I Think My School District Just Turned Me Into A Trump Voter

[Marion Morrison]

g5 is mixing apples with oranges. Columbine happened a lonnnng time before Trump.
And has been happening ever since because stupid ******* idiots in this country think that a gun in the wrong hands is still more important than a human life.
Until it's theirs.
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Columbine , how many 'Columbine' type events were there in the whole year of 2018 and how many kids were killed in Black Swan events in 2018 '2020' .

How many school shooters have been on SSRIs and occurred after mental institutions were closed in favor of "chemical restraints"?

 

[hazlnut]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

I was on your side, but then realized I had started reading at the second line...

When I went back and read "high school sophomore"... no, sorry...

'cause that's what "kids" do... Jesus, the apple is right next to that tree...

 

[Pogo]

Geez, the black ones were hopping all over the place in shop class with rubber band guns. It's just kids being kids. I had already done all that by 8th grade. I wanted to make a gun rack with the bandsaw.

8th grade and they're pew-pewing it around the shop tables.

We made little cannons in wood shop. It was my first lathe project. Natch we had lots of pretend cannon battles. Not a single trip to the principal's office.

Interesting where our values take us. My wood projects were first a candelabra and then a model of a grand piano. About two inches tall.

Sure enough I went on to make several more (real) musical instruments....

 

[pismoe]

When the left wants to destroy and or control a nation, they infiltrate education and control the minds of the children including what they are allowed to say, think, believe, understand as truth, demonstrate.

The teacher is supposed to be trained herself in logic, reason, and critical thinking and if she is, she knows the difference between a threat and kids just being kids. At the very most the 'offense' as described in the OP merited a simple warning that it violated the rules and, unless it was repeated, that should have been it. Given no other information, the school greatly overreacted. And I can believe that to be the case because of so many incidents of this type--many involving very young children--in which the school overreacted every bit as inappropriately.

It's sad to say this but in this day and age we really don't know who is joking and who isn't. Who is on the verge of snapping. School age children are holding "shooting drills" the way we held Fire Drills when I was growing up.

This is what is going in your schools now every day. Children are afraid to go to school because they fear their school is next. If you're are arming teachers, locking down schools, and having armed guards with semi-automatic weapons in the hallways, you're telling them their fears are justified.

I agree. Political correctness, hyper partisanship, what I call the 'snowflake' syndrome of being afraid or hyper senstive of anybody or any idea that is uncomfortable to you, and a society in which coarseness, rudeness, violence, cruelty, and villains are glorified has made us a hugely divided and more dangerous society than I would have ever though possible 40 or 50 years ago. Irresponsible parents now leave it up to the schools to feed, sometimes clothe, and look after every aspect of a child's well being and don't care what the kids are actually learning or not learning. And because most schools are simply not up the task either to rear or educate those kids properly, we all have suffered.

And the school puts more importance and reacts most forcefully on a kid simulating 'bang bang' with his finger than it puts on how that kid is being prepared to be a happy, successful, productive citizen.

So yes, with very few exceptions, I would not trust the schools with the well being or education of my children these days. I would home school.

No, what’s made us a divided society is conservatives attempting to propagate nonsense such as political correctness, snowflake syndrome, and being hyper-sensitive.

Conservatives are at complete liberty to express their bigotry, racism and hate – and those opposed to bigotry and racism are at liberty to denounce that hate.

And to denounce bigotry, racism, and hate is not to compel ‘political correctness’ or to behave like a ‘snowflake’; no one seeks to deny conservatives their right to express their views and opinions.

As to the alleged incident in the OP…

What most conservatives fail to understand is that schools are subject to unrealistic expectations and impossible demands – school administrators are constantly faced with lose/lose situations.

A student makes references to gun violence, the school does nothing, the student kills 20 students and teachers the next day, the school is blamed and pilloried.

A student makes references to gun violence, the school takes what it considers to be appropriate steps, the school is blamed and pilloried for being ‘politically correct,’ 'hyper-sensitive' and staffed by ‘snowflakes.’

