I dont give two craps about israel OR palestine

[Sixties Fan]

I just thought they were fighting because the Palestinians got their country renamed Israel and a bunch of Jewish refugees from Europe moved there. Palestinians weren't pleased. Jewish people weren't leaving. Things proceeded from there.

I suggest you read real history and not the history the Arabs have been pushing since they first attacked the indigenous people of the land in 1920 because the guy who wanted to become leader of the Arab World post WWI decided all Jews needed to die.

-Palestine was NEVER a country.
-The name Palestine for the area came from the Romans who wanted to make all Jews forget their ancient land. That was in 135 CE
-Arabs only came in droves in the 7th century after Mohammad died in the 7th century CE, over five centuries AFTER the Romans renamed Judea and Samaria as what became translated as "Palestine"
- Palestinians are ARABS (Put two and two together)

Jews have always returned to their ancient homeland for the past 2000 years. It was not "A Bunch of Jewish Refugees" who started immigrating to Palestine, but indigenous Jews who saw no other place for them to move to but their ancient homeland. THAT had been going on, especially, since the early 1800s where more and more Jews saw that Europe was going to continue to be intolerant of Jews and decided to return to their ancient homeland.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for Jews to "leave" their ancient homeland, which has always belonged to them, no matter how many invaders found their way to it, and conquered it.

According to you and other ignoramuses like you, Jews are "Europeans" ?
Really?
Japanese people who live in Europe for centuries are "Europeans"?
Hawaiian people who have lived in Europe for centuries are "Europeans"?


Things proceed from sheer ignorance, which causes fear, which causes hatred.

So, the Christians and Muslims who consider themselves as replacement to Judaism have more rights to the land of Israel than the indigenous Jewish Nation?

Wait......you don't get it......

And possibly never will.


But there is always hope. Yeap, there is always hope that the bulb will light up some day.

The problem here is this:

Arab strategists have created an entire simplified version of history calculated quite cynically to appeal to the ignorant portion of the world left. First, they created a brand new people that had not existed and then retrofitted their existence back in time. This was undertaken to reverse the reality that it wasn't Arabs with all their considerable land and resources against Jews who had just this tiny sliver of marginal land, but of mighty Israelis against the poor, little Palestinians. It relied upon an emotional appear targeting the stupid.

After creating this new group, they then set about to mimic the language of other struggles. if you study the prattle of their illiberal western useful idiots, it is replete with references to "colonialism" (which only an utter moron would think the case, "apartheid" (despite the fact Arabs living in Israel have more rights than they do anywhere in Arab lands) and "Indigenous peoples" (despite the fact there are Jewish archeological remains dating back 3500 years and these brand, new "Palestinians" have existed for less than a century).

Today's authoritarian leftists, short on knowledge but eminently trainable, simply repeat all the cliché's they have been manipulated to repeat and do not look any further than that.

You want to get on my ass about semantics and your dumbass just said "arab strategists created Palestinians? Are they ******* grown in a lab?
LOL wtf

I realize you are too ignorant to know any better, but yes -- the term "Palestinain" used to describe local Arabs is a fabrication of the 20th century.


Before being encouraged to call themselves such, they were merely Arabs.

Izzat so.

>> The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[7][8] when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[9][10][11][12][13][14] In the treatise Meteorology c.340 BC, Aristotle wrote, "there is a lake in Palestine".[15][16][17][18] This is understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea.[19] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[20] Other writers, such as Strabo, referred to the region as Coele-Syria[a] ("all Syria") around 10-20 CE.[21][22]

In 135 CE, the Greek "Syria Palaestina" was used in naming a new Roman province from the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judaea after the Roman authorities crushed the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

.... The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BC during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,<< (Wiki)

​

Now I'm not a mathematician but I do understand linear time, and that looks to be at least 2500 years.

And then there's this:

​

A tune popularly known as "Lena from Palesteena". This record came out in 1920.

Change geography and history all you like.

Until the Arabs adopted the term Palestinian to define their nationalism, Palestine was always used to refer to a Region. Not a Nation, or a People.
There is no history anywhere and by any people which refers to a People or a Nation calling themselves "Palestinians" from "Palestine". Much less any Arabs.

