I Never Really Understood The Left's Obsession With Saving The Planet

[The Sage of Main Street]

First, we have EV's to help us save the planet. Now, recharging them takes electricity and most all electricity pollutes the planet so just charging them is bad for the planet. Then we the batteries themselves:

Battery life has been one of the most pressing issues facing Tesla and the electric vehicle (EV) market as a whole. Lithium-ion batteries, which power EVs, are notoriously difficult and costly to manufacture due to the fact that they necessitate the mining of materials such as lithium, cobalt, and nickel.

Mining these materials comes with a considerable negative environmental impact, as it requires the use of dirty energy, utilizes massive amounts of water, and contributes heavily to land degradation.

Lithium-ion batteries are also difficult to recycle

Tesla shares a surprising revelation about how long the battery lasts in some of its most popular car models

Tesla has struggled throughout its existence to keep up with the demand for the product.

www.yahoo.com

Next we have solar panels.

Solar Panels Are Starting to Die, Leaving Behind Toxic Trash

Photovoltaic panels are a boon for clean energy but are tricky to recycle. As the oldest ones expire, get ready for a solar e-waste glut.

www.wired.com

Then we move on to nuclear power

6 reasons why nuclear energy is not the way to a green and peaceful world - Greenpeace International

With the costs and efficiency of renewable energy solutions improving year on year, and the effects of our rapidly changing climate accelerating across the globe, we need to take an honest look at some of the myths being perpetuated by the nuclear industry and its supporters. Here are six...

www.greenpeace.org

Those, and wind energy are addressed in the following link:

Green Technologies Cause Massive Waste and Pollution

Electric vehicle batteries, solar panels, and wind turbines result in a massive amount of waste and pollution. China is responsible…

www.instituteforenergyresearch.org

The Neo-Communists Don't Want to "Save the Planet"; They Want to Own the Planet

 

[Crick]

The American ecology movement started in 1962 when Rachel Carson wrote a book titled Silent Spring, which was about declining bird populations due to DDT. Even so, no scientific peer reviewed study has ever replicated any case of negative human health impacts from DDT

That is some bullshit.

DDT, epigenetic harm, and transgenerational environmental justice - Environmental Health

Although the environmentally harmful effects of widespread dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT) use became well-known following Rachel Carson’s Silent Spring (1962), its human health effects have more recently become clearer. A ban on the use of DDT has been in place for over 30 years, but...

ehjournal.biomedcentral.com

Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT): ubiquity, persistence, and risks.

Due to uncontrolled use for several decades, dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT), probably the best known and most useful insecticide in the world, has damaged wildlife and might have negative effects on human health. This review gives a brief history ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Pine River Statement: Human Health Consequences of DDT Use

Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane (DDT) was used worldwide until the 1970s, when concerns about its toxic effects, its environmental persistence, and its concentration in the food supply led to use restrictions and prohibitions. In 2001, more than 100 countries ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Consequences of DDT Exposure Could Last Generations

Scientists found health effects in grandchildren of women exposed to the pesticide

www.scientificamerican.com

https://www.annualreviews.org/doi/10.1146/annurev.publhealth.18.1.211

The spraying of DDT decreased the cases of malaria from 100 million a year in 1953 to 150,000 by 1966, and is estimated to have saved 500 million lives from malaria by 1970. Deaths due to malaria, which were nearly a million a year in the 1940s, decreased to about 1,500 a year in 1966.

True. But see above.

By 1997, UNDP’s Human Development Report 2000 estimated there were about 2.6 million malaria cases throughout the world. Today there's a global malaria burden of 300 to 500 million cases and 1 to 2.5 million deaths annually, mostly among young children. And of course, there are other mosquito-borne diseases such as the Zika virus, West Nile virus, and the St. Louis encephalitis.

Mosquitoes are currently controlled with organophosphates, pyrethrins and pyrethroids. DDT's longevity is extrordinary. A 2022 study looking at correlation between DDT exposure and kidney disease found that despite it having been banned in the US for the last 51 years, the compound was present in the blood serum of 99.8% of the 62,000 people studied National temporal trend for organophosphate pesticide DDT exposure and associations with chronic kidney disease using age-adapted eGFR model - PubMed

Once again, we see the unintended consequences of liberal hoaxes.

You think DDT was a liberal hoax? I think you should get in line behind poster EMH and get some much-needed psychiatric treatment.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

First, we have EV's to help us save the planet. Now, recharging them takes electricity and most all electricity pollutes the planet so just charging them is bad for the planet. Then we the batteries themselves:

Battery life has been one of the most pressing issues facing Tesla and the electric vehicle (EV) market as a whole. Lithium-ion batteries, which power EVs, are notoriously difficult and costly to manufacture due to the fact that they necessitate the mining of materials such as lithium, cobalt, and nickel.