---------------------------------------- naw , a large part of USA school system and education is staffed by P.C. flakes and nutjobs whose entire job is simply a push for paychecks , sex with students and an easy job with lots of time off Clayton .

"a large part of USA school system and education is staffed by P.C. flakes and nutjobs whose entire job is simply a push for paychecks , sex with students and an easy job with lots of time off"

This ladies and gentlemen, is the biggest problem you have in public school education right here in a single sentence. This man is a product of that education system, and you can see the effects of brainwashing, and hyper partisanship right there. Why didn't you report the teachers were having sex with you? Why did your parents stop this horror? YOU COULD HAVE BEEN SAVED!!!

----------------------------------------------- funny post and thanks for it , it makes me smile but here i some info for you DragonLady . --- The big list: Female teachers with students - WND - WND ---

 

[Marion Morrison]

Geez, the black ones were hopping all over the place in shop class with rubber band guns. It's just kids being kids. I had already done all that by 8th grade. I wanted to make a gun rack with the bandsaw.

8th grade and they're pew-pewing it around the shop tables.

We made little cannons in wood shop. It was my first lathe project. Natch we had lots of pretend cannon battles. Not a single trip to the principal's office.

Interesting where our values take us. My wood projects were first a candelabra and then a model of a grand piano. About two inches tall.

Sure enough I went on to make several more (real) musical instruments....

I b'lieve Pogo may have a flake of sugar in his blood.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

Home schooling. List your bill for supplies and payment for teaching services to your tax collector. The school then doesn't get the money for an absent person. If they don't cooperate, sue the school district for your services.

Oh, wait. The people don't have power any more. That belongs to the government who has to have money to support the schools so their chain of command can get kickbacks.

And the school needs to be sued for allowing teachers to leave their classrooms in the hands of the inmates.

The downside of home schooling is severe and hard to overcome when the kid tries to either get a job or go to college.
Read "Educated" by Tara Westover. Been on the NYT bestseller lists for months.
She was home schooled by her very strict LDS Fundamentalist parents.
She enrolled at BYU and had a miserable time orienting herself to the structure of life on campus.
Then was subject to further humiliation when she was devoid of societal and cultural things that we consider normal and pedantic.
Not to mention that she was completely ignorant of things that we take for granted, such as the Holocaust.
Parents don't necessarily make good educators.
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I don't know how that is. At least in my state, you have to take a state test to advance to the next grade. A lifelong friend of mine had his wife home school all three of their children. One is still too young to enter college but the other two got in with no problem and are still doing fine today.

 

[tycho1572]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

/——-/ For once we put our political differences aside and rally for your son.

I hope he learned something from this.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No public schools don't have to be everything to everyone. They were not intended to be that in any generation until the current one. They were expected to educate children--REALLY educate them--in all the basic subjects including proficiency in English, spelling, writing, math, history, geography, social studies, basic science, and if the budget allowed it, they also provided some specialized and advanced course for those with special aptitude or interest including the arts. The best schools prepared students for college and/or to succeed in the real world and that included encouraging them to use logic, reason, and employ critical thinking. Students were required to know certain facts included in their subjects--they might have to know that Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492 for instance--but they were not required to have a specific opinion about that. They were given the facts and encouraged to think about the deeper consequences and results that the facts indicated. The students who were able to think outside the box often were rewarded for that even if the teacher personally disagreed.

Schools should educate, not indoctrinate. To require them to be everything to everyone pretty much insures they won't be able to educate anywhere near as competently as they otherwise would.

A kid should be able to express or act out a harmless fantasy without political correctness tyranny knocking him/her down for it.

While I agree with your goals for education, I disagree that public schools are "indoctrinating" anyone. When the right wants to destroy a public institution, they start by casting it as some sort of liberal bastion out to destroy the country. The current vilification of the public school system is entirely reasonable, on the grounds that they are not providing a quality education, but not on the grounds that it's liberal indoctrination.