The Mandate for Palestine referred to the region of ancient Jewish homeland because the British did not want to call it Israel. That would have been too easy and would have meant that the British government approved of the Jews regaining sovereignty over any part of their ancient homeland.
And the British never meant for the Jews to actually achieve statehood.
(Why, oh why did they end up on the Hashemite (Jordan) side attacking the Jews after they declared Independence in May of 1948? )

The Arabs after WWI wanted to be part of Greater Syria. They did not envision any Palestine State, but all of the Mandate for Palestine as part of the Arab Nation (or Muslim Nation) which is what they have always identified as, living in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, or anywhere else.

Where does the Nationality of "Palestinians" come from?

Ask the KGB.

If there were always a people who called themselves Palestinians, then why are they not identified as such before the Mandate for Palestine where both Arabs and Jews were called Palestinians and given a Palestinian passport if desired?

The Deception of Palestinian Nationalism – Stanford Review

Historically, the Palestinian “desire for statehood” and “need for liberation” was invented in large part by the Soviet Union. It is no coincidence that the blueprint for the PLO Charter was drafted in Moscow in 1964 and was approved by 422 Palestinian representative hand selected by the KGB. At that time, the USSR was in the business of creating people’s liberation fronts. The KGB founded the PLO as well as the National Liberation Army of Bolivia (1964) with Ernesto “Che” Guevara at its head and the National Liberation Army of Colombia (1965).

---------------------------

So the question to your comment is:

So what if there is a 1920 record with uses the word Palestine?

Look, or rather listen to the record:



It does not sound as if it is about any Palestinian Arabs, does it?
Hint, the band is Jewish, and the Region/Area, was being called Palestine for the sake of the Mandate for recreation of the Jewish Ancient homeland.
Before....the British government decided to take out 77% of that mandate for the Jews and give it to the Hashemite Arabs to create what became Jordan.

Oh, by the way, ALL JEWS living in Transjordan were systematically murdered out of their properties or run out of there by 1925, and never allowed to return.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I always find it funny when people scream about anti-Semitism but talk all kinds of shit about muslims. LOL
"You cant hate the jews, but shove some pork down a muzzies throat! ROAR"

I do too. Some wags seem oblivious to the fact that both Arabic and Hebrew are Semitic.

And what does "exactly" does that have to do with who are the indigenous people of the Land of Israel?

French, Spanish and Portuguese all come from the Latin.

Is that supposed to mean anything when it comes to who the indigenous people are in France, Spain, or Portugal?

"Semitic" is a linguistic term, Brighteyes.

I haven't even mentioned any "indigenous people". Except the Cherokee, but that's here, not there.

And no, such a term means nothing about those indigenous Europeans. More instructive would be how the Celts morphed the Latin of France and Portugal (and Galícia) into a different form than it would take in Spain, Italy, Romania and Switzerland.

I know exactly that the word Semitic refers to Languages and not People.
At least you also know that.

It sounded as if Hebrew and Arabic, coming from the same root was cause for the Arabs to have rights to any part of the Jewish Homeland. While the Jews would not have any rights to any part of Arabia where at least three Jewish tribes used to live in, before being killed, enslaved and expelled by Mohammad.
Just as the Jews are not given any rights to buy property, or get their properties and land back from what was known as TransJordan, and is now Jordan. An all Muslim, Arab country now.

You did not mean that, did you?

 

[TNHarley]

I suggest you read real history and not the history the Arabs have been pushing since they first attacked the indigenous people of the land in 1920 because the guy who wanted to become leader of the Arab World post WWI decided all Jews needed to die.

-Palestine was NEVER a country.
-The name Palestine for the area came from the Romans who wanted to make all Jews forget their ancient land. That was in 135 CE
-Arabs only came in droves in the 7th century after Mohammad died in the 7th century CE, over five centuries AFTER the Romans renamed Judea and Samaria as what became translated as "Palestine"
- Palestinians are ARABS (Put two and two together)

Jews have always returned to their ancient homeland for the past 2000 years. It was not "A Bunch of Jewish Refugees" who started immigrating to Palestine, but indigenous Jews who saw no other place for them to move to but their ancient homeland. THAT had been going on, especially, since the early 1800s where more and more Jews saw that Europe was going to continue to be intolerant of Jews and decided to return to their ancient homeland.

