I seem to have forgotten the official story on why we must attack Iran.

[RetiredGySgt]

Lie? Look at history. Most of the wars the US has fought since World War II began under false pretenses.

quit lying

 

[gtopa1]

They don't exist in America.

Come on, we have elections bought by billionaires where a crazy person can lose the popular vote and still be president.

At least in Iran, they are required to get a majority of the vote.

Stalinist style elections then yes. Iran is just a stalinist regime dressed in robes.

Greg

 

[Ringo]

quit lying

The 1964 Tonkin Gulf incident, often cited as a classic example of a "false flag" or manufactured casus belli, involved two reported attacks on U.S. ships by North Vietnam. While an encounter occurred on August 2, 1964, a second, crucial attack on August 4 was determined to be based on faulty intelligence and misreported, providing the justification for the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution Wikipedia and massive U.S. escalation in Vietnam.
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On February 5, 2003, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell addressed the UN Security Council, presenting evidence—including a small vial of white powder—to argue that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction. This speech, which relied on flawed intelligence regarding nuclear and biological threats, was later labeled a "great intelligence failure" and a "blot" on his reputation.

This is a lie that sparked two major wars. Need more?

 

[JoeB131]

Stalinist style elections then yes. Iran is just a stalinist regime dressed in robes.

Well, no, not really.

In a Stalinist-style election, all the candidates would get 100% of the vote, and there would be only one candidate. Or, yeah, and merely NOT voting was considered an act of sedition.

Iran has competitive elections. Sometimes, no one gets 50%, and it has to go to a runoff. Turnout varies. (The last election, to pick a replacement for the guy who died in a helicopter crash, only had 46% turnout.)

Now, I'm not sugarcoating it. Only candidates endorsed by the Ayatollahs made it onto the ballot. (But then again, in the US, all candidates are approved by Wall Street, so there's that.)

But it's a damn site better than Saudi Arabia, where the Royals have absolute power, the people have no say, and they are sedating them with oil money. Works fine until the oil money runs out.

And this is why they are terrified of Iran. Unlike the corrupt monarchs and Ba'athist despots, this is a populist state.

 

[Ringo]

The real reasons for wars by pedophiles and pedophiles:

Clinton 1998:
the Lewinsky scandal, impeachment → bombing of Iraq.

Trump 2020:
impeachment over Ukraine, ties to Epstein → strike on Suleimani.

Trump 2026:
Epstein files (Trump mentioned >38,000 times) → US/Israel strike Iran...

 

[Ringo]

In a Stalinist-style election, all the candidates would get 100% of the vote, and there would be only one candidate

When talking about Stalin, one must talk about his time and circumstances.
All the so-called democracies, of which there were fewer than the fingers on one hand in Europe, and the fascist countries that prevailed, made it possible for the nazis to come to power in Germany, hoping that he would strike the USSR. And then they fell under Hitler with little or no resistance.

The Soviet leaders were wise men and knew that the Treaty of Versailles was a truce before the next war. And so they prepared for it. The country was a miliary camp. And thanks to this, europeans today do not speak german.
So, please, show a little respect for the heroic soviet people and their leader, comrade Stalin. Thank you.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

 

[dudmuck]

The real reasons for wars by pedophiles and pedophiles:

Clinton 1998:
the Lewinsky scandal, impeachment → bombing of Iraq.

Trump 2020:
impeachment over Ukraine, ties to Epstein → strike on Suleimani.

Trump 2026:
Epstein files (Trump mentioned >38,000 times) → US/Israel strike Iran...

 

[Roudy]

It's adorable when you try to pretend you care about people of color when bashing other people of color.

So there are 90,000,000 people in Iran. Did all 90 million of them rise up, or just a few thousand who were upset about inflation and encouraged by the Mossad?

Now, the actual situation is more complex, in that Iran is a multi-ethnic state, but for purposes of this discussion, Iran has elections, and the results of those elections are not pre-determined.

Certainly better than a corrupt monarchy than the Saudis, who murder dissidents while the royals go off to Europe to have sex with hookers.

A few thousand Iranians rose up? Ha ha ha. More like millions. You’re just a Islamo terrorist loving liar

 

[Roudy]

Well, no, not really.

In a Stalinist-style election, all the candidates would get 100% of the vote, and there would be only one candidate. Or, yeah, and merely NOT voting was considered an act of sedition.

Iran has competitive elections. Sometimes, no one gets 50%, and it has to go to a runoff. Turnout varies. (The last election, to pick a replacement for the guy who died in a helicopter crash, only had 46% turnout.)

Now, I'm not sugarcoating it. Only candidates endorsed by the Ayatollahs made it onto the ballot. (But then again, in the US, all candidates are approved by Wall Street, so there's that.)

But it's a damn site better than Saudi Arabia, where the Royals have absolute power, the people have no say, and they are sedating them with oil money. Works fine until the oil money runs out.

And this is why they are terrified of Iran. Unlike the corrupt monarchs and Ba'athist despots, this is a populist state.

What matters is what Iranians themselves think of the regime, not what some IslamoNazi loving propagandist like you says.

 

[Roudy]

Yeah da Jooooos did 9-11. What a lunatic.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

After a collapse in the basement of one of the houses in Tel Aviv, a passage to an ancient tomb was discovered, which archaeologists dated as “very ancient, about 5,000 years old.”
A mysterious plaque was found in it with the text
“Iran is less than four weeks away from creating nuclear weapons!”

What more proof do you need?!

 

[Ringo]

 

[Ringo]

 

[JoeB131]

When talking about Stalin, one must talk about his time and circumstances.
All the so-called democracies, of which there were fewer than the fingers on one hand in Europe, and the fascist countries that prevailed, made it possible for the nazis to come to power in Germany, hoping that he would strike the USSR. And then they fell under Hitler with little or no resistance.

The Soviet leaders were wise men and knew that the Treaty of Versailles was a truce before the next war. And so they prepared for it. The country was a miliary camp. And thanks to this, europeans today do not speak german.
So, please, show a little respect for the heroic soviet people and their leader, comrade Stalin. Thank you.

Um, yeah, guy. Stalin was so ready for the war that Hitler was literally at the gates of Moscow within six months of the war starting.

Stalin's war preparations were awful, and the only thing that saved the USSR was that it stretched across 11 time zones.

 

[Roudy]

And I’m Robinson Crusoe! Here, I found it on the “internets”….

 

[Ringo]

And if Israel tries to develop nuclear weapons, will the US bomb it too?

 

[Roudy]

Why would us be bombing a close ally?