There has been a lot of criticism with the last few school shooters that these guys were giving off signals and everyone ignored them until too late. This thread is complaining that nobody can joke about school shootings at school any more. No they can't. Such jokes, all too often, turn out to be the precursor to actual shootings which are in no way funny.

So how do we know who to take seriously and who is "just joking"? How is the teacher to know?

When the left wants to destroy and or control a nation, they infiltrate education and control the minds of the children including what they are allowed to say, think, believe, understand as truth, demonstrate.

The teacher is supposed to be trained herself in logic, reason, and critical thinking and if she is, she knows the difference between a threat and kids just being kids. At the very most the 'offense' as described in the OP merited a simple warning that it violated the rules and, unless it was repeated, that should have been it. Given no other information, the school greatly overreacted. And I can believe that to be the case because of so many incidents of this type--many involving very young children--in which the school overreacted every bit as inappropriately.

It's sad to say this but in this day and age we really don't know who is joking and who isn't. Who is on the verge of snapping. School age children are holding "shooting drills" the way we held Fire Drills when I was growing up.

This is what is going in your schools now every day. Children are afraid to go to school because they fear their school is next. If you're are arming teachers, locking down schools, and having armed guards with semi-automatic weapons in the hallways, you're telling them their fears are justified.

I agree. Political correctness, hyper partisanship, what I call the 'snowflake' syndrome of being afraid or hyper senstive of anybody or any idea that is uncomfortable to you, and a society in which coarseness, rudeness, violence, cruelty, and villains are glorified has made us a hugely divided and more dangerous society than I would have ever though possible 40 or 50 years ago. Irresponsible parents now leave it up to the schools to feed, sometimes clothe, and look after every aspect of a child's well being and don't care what the kids are actually learning or not learning. And because most schools are simply not up the task either to rear or educate those kids properly, we all have suffered.

And the school puts more importance and reacts most forcefully on a kid simulating 'bang bang' with his finger than it puts on how that kid is being prepared to be a happy, successful, productive citizen.

So yes, with very few exceptions, I would not trust the schools with the well being or education of my children these days. I would home school.

No, what’s made us a divided society is conservatives attempting to propagate nonsense such as political correctness, snowflake syndrome, and being hyper-sensitive.

Conservatives are at complete liberty to express their bigotry, racism and hate – and those opposed to bigotry and racism are at liberty to denounce that hate.

And to denounce bigotry, racism, and hate is not to compel ‘political correctness’ or to behave like a ‘snowflake’; no one seeks to deny conservatives their right to express their views and opinions.

As to the alleged incident in the OP…

What most conservatives fail to understand is that schools are subject to unrealistic expectations and impossible demands – school administrators are constantly faced with lose/lose situations.

A student makes references to gun violence, the school does nothing, the student kills 20 students and teachers the next day, the school is blamed and pilloried.

A student makes references to gun violence, the school takes what it considers to be appropriate steps, the school is blamed and pilloried for being ‘politically correct,’ 'hyper-sensitive' and staffed by ‘snowflakes.’

And who do we have to blame for that, Republicans?

 

[MarathonMike]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

The kid that needs to be questions

Geez, the black ones were hopping all over the place in shop class with rubber band guns. It's just kids being kids. I had already done all that by 8th grade. I wanted to make a gun rack with the bandsaw.

8th grade and they're pew-pewing it around the shop tables.

We made little cannons in wood shop. It was my first lathe project. Natch we had lots of pretend cannon battles. Not a single trip to the principal's office.

Interesting where our values take us. My wood projects were first a candelabra and then a model of a grand piano. About two inches tall.

Sure enough I went on to make several more (real) musical instruments....

Hey I love my grand piano, but we're talking 8th grade wood shop here!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Two words:

Home School

5 words:

Would create nation of idiots

 

[Rustic]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

Home schooling. List your bill for supplies and payment for teaching services to your tax collector. The school then doesn't get the money for an absent person. If they don't cooperate, sue the school district for your services.

