawful and appropriate. Stop supporting mental midget deviants

 

[Rawley]

If this student were honest in his interview for a visa and told the truth of how he felt about Jews and Israel he never would have gotten the visa...

Well, he was granted the Visa during the Biden administration, so it's doubtful he was ever asked any such questions.

 

[otto105]

He was arrested so nothing to prove and everything was properly in place for the arrest
Are you a Hamas terrorist?

He was detained.

Arrested would mean that there were sufficient evidence for charges.