There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for Jews to "leave" their ancient homeland, which has always belonged to them, no matter how many invaders found their way to it, and conquered it.

According to you and other ignoramuses like you, Jews are "Europeans" ?
Really?
Japanese people who live in Europe for centuries are "Europeans"?
Hawaiian people who have lived in Europe for centuries are "Europeans"?


Things proceed from sheer ignorance, which causes fear, which causes hatred.

So, the Christians and Muslims who consider themselves as replacement to Judaism have more rights to the land of Israel than the indigenous Jewish Nation?

Wait......you don't get it......

And possibly never will.


But there is always hope. Yeap, there is always hope that the bulb will light up some day.

The problem here is this:

Arab strategists have created an entire simplified version of history calculated quite cynically to appeal to the ignorant portion of the world left. First, they created a brand new people that had not existed and then retrofitted their existence back in time. This was undertaken to reverse the reality that it wasn't Arabs with all their considerable land and resources against Jews who had just this tiny sliver of marginal land, but of mighty Israelis against the poor, little Palestinians. It relied upon an emotional appear targeting the stupid.

After creating this new group, they then set about to mimic the language of other struggles. if you study the prattle of their illiberal western useful idiots, it is replete with references to "colonialism" (which only an utter moron would think the case, "apartheid" (despite the fact Arabs living in Israel have more rights than they do anywhere in Arab lands) and "Indigenous peoples" (despite the fact there are Jewish archeological remains dating back 3500 years and these brand, new "Palestinians" have existed for less than a century).

Today's authoritarian leftists, short on knowledge but eminently trainable, simply repeat all the cliché's they have been manipulated to repeat and do not look any further than that.

You want to get on my ass about semantics and your dumbass just said "arab strategists created Palestinians? Are they ******* grown in a lab?
LOL wtf

I realize you are too ignorant to know any better, but yes -- the term "Palestinain" used to describe local Arabs is a fabrication of the 20th century.


Before being encouraged to call themselves such, they were merely Arabs.

Izzat so.

>> The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[7][8] when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[9][10][11][12][13][14] In the treatise Meteorology c.340 BC, Aristotle wrote, "there is a lake in Palestine".[15][16][17][18] This is understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea.[19] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[20] Other writers, such as Strabo, referred to the region as Coele-Syria[a] ("all Syria") around 10-20 CE.[21][22]

In 135 CE, the Greek "Syria Palaestina" was used in naming a new Roman province from the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judaea after the Roman authorities crushed the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

.... The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BC during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,<< (Wiki)

​

Now I'm not a mathematician but I do understand linear time, and that looks to be at least 2500 years.

And then there's this:

​

A tune popularly known as "Lena from Palesteena". This record came out in 1920.

Change geography and history all you like.

Until the Arabs adopted the term Palestinian to define their nationalism, Palestine was always used to refer to a Region. Not a Nation, or a People.
There is no history anywhere and by any people which refers to a People or a Nation calling themselves "Palestinians" from "Palestine". Much less any Arabs.

The Mandate for Palestine referred to the region of ancient Jewish homeland because the British did not want to call it Israel. That would have been too easy and would have meant that the British government approved of the Jews regaining sovereignty over any part of their ancient homeland.
And the British never meant for the Jews to actually achieve statehood.
(Why, oh why did they end up on the Hashemite (Jordan) side attacking the Jews after they declared Independence in May of 1948? )

The Arabs after WWI wanted to be part of Greater Syria. They did not envision any Palestine State, but all of the Mandate for Palestine as part of the Arab Nation (or Muslim Nation) which is what they have always identified as, living in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, or anywhere else.

Where does the Nationality of "Palestinians" come from?

Ask the KGB.

If there were always a people who called themselves Palestinians, then why are they not identified as such before the Mandate for Palestine where both Arabs and Jews were called Palestinians and given a Palestinian passport if desired?

