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Attacking our foreperson undermines our service.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...rial-attacking-jurors-undermines-our-service/

Exerpts from his op-ed.

"Lost amid the avalanche of allegations about the trial and sentencing of Roger Stone are some critical facts and a striking irony: The jury foreperson, who has been the subject recently of numerous ad hominem attacks, was actually one of the strongest advocates for the rights of the defendant and for a rigorous process. She expressed skepticism at some of the government’s claims and was one of the last people to vote to convict on the charge that took most of our deliberation time.

Stone received a fair trial. But events since his trial threaten to undermine the equal administration of justice.

Our foreperson wrote in support of the prosecutors on her personal Facebook page, revealing that she had been on the jury and was its foreperson. Since then, she has been attacked, including by the president, as though she was personally responsible that Stone had been found guilty and that the verdict was thus unfair. The president and others have called the trial and sentencing decision a “miscarriage of justice.” Amid the onslaught of criticism of a U.S. citizen who fulfilled her civic duty as a juror and exercised her First Amendment right to free expression, Stone has used the manufactured controversy to demand a mistrial on the basis of jury misconduct and even to demand that the judge recuse herself for bias in favor of the jury.

There is no factual basis to say that the Stone jury was tainted or otherwise biased against the defendant. We conducted ourselves exactly as juries are supposed to. We looked at each element of every charge in isolation. We examined the evidence. We attempted to construct alternative explanations. We discussed each charge and conducted secret ballots and voice polls. We went around the room to ensure that quieter jurors were heard. As individuals, we did not vote guilty until we were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. As a group, we did not return a verdict until we had reached a unanimous decision.

These events raise serious concerns for me not merely as a juror in the trial but also for the threat to our bedrock principles.

Elected officials have no business attacking citizens for performing their civic duty. The jury system is rooted in English common law and enshrined in both Article III and the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution; it is fundamental to the American system of justice. All of us need to be concerned when this process is attacked. More than 1.5 million Americans are impaneled on juries every year, according to the National Center for State Courts. Federal service is more rare than state-level service, but a 2007 center report found that more than a third of Americans will serve on a jury at some point in their lifetimes. Jurors are not merely expected but required to judge facts fairly. We are required to disclose any potential bias and are asked whether that potential bias would prevent us from rendering an impartial verdict.

Our foreperson oversaw a rigorous process, slowing us down on several occasions and advocating for the rights of the defendant.

Roger Stone received a fair trial. He was found guilty based on the evidence by a jury that respected his rights and viewed the government’s claims skeptically. Our jury valued truth, plain and simple. U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson echoed this sentiment last week while sentencing Stone: “The truth still exists; the truth still matters.”
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The Adulterer-in-Chief didn't like the outcome of the trial. Because Stone, a friend who lied and withheld testimony to protect Individual 1 from exposure to accountability for his criminality, was fairly convicted, unanimously, by a jury.

Every American should be able to put partisanship aside and recognize what a threat to our system of justice Don's despicable behavior really is. If this was any other person but the prez he would be held in contempt of court.
 
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Are you on crack? She was bias!
I'm going with the guy who served on the jury and personally saw her behavior. Not a Trump sycophant like yourself who makes assertions coming out of your ass.
 

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Stone's only hope was "jury nullification." This is what happens when the jury rises up and says, "The law, the case, this prosecution, and legally-prescribed punishments are BULLSHIT, and we are going to acquit regardless of the evidence."

But Stone is far from a sympathetic character. He is an ass-hole.

Unfortunately for him, the law, the case, the prosecution, and the legally-prescribed punishments WERE bullshit. He should have gotten off with a fine and an admonishment not to do it again.

He will be pardoned after the coming election. To no one's surprise.
 

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It's good to know that fake news is alive and well. I'm just glad Trump is running unopposed in Nov and we have 4 more years to start locking up these lying motha fuckers.
 

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So he's a good guy now? I don't care if he's pardoned or not, as far as being a good guy? I'd bet everything not.
 

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Roger Stone received a fair trial. He was found guilty based on the evidence by a jury that respected his rights and viewed the government’s claims skeptically.
That person did not apparently view the government claims skeptically ENOUGH... NOTHING related to Mueller probe was ever charged or brought to trial... THis was one of MANY Mueller "process crime" trials that have RUINED the lives, finances and reputations of good Americans that did NOTHING criminally wrong with respect to the scope of the investigation...

Most everyone following this trial KNOWS that Stone is an eccentric conspiracy nut.. His "lies" were about "made up shit" in the 1st place.

As far as jury bias, I have no real general case to make.. But I DO have SEVERE problems with the dishonest disclosures of the Foreperson.. If SHE was held to the same "process crime" standards for not being forthcoming with biases and hidden facts when she was interviewed, SHE'D be in as much trouble as Stone...

AND -- jury trials in a jurisdiction like that DO NOT PREVENT bias when defense or prosecution only gets a couple chances to dismiss people...
 
