I S I S Captures Route Irish. This Contradicts Dempsey Saying Iraq Under Control.

[NYcarbineer]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

You're such an asshole. I suppose you think you're impressing people with the "in-the-know" nickname of an Iraqi highway. You're not. You seem to be referring to a statement made by the Army Chief of Staff. It's kind of customary around here to give a quote or link when the quote is central to the OP. When did he make that statement, where?

Doesn't agree with what he said in his visit to Iraq this weekend, From NBC;

"BAGHDAD — The United States' top military officer told American troops on a surprise visit to Baghdad on Saturday that the momentum in the battle with ISIS was "starting to turn", but predicted a drawn-out campaign lasting several years. General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff..."

Like somebody already said, instead of playing your stupid "I'm so smart" game you should have given us something to go on. "Would it kill you to give us a link"

But.......she's really cool. She watched a movie about "Route Irish" a while back. She's, as a result, in the loop. She's very cool.

She seems to emulate characters from another movie, the new "Dumb and Dumber". Definitely the coolest Dumbster around.

Says the dumb fuck that doesn't even know what this topic is about.

LMAO.

Put this on your to-do list:

I will engage in a debate on USMB without throwing a mental hissy fit.

 

[EconChick]

EconChic is awesome. In between semesters at the most prestigious American Universities....she did covert tours in Iraq........single handedly defeating alQueda. She knows "Route Irish" like the back of her hand.

Oh look, it's one of the Gruberfucks that got trounced in the election and whose predictions - every last one of them - were proven to have ZERO success.

How ya doing, Loser? You back to pretending you know what the adults are talking about again?

It's called Iraq. You know...a country in the Middle East. The one your hero said he'd successfully stabilized. ISIS has Irish now, dumbass. Now sit there in your seat till I'm ready to school your dumbass a few days from now.

 

[Siete]

EconChic is awesome. In between semesters at the most prestigious American Universities....she did covert tours in Iraq........single handedly defeating alQueda. She knows "Route Irish" like the back of her hand.

aren't you forgetting forming focus groups to support mid eastern women from abuse?

or was that another awesome RW magician chick ?

 

[EconChick]

airport road in Baghdad


now that americans aren't using it anymore, rename it drone freeway

Americans don't use it???

Where do they dig you dumbass libs up from, LMAO. I've never seen such a large cluster of idiot libs as I have on this board.

You might wanna rethink that post, Bullwinkle.

 

[EconChick]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Would it kill you post a link?

Do you think all information comes off the internet?

Those who rely only on the internet are the kind of dummies that predicted Democrats were going to keep the Senate.

But when the link shows up, I'll be happy to post it.

You predicted the stock market would collapse when the Fed ended QE, so shut the fuck up grandma.

There is no news story anywhere on what you're 'reporting'.

Shut the fuck up, loser.

I trounced your Socialist ass on every thread and told ya your ass would be kicked from here to kingdom come in the election.

And it was.

But by all means, plz keep telling people you dumb ass liberals won that election.


Show me where I said the stock market would collapse the day after QE ended, dumbass. You can't. Because that's not what I said. You have to have an IQ above 30 to grasp what I said.

Now. Idiot. Back to topic. How can you NOT know Irish was taken by ISIS if you know the first thing about Iraq?

It's because you don't know shit. You don't even know its significance. That's why it's fun reporting it before you have a chance to try to RESEARCH is on the internet, to try to pretend you know what the fuck it is.

DUMBASS.

Why do you think Fakey and FOO haven't responded yet? They don't want to reveal what useless, know-nothing idiots thy are.

If you had been to Iraq, you'd be VERY aware of what Irish is. You'd know that losing it to ISIS is significant.

So I'll wait and see how many days it takes for you lying GRUBERFUCKS to catch up to the facts on the ground. Because as we already know...........you don't know shit about them.

I am obligated to take your word for something to just the same degree you're obligated to take my word for something.

Fair enough?

I trounced you on everything that was debated leading up to the election. Now I'll school you even MORE about Iraq.

Now sit down and shut up, GRUBER FUCK.

 

[EconChick]

Great. 5 pages of idiot libs (except for the few genius conservatives) revealing how ignorant they continue to be about Obama's Iraq strategy. And except for Old School. He can manage to actually engage in an intellectual discussion, unlike you uninformed progressives.