The Deception of Palestinian Nationalism – Stanford Review

Historically, the Palestinian “desire for statehood” and “need for liberation” was invented in large part by the Soviet Union. It is no coincidence that the blueprint for the PLO Charter was drafted in Moscow in 1964 and was approved by 422 Palestinian representative hand selected by the KGB. At that time, the USSR was in the business of creating people’s liberation fronts. The KGB founded the PLO as well as the National Liberation Army of Bolivia (1964) with Ernesto “Che” Guevara at its head and the National Liberation Army of Colombia (1965).

---------------------------

So the question to your comment is:

So what if there is a 1920 record with uses the word Palestine?

Look, or rather listen to the record:



It does not sound as if it is about any Palestinian Arabs, does it?
Hint, the band is Jewish, and the Region/Area, was being called Palestine for the sake of the Mandate for recreation of the Jewish Ancient homeland.
Before....the British government decided to take out 77% of that mandate for the Jews and give it to the Hashemite Arabs to create what became Jordan.

Oh, by the way, ALL JEWS living in Transjordan were systematically murdered out of their properties or run out of there by 1925, and never allowed to return.

So the problem is they didn't identify with their homeland fast enough?

 

[Sixties Fan]

The problem here is this:

Arab strategists have created an entire simplified version of history calculated quite cynically to appeal to the ignorant portion of the world left. First, they created a brand new people that had not existed and then retrofitted their existence back in time. This was undertaken to reverse the reality that it wasn't Arabs with all their considerable land and resources against Jews who had just this tiny sliver of marginal land, but of mighty Israelis against the poor, little Palestinians. It relied upon an emotional appear targeting the stupid.

After creating this new group, they then set about to mimic the language of other struggles. if you study the prattle of their illiberal western useful idiots, it is replete with references to "colonialism" (which only an utter moron would think the case, "apartheid" (despite the fact Arabs living in Israel have more rights than they do anywhere in Arab lands) and "Indigenous peoples" (despite the fact there are Jewish archeological remains dating back 3500 years and these brand, new "Palestinians" have existed for less than a century).

Today's authoritarian leftists, short on knowledge but eminently trainable, simply repeat all the cliché's they have been manipulated to repeat and do not look any further than that.

You want to get on my ass about semantics and your dumbass just said "arab strategists created Palestinians? Are they ******* grown in a lab?
LOL wtf

I realize you are too ignorant to know any better, but yes -- the term "Palestinain" used to describe local Arabs is a fabrication of the 20th century.


Before being encouraged to call themselves such, they were merely Arabs.

Izzat so.

>> The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[7][8] when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[9][10][11][12][13][14] In the treatise Meteorology c.340 BC, Aristotle wrote, "there is a lake in Palestine".[15][16][17][18] This is understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea.[19] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[20] Other writers, such as Strabo, referred to the region as Coele-Syria[a] ("all Syria") around 10-20 CE.[21][22]

In 135 CE, the Greek "Syria Palaestina" was used in naming a new Roman province from the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judaea after the Roman authorities crushed the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

.... The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BC during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,<< (Wiki)

​

Now I'm not a mathematician but I do understand linear time, and that looks to be at least 2500 years.

And then there's this:

​

A tune popularly known as "Lena from Palesteena". This record came out in 1920.

Change geography and history all you like.

Until the Arabs adopted the term Palestinian to define their nationalism, Palestine was always used to refer to a Region. Not a Nation, or a People.
There is no history anywhere and by any people which refers to a People or a Nation calling themselves "Palestinians" from "Palestine". Much less any Arabs.

The Mandate for Palestine referred to the region of ancient Jewish homeland because the British did not want to call it Israel. That would have been too easy and would have meant that the British government approved of the Jews regaining sovereignty over any part of their ancient homeland.
And the British never meant for the Jews to actually achieve statehood.
(Why, oh why did they end up on the Hashemite (Jordan) side attacking the Jews after they declared Independence in May of 1948? )

The Arabs after WWI wanted to be part of Greater Syria. They did not envision any Palestine State, but all of the Mandate for Palestine as part of the Arab Nation (or Muslim Nation) which is what they have always identified as, living in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, or anywhere else.

