Actually sorry Gramps I just remembered you hate when people ask for links. Here's one of my own:
Dueling Claims on Crime Trend
Magically ends almost 3 year ago. Fuck off with that bullshit
Find a link with a chart that includes 2015 (I couldn't) and 2016 (which hasn't ended btw)
Oh wait, you're against that. Because facts don't matter to Trump voters.
I'm not against it. I've seen the news coverage over the last two years as well as the alarming statistics of how they've risen. I respect you but if you choose to ignore the obvious then that's on you. And if its not obvious then you're getting your info from the wrong places.
There was more "news" coverage about the Kardashian's the last 2 years than there was about what we're talking about. If you don't care about the truth, then there's no point in continuing the conversation.
Violent crime has been trending down for decades, including almost all of Obama's Presidency. And that's actually the truth, even if you don't want to hear it.