 

[Siete]

airport road in Baghdad


now that americans aren't using it anymore, rename it drone freeway

Americans don't use it???

Where do they dig you dumbass libs up from, LMAO. I've never seen such a large cluster of idiot libs as I have on this board.

You might wanna rethink that post, Bullwinkle.

American combat troops don't use the Irish Olive Oil ..

 

[LoneLaugher]

EconChic is awesome. In between semesters at the most prestigious American Universities....she did covert tours in Iraq........single handedly defeating alQueda. She knows "Route Irish" like the back of her hand.

Oh look, it's one of the Gruberfucks that got trounced in the election and whose predictions - every last one of them - were proven to have ZERO success.

How ya doing, Loser? You back to pretending you know what the adults are talking about again?

It's called Iraq. You know...a country in the Middle East. The one your hero said he'd successfully stabilized. ISIS has Irish now, dumbass. Now sit there in your seat till I'm ready to school your dumbass a few days from now.

What prediction? Name one.

 

[EconChick]

airport road in Baghdad


now that americans aren't using it anymore, rename it drone freeway

Americans don't use it???

Where do they dig you dumbass libs up from, LMAO. I've never seen such a large cluster of idiot libs as I have on this board.

You might wanna rethink that post, Bullwinkle.

American combat troops don't use the Irish Olive Oil ..

Your stupidity knows no bounds. You think no Americans being sent there use it?

Of course you would think that.

MORON.

 

[EconChick]

EconChic is awesome. In between semesters at the most prestigious American Universities....she did covert tours in Iraq........single handedly defeating alQueda. She knows "Route Irish" like the back of her hand.

Oh look, it's one of the Gruberfucks that got trounced in the election and whose predictions - every last one of them - were proven to have ZERO success.

How ya doing, Loser? You back to pretending you know what the adults are talking about again?

It's called Iraq. You know...a country in the Middle East. The one your hero said he'd successfully stabilized. ISIS has Irish now, dumbass. Now sit there in your seat till I'm ready to school your dumbass a few days from now.

What prediction? Name one.

All of them. Especially any that had to do with Iraq.

Now sit down and shut the fuck up, princess.

But I command you to keep bumping this thread.

 

[LoneLaugher]

EconChic is awesome. In between semesters at the most prestigious American Universities....she did covert tours in Iraq........single handedly defeating alQueda. She knows "Route Irish" like the back of her hand.

Oh look, it's one of the Gruberfucks that got trounced in the election and whose predictions - every last one of them - were proven to have ZERO success.

How ya doing, Loser? You back to pretending you know what the adults are talking about again?

It's called Iraq. You know...a country in the Middle East. The one your hero said he'd successfully stabilized. ISIS has Irish now, dumbass. Now sit there in your seat till I'm ready to school your dumbass a few days from now.

What prediction? Name one.

All of them. Especially any that had to do with Iraq.

Now sit down and shut the fuck up, princess.

But I command you to keep bumping this thread.

Never made one. You lying.....or you stupid?

 

[Moonglow]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Being part Irish American I am offended that you use the Irish for such a term....

 

[LoneLaugher]

There must be a picture of EconChic standing on "Route Irish" somewhere. Let's see it.

 

[Moonglow]

But I thought Gen. Obama was in charge of the strategic bombing. What could possibly have gone wrong?

Why yes, the strategic bombing board is in his office and he moves little replicas 1/100th in actual size....

 

[Moonglow]

There must be a picture of EconChic standing on "Route Irish" somewhere. Let's see it.

With a Leprechaun...

 

[Camp]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

 

[NYcarbineer]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

Did ISIS capture the road from the Airport to the Green Zone or not? What is this thread about? Is it about something? If ISIS captured the road it would mean they are at the gates of the airport and the Green Zone. Do you know the definition of the word capture?

She's a pathological liar. A textbook case. Have you ever known one? I have. Worked with a guy once who was. He was a running joke with everyone there.

 

[SmedlyButler]

So Jakey and NotFooled, do you know what Route Irish is?

Do you know the significance of ISIS capturing it?

I'll let you read up and figure out why you continue to be wrong about Obama's strategy in Iraq.

You're such an asshole. I suppose you think you're impressing people with the "in-the-know" nickname of an Iraqi highway. You're not. You seem to be referring to a statement made by the Army Chief of Staff. It's kind of customary around here to give a quote or link when the quote is central to the OP. When did he make that statement, where?