Where does the Nationality of "Palestinians" come from?

Ask the KGB.

If there were always a people who called themselves Palestinians, then why are they not identified as such before the Mandate for Palestine where both Arabs and Jews were called Palestinians and given a Palestinian passport if desired?

The Deception of Palestinian Nationalism – Stanford Review

Historically, the Palestinian “desire for statehood” and “need for liberation” was invented in large part by the Soviet Union. It is no coincidence that the blueprint for the PLO Charter was drafted in Moscow in 1964 and was approved by 422 Palestinian representative hand selected by the KGB. At that time, the USSR was in the business of creating people’s liberation fronts. The KGB founded the PLO as well as the National Liberation Army of Bolivia (1964) with Ernesto “Che” Guevara at its head and the National Liberation Army of Colombia (1965).

---------------------------

So the question to your comment is:

So what if there is a 1920 record with uses the word Palestine?

Look, or rather listen to the record:



It does not sound as if it is about any Palestinian Arabs, does it?
Hint, the band is Jewish, and the Region/Area, was being called Palestine for the sake of the Mandate for recreation of the Jewish Ancient homeland.
Before....the British government decided to take out 77% of that mandate for the Jews and give it to the Hashemite Arabs to create what became Jordan.

Oh, by the way, ALL JEWS living in Transjordan were systematically murdered out of their properties or run out of there by 1925, and never allowed to return.

So the problem is they didn't identify with their homeland fast enough?

Keep up the idiotic questions.
They are designed for people who know nothing and care to know nothing about history and what the Israel/Arabs conflict has always been about.

Next......more idiotic ignorant sayings and questions from the thread's OP.

 

[Sixties Fan]

For those who did not care to read one of the links I posted:

The Deception of Palestinian Nationalism – Stanford Review

To understand the PLO’s conception of a Palestinian state, it is instructive to examine Article 24 of the original PLO Charter. It reads: “this Organization [the PLO] does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, in the Gaza Strip or the Himmah area.” If not the West Bank and Gaza, then what exactly what did, the PLO claim? The Palestine that the PLO wanted was in fact the State of Israel.

--------------
The Arabs were not demanding a return of Judea, Samaria (West Bank as named by the Hashemites in 1950)into "Palestinian" hands before 1967.

And today pro Palestinians cannot figure out why.

 

[TNHarley]

You want to get on my ass about semantics and your dumbass just said "arab strategists created Palestinians? Are they ******* grown in a lab?
LOL wtf

I realize you are too ignorant to know any better, but yes -- the term "Palestinain" used to describe local Arabs is a fabrication of the 20th century.


Before being encouraged to call themselves such, they were merely Arabs.

Izzat so.

>> The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece,[7][8] when Herodotus wrote of a "district of Syria, called Palaistinê" in The Histories, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley.[9][10][11][12][13][14] In the treatise Meteorology c.340 BC, Aristotle wrote, "there is a lake in Palestine".[15][16][17][18] This is understood by scholars to be a reference to the Dead Sea.[19] Later Greek writers such as Polemon and Pausanias also used the word, which was followed by Roman writers such as Ovid, Tibullus, Pomponius Mela, Pliny the Elder, Dio Chrysostom, Statius, Plutarch as well as Roman Judean writers Philo of Alexandria and Josephus.[20] Other writers, such as Strabo, referred to the region as Coele-Syria[a] ("all Syria") around 10-20 CE.[21][22]

In 135 CE, the Greek "Syria Palaestina" was used in naming a new Roman province from the merger of Roman Syria and Roman Judaea after the Roman authorities crushed the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

.... The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BC during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the temple at Medinet Habu which refers to the Peleset among those who fought with Egypt in Ramesses III's reign,<< (Wiki)

​

Now I'm not a mathematician but I do understand linear time, and that looks to be at least 2500 years.

And then there's this:

​

A tune popularly known as "Lena from Palesteena". This record came out in 1920.

Change geography and history all you like.

Until the Arabs adopted the term Palestinian to define their nationalism, Palestine was always used to refer to a Region. Not a Nation, or a People.
There is no history anywhere and by any people which refers to a People or a Nation calling themselves "Palestinians" from "Palestine". Much less any Arabs.