Oh, wait. The people don't have power any more. That belongs to the government who has to have money to support the schools so their chain of command can get kickbacks.

And the school needs to be sued for allowing teachers to leave their classrooms in the hands of the inmates.

The downside of home schooling is severe and hard to overcome when the kid tries to either get a job or go to college.
Read "Educated" by Tara Westover. Been on the NYT bestseller lists for months.
She was home schooled by her very strict LDS Fundamentalist parents.
She enrolled at BYU and had a miserable time orienting herself to the structure of life on campus.
Then was subject to further humiliation when she was devoid of societal and cultural things that we consider normal and pedantic.
Not to mention that she was completely ignorant of things that we take for granted, such as the Holocaust.
Parents don't necessarily make good educators.
.
.
.

Of course homeschooling isn’t for everybody, But don’t bash it you stupid ****** just because you don’t like it

 

[Rustic]

Two words:

Home School

5 words:

Would create nation of idiots

Actually homeschoolers far out pace their peers in the public schools in all aspects

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

I just joined this discussion and started at page 22, so I didn't have time to read the other 20 some pages and perhaps somebody already suggested this.

If you want to gain attention from national media, you need to make this a story in your local media. Email your local news stations, write an op-ed to your local papers, find local talk shows and get on the air with them.

Rush and others don't sit home every night trying to cover all media outlets and what's going on. They have crews of people to do that job, and when they find something interesting, only then do they forward it to the talk show hosts.

 

[Papageorgio]

So my son, a high school sophomore, is sitting in class and the teacher leaves the room for some reason.

The kids start goofing off and my son and his best friend start aiming their fingers at each other and going bang-bang. They play a lot of PUBG. They're kids. This is what kids do.

Some other ******* candyass motherfucking ***** soap bubble of a punk in the class tells the teacher when she comes back that my son was pretending to shoot a gun at HER (the teacher). The teacher wasn't even in the room!

My son is taken to security and interrogated, and several "witnesses" are interrogated.

The assistant principal calls my wife (because the ***** is terrified of me) and tells my wife my son is suspended, and he cannot return until he sees a ******* shrink.

I shit you not.

This insanity is right out of Kafka.


If there is anyone on Trump's staff, or Rush Limbaugh's show, or Fox News reading this, please PM me. I would like to make these ******* retards into a national embarrassment.

Thank you.

You got the country you deserved, congrats!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Actually homeschoolers far out peace their peers in the public schools in all aspects

That doesn't speak to the superiority of home schooling though,as the samples are not the same.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I would fight it if possible, I would refuse to take him to a psychiatrist, that could end up following him for a long time. Many years down the road if he gets in trouble for something, they can pull that up.

If that's the only way, I guess you have no choice, but if you can fight it, I would. No need for doctors to get involved in this.

 

[Rustic]

Actually homeschoolers far out peace their peers in the public schools in all aspects

That doesn't speak to the superiority of home schooling though,as the samples are not the same.

There’s nothing wrong with homeschooling

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Two words:

Home School

5 words:

Would create nation of idiots

Why is that, because only a certified teacher can teach?

I went to Catholic school most of my primary years, but ended up in a public high school. There were few professional teachers in Catholic school. Most of them were nuns. But looking back between the two, I would put my Catholic school against a public school any day of the week.

One of my tenants was home schooled. When another apartment opened up, her parents moved in. When another opened up, her sister moved in.

Both of these girls are in college today and doing great.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Actually homeschoolers far out peace their peers in the public schools in all aspects

That doesn't speak to the superiority of home schooling though,as the samples are not the same.

There’s nothing wrong with homeschooling

Over the whole? Yes there is. Plenty. It works for some, even works better for some. But would be a disaster over the whole.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why is that, because only a certified teacher can teach?

No,because curricula would suffer, amd the teachers simply would not be as good over the whole.

As it turns out, the average teacher actually is a better teacher than the average non teacher.