Doesn't agree with what he said in his visit to Iraq this weekend, From NBC;

"BAGHDAD — The United States' top military officer told American troops on a surprise visit to Baghdad on Saturday that the momentum in the battle with ISIS was "starting to turn", but predicted a drawn-out campaign lasting several years. General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff..."

Like somebody already said, instead of playing your stupid "I'm so smart" game you should have given us something to go on. "Would it kill you to give us a link"

Dude, thanks for stepping into my trap.

I was really only setting the trap for the two biggest liberal idiots that propagandize this topic - Fakey and Foo - but hey, if I caught a few other animals in the snare, so be it.

Those two morons don't think our troops on the ground "have boots on the ground" or are in harms way and that they lay by the poolside sipping martinis. They also buy all the bullshit politician Dempsey dishes out.

I even addressed the OP to them. But if you wanna jump in and reveal your clown creds too, go for it.

As for referring to a statement - LMAO, moron. No, unlike morons like you that run your mouth about Iraq, I spent a lot of time going up and down that road. Now fuck off.

Lord you are one dumb Dudess with one hell of an engorged ego. Trap? That's hilarious, the only trap I see is the web of lies you've ensnared yourself in. You're refusal to give us a Dempsey quote to back up your OP means only one thing to me, as lots of others have concluded, you're a lying candy-assed fool as well.
If you truly were in Iraq, which is still up in the air, thanks for your service, it's just too bad you didn't learn anything while you were there. By the level of intelligence you display I can maybe see you as some brainwashed apparatchik for Paul Bremer, Potentate of the ruinously inept administration that, aside from the original blunder of going to war in the first place, is most responsible for this ongoing horror. It's hard to picture someone as ditto-headed as you being a member of the military whose smarter and more honest leaders (the majority I believe) have acknowledged the mistakes made and taken steps so that such a "fiasco" or "quagmire" (I thought we'd learned these lessons in Vietnam) won't happen again. This honest self-appraisal was demonstrated a couple of years ago in a paper discussed in "Stars and Stripes", here. I'm going to c&p a good chunk of it but it really is worth a full read. I think they give a link to the report itself. You seem to want everybody to think Iraq was a big success before Obama. This assessment by the Joint Chiefs gives the lie to that notion. It also seethes underneath with an intense disgust for civilians like Bremer (and you? hey I don't know) whose terrible mis-steps led to driving the Iraqi military underground and to leadership roles in ISIS today. Suck up your misplaced bravado and jingoism and give this a read;