The Mandate for Palestine referred to the region of ancient Jewish homeland because the British did not want to call it Israel. That would have been too easy and would have meant that the British government approved of the Jews regaining sovereignty over any part of their ancient homeland.
And the British never meant for the Jews to actually achieve statehood.
(Why, oh why did they end up on the Hashemite (Jordan) side attacking the Jews after they declared Independence in May of 1948? )

The Arabs after WWI wanted to be part of Greater Syria. They did not envision any Palestine State, but all of the Mandate for Palestine as part of the Arab Nation (or Muslim Nation) which is what they have always identified as, living in Egypt, Syria, Lybia, or anywhere else.

Where does the Nationality of "Palestinians" come from?

Ask the KGB.

If there were always a people who called themselves Palestinians, then why are they not identified as such before the Mandate for Palestine where both Arabs and Jews were called Palestinians and given a Palestinian passport if desired?

The Deception of Palestinian Nationalism – Stanford Review

Historically, the Palestinian “desire for statehood” and “need for liberation” was invented in large part by the Soviet Union. It is no coincidence that the blueprint for the PLO Charter was drafted in Moscow in 1964 and was approved by 422 Palestinian representative hand selected by the KGB. At that time, the USSR was in the business of creating people’s liberation fronts. The KGB founded the PLO as well as the National Liberation Army of Bolivia (1964) with Ernesto “Che” Guevara at its head and the National Liberation Army of Colombia (1965).

---------------------------

So the question to your comment is:

So what if there is a 1920 record with uses the word Palestine?

Look, or rather listen to the record:



It does not sound as if it is about any Palestinian Arabs, does it?
Hint, the band is Jewish, and the Region/Area, was being called Palestine for the sake of the Mandate for recreation of the Jewish Ancient homeland.
Before....the British government decided to take out 77% of that mandate for the Jews and give it to the Hashemite Arabs to create what became Jordan.

Oh, by the way, ALL JEWS living in Transjordan were systematically murdered out of their properties or run out of there by 1925, and never allowed to return.

So the problem is they didn't identify with their homeland fast enough?

Keep up the idiotic questions.
They are designed for people who know nothing and care to know nothing about history and what the Israel/Arabs conflict has always been about.

Next......more idiotic ignorant sayings and questions from the thread's OP.

Why don't you quit with your insatiable crave for petty bullshit and answer the question.
I asked that question because I read what you wrote. Do you know how this works?

 

[TheOldSchool]

I just thought they were fighting because the Palestinians got their country renamed Israel and a bunch of Jewish refugees from Europe moved there. Palestinians weren't pleased. Jewish people weren't leaving. Things proceeded from there.

Yea, but that's just the top layer.
I think it stems more to Temple Mount. Jews cant fulfill their apocalyptic wet dreams without destroying the muslims holy sites. Just my opinion, of course.

Drop a MOAB on the Temple Mount. Problem solved.

 

[yiostheoy]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

Well the Israelis having discovered world wide bigotry against them would just like to live in their own ancestral lands in peace.

And the Palestinians who have a claim to the lower coastal regions since the time of the ancient Greeks even before the Israelis' ancestors moved there want all of the land too.

So while an Israeli would never blow you up with a bomb a Palestinian surely would if given half a chance.

That's why it affects you.

Moron.

 

[TNHarley]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

why are you even in this board?

What do you mean?

 

[yiostheoy]

I just thought they were fighting because the Palestinians got their country renamed Israel and a bunch of Jewish refugees from Europe moved there. Palestinians weren't pleased. Jewish people weren't leaving. Things proceeded from there.

Yea, but that's just the top layer.
I think it stems more to Temple Mount. Jews cant fulfill their apocalyptic wet dreams without destroying the muslims holy sites. Just my opinion, of course.

Drop a MOAB on the Temple Mount. Problem solved.

You can't do that.

The Fortress Antonia is up there were Jesus was judged by Pontius Pilate.

A fire carefully set in the Dome Of The Rock would work a lot better.