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Unfortunately for him, the law, the case, the prosecution, and the legally-prescribed punishments WERE bullshit. He should have gotten off with a fine and an admonishment not to do it again.
So..........if you are a friend of the prez you get to purger yourself to protect him, tamper with a witness, threaten a witness, threaten a judge, and get off scot free instead of serving time for being convicted of 7 felonies. Got it.
 
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NOTHING related to Mueller probe was ever charged or brought to trial
OMG! This again!!!!!!!! Mueller could not pursue charges on the obstruction he proved because of the OLC prohibition against indicting a sitting prez. Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
 

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Attacking our foreperson undermines our service.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...rial-attacking-jurors-undermines-our-service/

Exerpts from his op-ed.

"Lost amid the avalanche of allegations about the trial and sentencing of Roger Stone are some critical facts and a striking irony: The jury foreperson, who has been the subject recently of numerous ad hominem attacks, was actually one of the strongest advocates for the rights of the defendant and for a rigorous process. She expressed skepticism at some of the government’s claims and was one of the last people to vote to convict on the charge that took most of our deliberation time.

Stone received a fair trial. But events since his trial threaten to undermine the equal administration of justice.

Our foreperson wrote in support of the prosecutors on her personal Facebook page, revealing that she had been on the jury and was its foreperson. Since then, she has been attacked, including by the president, as though she was personally responsible that Stone had been found guilty and that the verdict was thus unfair. The president and others have called the trial and sentencing decision a “miscarriage of justice.” Amid the onslaught of criticism of a U.S. citizen who fulfilled her civic duty as a juror and exercised her First Amendment right to free expression, Stone has used the manufactured controversy to demand a mistrial on the basis of jury misconduct and even to demand that the judge recuse herself for bias in favor of the jury.

There is no factual basis to say that the Stone jury was tainted or otherwise biased against the defendant. We conducted ourselves exactly as juries are supposed to. We looked at each element of every charge in isolation. We examined the evidence. We attempted to construct alternative explanations. We discussed each charge and conducted secret ballots and voice polls. We went around the room to ensure that quieter jurors were heard. As individuals, we did not vote guilty until we were convinced beyond a reasonable doubt. As a group, we did not return a verdict until we had reached a unanimous decision.

These events raise serious concerns for me not merely as a juror in the trial but also for the threat to our bedrock principles.

Elected officials have no business attacking citizens for performing their civic duty. The jury system is rooted in English common law and enshrined in both Article III and the Sixth Amendment of the Constitution; it is fundamental to the American system of justice. All of us need to be concerned when this process is attacked. More than 1.5 million Americans are impaneled on juries every year, according to the National Center for State Courts. Federal service is more rare than state-level service, but a 2007 center report found that more than a third of Americans will serve on a jury at some point in their lifetimes. Jurors are not merely expected but required to judge facts fairly. We are required to disclose any potential bias and are asked whether that potential bias would prevent us from rendering an impartial verdict.

Our foreperson oversaw a rigorous process, slowing us down on several occasions and advocating for the rights of the defendant.

Roger Stone received a fair trial. He was found guilty based on the evidence by a jury that respected his rights and viewed the government’s claims skeptically. Our jury valued truth, plain and simple. U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson echoed this sentiment last week while sentencing Stone: “The truth still exists; the truth still matters.”
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The Adulterer-in-Chief didn't like the outcome of the trial. Because Stone, a friend who lied and withheld testimony to protect Individual 1 from exposure to accountability for his criminality, was fairly convicted, unanimously, by a jury.

Every American should be able to put partisanship aside and recognize what a threat to our system of justice Don's despicable behavior really is. If this was any other person but the prez he would be held in contempt of court.
Your "foreperson" committed perjury to get on the jury...That liar and the blatantly biased "judge" are the ones undermining the system of equal justice.
 

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Are you on crack? She was bias!
I'm going with the guy who served on the jury and personally saw her behavior. Not a Trump sycophant like yourself who makes assertions coming out of your ass.
From your signature line, I'm doubting that you're a great choice to find bias in the Stone trial...
 
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Your "foreperson" committed perjury to get on the jury...That liar and the blatantly biased "judge" are the ones undermining the system of equal justice.
All the evidence showed Stone was guilty. But please do keep trying.
 

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NOTHING related to Mueller probe was ever charged or brought to trial
OMG! This again!!!!!!!! Mueller could not pursue charges on the obstruction he proved because of the OLC prohibition against indicting a sitting prez. Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
But the HoR could pursue impeachment proceedings based on the report, if there was anything in there to call for it....But they didn't because there wasn't.

Did you just crawl out from under a rock?
 

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Your "foreperson" committed perjury to get on the jury...That liar and the blatantly biased "judge" are the ones undermining the system of equal justice.
All the evidence showed Stone was guilty. But please do keep trying.
Moving the goalposts....Irrelevant to the lying juror and the blatantly biased judge.
 

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