"When President Obama announced in Aug. 2010 the end of U.S. combat operations in Iraq, he complimented the soldiers who had served there for completing “every mission they were given.” But some of military’s most senior officers, in a little-noticed report this spring, rendered a harsher account of their work that highlights repeated missteps and failures over the past decade, in both Iraq and Afghanistan.
There was a “failure to recognize, acknowledge and accurately define” the environment in which the conflicts occurred, leading to a “mismatch between forces, capabilities, missions, and goals,” says the assessment from the Pentagon’s Joint Staff. The efforts were marked by a “failure to adequately plan and resource strategic and operational” shifts from one phase of the conflicts to the next.
From the outset, U.S. forces were poorly prepared for peacekeeping and had not adequately planned for the unexepected. In the first half of the decade, “strategic leadership repeatedly failed,” and as a result, U.S. military training, policies, doctrine and equipment were ill-suited to the tasks that troops actually faced in Iraq and Afghanistan.
These self-critical conclusions appear in the first volume of a draft report titled “Decade of War” — part of a multi-volume survey of “enduring lessons” from the past ten years of conflict. When completed, “it will be used by senior leaders” to develop U.S. military forces for the future, according to Navy Lt. Cmdr. Cindy Fields, a Joint Staff spokeswoman.
Fields said the 36-page, May 2012 report remains an internal document and is not available to the public, but a copy was posted Thursday on the website of a trade publication called "Inside the Pentagon" (accessible only to regular or trial subscribers).
Its criticisms are largely familiar to anyone who closely followed the two wars’ fitful progress or who read author Thomas Ricks’ seminal, bestselling 2006 account of the U.S. military’s early failings in Iraq, bluntly titled “Fiasco.” An internal Army War College assessment in 2005 cited in Ricks’ book reaches similar conclusions.
But this new retrospective may be more significant because it was prepared by the Pentagon directorate responsible for developing military educational curricula, war-fighting doctrine, and training regimes for all the services. What the report makes clear is that senior officers have fully accepted the judgment by so many others that their prosecution of the wars — at a direct cost to the federal budget of more than a trillion dollars — was in some ways inept.
While it does not name those responsible, the assessment points fingers in unmistakable directions. It says that the early dismantling of Iraq’s security forces and firing of mid-level government officials — decisions made by Ambassador Paul Bremer with broad support in the Bush administration — crippled Iraq’s ability to govern itself and fueled the insurgency, creating social chaos that lasted for years. The task of creating a new police and military force was a “severe burden” that neither U.S. troops nor civilian agencies were prepared to undertake.
The early signs of the insurgency, the report says, were ignored. Intelligence failures were rife, with early shortages of key analysts and interpreters, remotely-piloted aircraft, and electronic eavesdroppers. What intelligence was gathered was sometimes overclassified, with the result that it failed to reach those who needed it. And units were not taught in advance what local populations were really like; instead, they depended on what the military calls “discovery learning” — otherwise known as flying by the seat of one’s pants — with lessons not systematically passed along to units rotated in as replacements.
By 2005, two years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, the military side of the U.S. effort and the civilian aid side were pursuing different missions with different goals, leading to wasted expenditures and missed opportunities, the report states. And “the image of the U.S. was frequently tarnished by tactical actions that contradicted U.S. values or strategy,” ranging from the scandal at Abu Ghraib to paying inadequate heed at the outset to harmful images of civilian casualties.
The report’s toughest criticism is leveled at the mishandling and undermanning by military commanders and political officials of key “transition” moments in the two wars — such as the end of major combat operations in 2003, the renewal of Iraqi self-governance in 2004-2005, and NATO’s takeover in 2006 of military operations in Afghanistan.
“Failure to adequately plan and resource strategic and operational transitions endangered accomplishment of the overall mission” in the first half of the decade, the account says, although the military did better later. “Non-combat skills, to include civil affairs, had not been adequately rehearsed.” In Afghanistan, “the planning assumed that the chief duty” of international troops after 2006 would be reconstruction and humanitarian aid — an assumption that turned out to be grotesquely wrong.
The reason, the report says, was that military planning was based on “U.S. expectations instead of those consistent with the host nation and mission,” a nice way of describing wishful thinking rather than realism. “For example,” the report notes, “ the planned end-state for Afghanistan was envisioned to be a strong central government despite no record of such a government in its history and lack of broad popular support for that system of governance.”
Without using his name, the report says that Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, who directed the V Corps that assumed control in Iraq after major combat ceased, was deployed without training in reconstruction and stabilization. “His staff was not manned, equipped, nor resourced to accept these responsibilities,” the chronicle explains.
U.S. military forces were also not equipped “to combat adaptive insurgencies” in both countries, the report says. While special forces units had some of the proper skills, they poorly coordinated their operations with regular forces. They did not share routinely share intelligence, at least at the outset, and regular troops in Afghanistan complained until 2008 that the special forces’ actions often caused social disruptions that others had to contain.
The civilian side of the Iraq effort, which Bremer ran, “often lacked the necessary expertise and resources,” operated independently, and lacked an overarching strategy — a problem the report says was not really fixed until 2007.
The report credits U.S. forces with eventually overcoming “the challenge of inadequate planning and preparation … by widespread and successful adaptation at all levels” — partly at the urging of commanders such as Gen. David Petraeus. But the assessment notes that efforts to rush newly-developed equipment to the wars impeded proper training, and caused late discovery of vulnerabilities and reliabiity or maintenance problems.
The report summarizes all of these problems in eleven “overarching lessons” to be drawn from the decade of war. But it warns that even though the U.S. military has developed what the report calls “an increasingly expeditionary mindset,” a better coordination of U.S. military and civilian efforts has yet to be mandated by “U.S. law or policy.”

Hmmm...I couldn't decide what to leave out so I C&P'd the whole thing, oh well.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Dempsey is a senile person. You have no chance with such a soldier, retire him.

Or is he saying what the far left Obama is telling him to say in order to keep his job..

Over a hundreds generals have been fired under Obama, so we know this sadly true.

 

[AceRothstein]

So 17 hours since the OP was posted and not one article about this anywhere on the internet.