Mining these materials comes with a considerable negative environmental impact, as it requires the use of dirty energy, utilizes massive amounts of water, and contributes heavily to land degradation.

Lithium-ion batteries are also difficult to recycle

Tesla shares a surprising revelation about how long the battery lasts in some of its most popular car models

Tesla has struggled throughout its existence to keep up with the demand for the product.

www.yahoo.com

Next we have solar panels.

Solar Panels Are Starting to Die, Leaving Behind Toxic Trash

Photovoltaic panels are a boon for clean energy but are tricky to recycle. As the oldest ones expire, get ready for a solar e-waste glut.

www.wired.com

Then we move on to nuclear power

6 reasons why nuclear energy is not the way to a green and peaceful world - Greenpeace International

With the costs and efficiency of renewable energy solutions improving year on year, and the effects of our rapidly changing climate accelerating across the globe, we need to take an honest look at some of the myths being perpetuated by the nuclear industry and its supporters. Here are six...

www.greenpeace.org

Those, and wind energy are addressed in the following link:

Green Technologies Cause Massive Waste and Pollution

Electric vehicle batteries, solar panels, and wind turbines result in a massive amount of waste and pollution. China is responsible…

www.instituteforenergyresearch.org

It's because the left is more interested in science and listens to scientists more.

So they more understand the consequences of not taking care of the planet.

Also they are more empathetic than right wingers, so they care more about the consequences to humans.

I could have saved you a lot of time and a worthless thread.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Gas powered pickup trucks are still the biggest sellers in America.
Looking into used 5.7 Toyota Tundras to replace my aging Hemi Jeep.
I need power for towing long distance and hauling tools for work. An EV doesn't work for my long commutes and visits to sparsly populated areas.
If an EV works for some folks, great.
Just don't live under the delusion you are actually helping the Earth by driving a vehicle that still takes a massive amount of toxic resources to build.

The only way to really reduce your footprint is to go Amish.

"Carbon Footprint" Is as Big a Myth as Bigfoot

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"Carbon Footprint" Is as Big a Myth as Bigfoot

Actually, it's a defined and measurable quantity.

 

[justoffal]

Any sustainable energy source saves the planet. Wind, solar, nuclear. They all save the planet.

All of them except for nuclear are far more costly to the planet than fossil fuels ever was. The solution is worse than the problem l.

 

[justoffal]

Gas powered pickup trucks are still the biggest sellers in America.
Looking into used 5.7 Toyota Tundras to replace my aging Hemi Jeep.
I need power for towing long distance and hauling tools for work. An EV doesn't work for my long commutes and visits to sparsly populated areas.
If an EV works for some folks, great.
Just don't live under the delusion you are actually helping the Earth by driving a vehicle that still takes a massive amount of toxic resources to build.

The only way to really reduce your footprint is to go Amish.

Amish use horses and Oxen, they raise cows and sheep...they all fart out huge amounts of methane. Methane is 80 times more WARMISH than CO2....
There's no way to avoid carbon footprints....

 

[Crick]

Gas powered pickup trucks are still the biggest sellers in America.

The growth of EVs has been phenomenal.

Looking into used 5.7 Toyota Tundras to replace my aging Hemi Jeep.

So you don't care about $4 gas OR greenhouse gas emissions. Got it.

I need power for towing long distance and hauling tools for work. An EV doesn't work for my long commutes and visits to sparsly populated areas.

What if it had a 750 mile range and charged in ten minutes? No ICE truck is ever going to beat an electric for low end torque.

If an EV works for some folks, great.
Just don't live under the delusion you are actually helping the Earth by driving a vehicle that still takes a massive amount of toxic resources to build.

Do you think no mining was required to acquire the materials in that Tundra? And I don't see any mention of CO2 or global warming.

The only way to really reduce your footprint is to go Amish.

Driving an EV or someday, a fuel cell, will dramatically reduce your carbon footprint.

 

[petro]

The growth of EVs has been phenomenal.

So you don't care about $4 gas OR greenhouse gas emissions. Got it.

What if it had a 750 mile range and charged in ten minutes? No ICE truck is ever going to beat an electric for low end torque.

Do you think no mining was required to acquire the materials in that Tundra? And I don't see any mention of CO2 or global warming.

Driving an EV or someday, a fuel cell, will dramatically reduce your carbon footprint.

Not doing it.
Looking for a 5.7 powered Tundra.
Fuck EV's.

 

[Flash]

First, we have EV's to help us save the planet. Now, recharging them takes electricity and most all electricity pollutes the planet so just charging them is bad for the planet. Then we the batteries themselves:

Battery life has been one of the most pressing issues facing Tesla and the electric vehicle (EV) market as a whole. Lithium-ion batteries, which power EVs, are notoriously difficult and costly to manufacture due to the fact that they necessitate the mining of materials such as lithium, cobalt, and nickel.