You would need a lot of accelerant like kerosene or gasoline though.

 

[yiostheoy]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

why are you even in this board?

What do you mean?

aris2chat is wondering why morons join this forum ??

 

[yiostheoy]

For those who did not care to read one of the links I posted:

The Deception of Palestinian Nationalism – Stanford Review

To understand the PLO’s conception of a Palestinian state, it is instructive to examine Article 24 of the original PLO Charter. It reads: “this Organization [the PLO] does not exercise any regional sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, in the Gaza Strip or the Himmah area.” If not the West Bank and Gaza, then what exactly what did, the PLO claim? The Palestine that the PLO wanted was in fact the State of Israel.

--------------
The Arabs were not demanding a return of Judea, Samaria (West Bank as named by the Hashemites in 1950)into "Palestinian" hands before 1967.

And today pro Palestinians cannot figure out why.

That's the long version, Sixties Fan . It's way over TNHarley 's head.

So I gave him the short version instead.

 

[TNHarley]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

Well the Israelis having discovered world wide bigotry against them would just like to live in their own ancestral lands in peace.

And the Palestinians who have a claim to the lower coastal regions since the time of the ancient Greeks even before the Israelis' ancestors moved there want all of the land too.

So while an Israeli would never blow you up with a bomb a Palestinian surely would if given half a chance.

That's why it affects you.

Moron.

Dude, the Jews have been hated for thousands of years. Don't give me that bullshit
And I am well aware the Palestinians are violent and shit. So us the Israeli govt.

 

[yiostheoy]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

TNHarley you should have started this thread in the Flame Zone so that we could choose the STFU button on your statements.

Moron.

 

[TNHarley]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

why are you even in this board?

What do you mean?

aris2chat is wondering why morons join this forum ??

I would battle you in a historical face off any day. You can be funny, but your intelligence doesn't impress me a bit.

 

[yiostheoy]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

Well the Israelis having discovered world wide bigotry against them would just like to live in their own ancestral lands in peace.

And the Palestinians who have a claim to the lower coastal regions since the time of the ancient Greeks even before the Israelis' ancestors moved there want all of the land too.

So while an Israeli would never blow you up with a bomb a Palestinian surely would if given half a chance.

That's why it affects you.

Moron.

Dude, the Jews have been hated for thousands of years. Don't give me that bullshit
And I am well aware the Palestinians are violent and shit. So us the Israeli govt.

TNHarley you are about as intellectual as the innertube on your motorcycle front tire.

 

[TNHarley]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

TNHarley you should have started this thread in the Flame Zone so that we could choose the STFU button on your statements.

If you were self aware, you would have killed yourself long ago.

 

[yiostheoy]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

why are you even in this board?

What do you mean?

aris2chat is wondering why morons join this forum ??

I would battle you in a historical face off any day. You can be funny, but your intelligence doesn't impress me a bit.

I am going to save the rest of my ad homs at you for Friday's 4F.

Moron.

 

[TNHarley]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

Well the Israelis having discovered world wide bigotry against them would just like to live in their own ancestral lands in peace.

And the Palestinians who have a claim to the lower coastal regions since the time of the ancient Greeks even before the Israelis' ancestors moved there want all of the land too.

So while an Israeli would never blow you up with a bomb a Palestinian surely would if given half a chance.

That's why it affects you.

Moron.

Dude, the Jews have been hated for thousands of years. Don't give me that bullshit
And I am well aware the Palestinians are violent and shit. So us the Israeli govt.

TNHarley you are about as intellectual as the innertube on your motorcycle front tire.

Your opinion of me changes with the discussion, dumbfuck. You are so dishonest..

 

[TNHarley]

Why is it such a big deal anyways? Is it because of the doom and gloom from religious prophecies? Lol...
How much can people care about two groups of people that resort to terrorism and destruction constantly?

why are you even in this board?

What do you mean?

aris2chat is wondering why morons join this forum ??

I would battle you in a historical face off any day. You can be funny, but your intelligence doesn't impress me a bit.

I am going to save the rest of my ad homs at you for Friday's 4F.

Moron.

You are a joke yourself, chips. No need to try too hard