I saw a few turninpoint USA videos

[Mortimer]

My conclusion Kirk was a charismatic young men and his views are just a bit 'old fashioned' but not hateful

Its terrible he was killed

RIP Charlie

 

[Dante]

My conclusion Kirk was a charismatic young men and his views are just a bit 'old fashioned' but not hateful

Its terrible he was killed

RIP Charlie

So you're gay or him?

 

[Bootstraps]

I still haven't seen a whole lot of his stuff yet but nothing I've seen has shown him to be hateful. I've seen people make claims about comments without full context, but nothing to actually back up their claims either. People hated him because he had the audacity to challenge you to think. Democrats hate that. They just want blind obedience.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

So you're gay or him?

You're just trolling

 

[Cassandro]

Is Ben Shapiro next?

 

[Rawley]

I still haven't seen a whole lot of his stuff yet but nothing I've seen has shown him to be hateful. I've seen people make claims about comments without full context, but nothing to actually back up their claims either. People hated him because he had the audacity to challenge you to think. Democrats hate that. They just want blind obedience.

Here's a good one with a black kid at Texas A&M discussing DEI. Starts at 22:50.

 

[Bootstraps]

Here's a good one with a black kid at Texas A&M discussing DEI. Starts at 22:50.

Kid kept wanting to use the word culture but didn't know how to argue any points. Soundes more like he was told a bunch of stuff and just believed it. I won't pretend and deny that there isn't some disparity between races, but almost everyone wants to elevate everyone as a whole, not hold anyone back. We want people to be successful in their lives but if you don't make a genuine effort, you're not going to. Didn't see anything wrong with what Kirk said there. Unfortunately I don't think that kid walked away having learned anything.

 

[Rawley]

Kid kept wanting to use the word culture but didn't know how to argue any points.

Yes, "culture" was his fall back.

Soundes more like he was told a bunch of stuff and just believed it. I won't pretend and deny that there isn't some disparity between races, but almost everyone wants to elevate everyone as a whole, not hold anyone back. We want people to be successful in their lives but if you don't make a genuine effort, you're not going to. Didn't see anything wrong with what Kirk said there. Unfortunately I don't think that kid walked away having learned anything.

I disagree, I think the kid learned a lot. It's clear no one has challenged his opinions in such systematic, methodical, step by step way. Certainly none of his professors.

 

[Bootstraps]

Yes, "culture" was his fall back.

I disagree, I think the kid learned a lot. It's clear no one has challenged his opinions in such systematic, methodical, step by step way. Certainly none of his professors.

Seems obvious his professors and teachers propagated those beliefs. The reason I don't think he learned anything is because he wasn't interested in learning. He was doing what he accused Kirk of doing, waiting to respond instead of listening. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, great. I'll be happy for it. But it didn't appear to take anything of use away from that conversation. Which I get to a degree. We don't like having our beliefs challenged because because if we're wrong about that, what else are we wrong about? Nobody likes having their worldview shaken like that. He didn't want to have a conversation with Kirk though, he just wanted to try and school him instead.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

My conclusion Kirk was a charismatic young men and his views are just a bit 'old fashioned' but not hateful

Its terrible he was killed

RIP Charlie

If "old fashioned" means not insane - then I am old fashioned too.

 

[Marener]

Dude was a religious fundamentalist and only getting more extreme in his view points.

 

[Rawley]

Seems obvious his professors and teachers propagated those beliefs. The reason I don't think he learned anything is because he wasn't interested in learning. He was doing what he accused Kirk of doing, waiting to respond instead of listening. If I'm wrong I'm wrong, great. I'll be happy for it. But it didn't appear to take anything of use away from that conversation. Which I get to a degree. We don't like having our beliefs challenged because because if we're wrong about that, what else are we wrong about? Nobody likes having their worldview shaken like that. He didn't want to have a conversation with Kirk though, he just wanted to try and school him instead.

The kid seemed intelligent, so we can hope he learned something from the experience. The explosive growth of Turning Point Chapters on college campuses give me hope. One bright spot out of this tragic event:

The organization has "received over 32,000 inquiries in the last 48-hours to start new campus chapters," Turning Point spokesperson Andrew Kolvet, who is also executive producer of "The Charlie Kirk Show," said in a post on X on Sunday.

Charlie Kirk: Turning Point USA flooded with requests to start new chapters

Kirk was fatally shot while speaking at Utah Valley University on September 10.

www.newsweek.com

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

My conclusion Kirk was a charismatic young men and his views are just a bit 'old fashioned' but not hateful

Its terrible he was killed

RIP Charlie

Which views, precisely, were ‘old fashioned’?
There are many POV that are considered ‘old fashioned’ but actually come about as a result of current experience.
Prime examples are depleted family structure and drug culture. The past sixty years have clearly demonstrated how those trends were so wrong and disastrous.
And democrats still endorse drug use and fatherlessness. Those are what have become truly old fashioned to those of us who pay attention.

 

[JohnDB]

Charlie Kirk was an innocent....there can be no doubt about it when investigated thoroughly.

But yet, people have been enraged with him due to his logic.

People form these "belief bubbles". Spheres of people and concepts that regurgitate what they want to be true....and then with arrogance and too much pride they believe their thoughts are correct....no one can dispute their beliefs they claim are "facts".

However, pop one of those bubbles and the fury comes out. You have literally destroyed the pillars of their world. They would rather believe lies than the truth.

Your showing them the truth will not change them....its only embarrassing them to be seen as absolutely ridiculous instead of respectable. That's why they are soooooo angry.

But the problem exists with physics, history, geology, geography, anthropology and the rest of the sciences. (Which is why RFK is having such a difficult time) Gravity still works. Biology is still biology. These things dont change just because you want them to.

And that's what Charlie explained to people. And they murdered him because their lies were exposed.

 

[0311]

My conclusion Kirk was a charismatic young men and his views are just a bit 'old fashioned' but not hateful

Its terrible he was killed

RIP Charlie

He was a ******* racist asshole and fascist **** him.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

Dude was a religious fundamentalist and only getting more extreme in his view points.

What is the worst thing he says?

 

[Mortimer]

Which views, precisely, were ‘old fashioned’?
There are many POV that are considered ‘old fashioned’ but actually come about as a result of current experience.
Prime examples are depleted family structure and drug culture. The past sixty years have clearly demonstrated how those trends were so wrong and disastrous.
And democrats still endorse drug use and fatherlessness. Those are what have become truly old fashioned to those of us who pay attention.

For example that women do not work
But im not saying its bad or hateful old fashioned is not bad

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

For example that women do not work
But im not saying its bad or hateful old fashioned is not bad

Where did Kirk call for women to not work? Likely an out-of-context quote.

 

[Mortimer]

Where did Kirk call for women to not work? Likely an out-of-context quote.

He did not want to make it illegal or force them but he said that its better for women to raise kids and the man is the provider protector and leader that its God given

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

He did not want to make it illegal or force them but he said that its better for women to raise kids and the man is the provider protector and leader that its God given

I think that’s less old fashioned and more about recognizing nature.
Democrats often think they’re beyond nature and make comments like that out to sound worse than they are. Like democrats refuse to acknowledge that women and men have different sexuality traits.