Mining these materials comes with a considerable negative environmental impact, as it requires the use of dirty energy, utilizes massive amounts of water, and contributes heavily to land degradation.

Lithium-ion batteries are also difficult to recycle

Tesla shares a surprising revelation about how long the battery lasts in some of its most popular car models

Tesla has struggled throughout its existence to keep up with the demand for the product.

www.yahoo.com

Next we have solar panels.

Solar Panels Are Starting to Die, Leaving Behind Toxic Trash

Photovoltaic panels are a boon for clean energy but are tricky to recycle. As the oldest ones expire, get ready for a solar e-waste glut.

www.wired.com

Then we move on to nuclear power

6 reasons why nuclear energy is not the way to a green and peaceful world - Greenpeace International

With the costs and efficiency of renewable energy solutions improving year on year, and the effects of our rapidly changing climate accelerating across the globe, we need to take an honest look at some of the myths being perpetuated by the nuclear industry and its supporters. Here are six...

www.greenpeace.org

Those, and wind energy are addressed in the following link:

Green Technologies Cause Massive Waste and Pollution

Electric vehicle batteries, solar panels, and wind turbines result in a massive amount of waste and pollution. China is responsible…

www.instituteforenergyresearch.org

Nobody ever said these Libtards were very bright.

They never get anything right.

 

[Flash]

Trump is always the topic.

Only to you stupid uneducated TDS afflicted Moon Bats that are pissed because he made America great again instead of turning it into the the Socialist shithole you assholes desire so much.

 

[Crick]

Not doing it.
Looking for a 5.7 powered Tundra.
Fuck EV's.

Enjoy. But your lack of humanity is noted.

 

[Crick]

Nobody ever said these Libtards were very bright.

Are you classifiying Elon Musk as a "libtard"?

They never get anything right.

That must explain the hundred billion in his pocket.

 

[Hellbilly]

We are stewards of Mother Earth, so yes, we should all do our part to protect her. Be it air, water or land.

^^^^This^^^^

 

[Crick]

Only to you stupid uneducated TDS afflicted Moon Bats that are pissed because he made America great again instead of turning it into the the Socialist shithole you assholes desire so much.

Trump is only a single guy and given his age and lifestyle, won't live much longer. The problem is his supporters who seem to think that we need to get rid of our Constitution and the freedoms it has given all of us. This could have been predicted. When the demographers told us ten years ago that uneducated white males were going to become a minority and thus the RNC was going to lose its foundation, too many of us on the other side were quietly pleased thinking the right wing would just slowly shrink as our political centroid moved leftward. But expecting a racist, war mongering and gun fantasizing segment of the population to give up power to people they believe subhuman, without a violent response was naive of us all.

 

[Independentthinker]

It's because the left is more interested in science and listens to scientists more.

So they more understand the consequences of not taking care of the planet.

Also they are more empathetic than right wingers, so they care more about the consequences to humans.

I could have saved you a lot of time and a worthless thread.

But the things they do don't help, and some actually make things worse. That's the point.
Example: Making batteries for electric cars hurts the environment and studies have shown that the total cost of running an EV is the same as costing $17 per gallon for gas. Most all Climate Change initiatives increase income inequality because they hurt the poor the most.

 

[Independentthinker]

Nobody ever said these Libtards were very bright.

They never get anything right.

I will say this, their hearts are in the right place. It's just that their brains are too stupid to realize what they do, doesn't work or makes things worse. They can't comprehend that what sounds good in their hearts actually doesn't work.

 

[Crick]

I will say this, their hearts are in the right place. It's just that their brains are too stupid to realize what they do, doesn't work or makes things worse. They can't comprehend that what sounds good in their hearts actually doesn't work.

Do you realize that by insulting the intelligence of roughly half of all Americans, you have revealed an unwarranted prejudicial bias that is the product of nothing but your own ignorance?

 

[Flash]

I will say this, their hearts are in the right place. It's just that their brains are too stupid to realize what they do, doesn't work or makes things worse. They can't comprehend that what sounds good in their hearts actually doesn't work.

They want to believe all that kumbala bullshit. Unfortunately it doesn't work out in real life.

They just don't have the mental capacity to understand they are bonkers.

 

[Flash]

Do you realize that by insulting the intelligence of roughly half of all Americans, you have revealed an unwarranted prejudicial bias that is the product of nothing but your own ignorance?

LOL! That is funny as hell seeing that this AGW bullshit that you are crminally obsessed with is nothing more than Leftest polictical stupidity.