I don't get it. Do republicans even acknowledge the colossal mess of our nation's infrastructure?

[Darkwind]

We have like 100 times the land mass of Sweden too. Who gives a shit about Sweden?

Wow...you don't even realize you supported my point.

Now that IS funny.

You're right. I dont realize it. Because I didnt.
Why is Sweden an apt comparison to the US?

I'm guessing you don't believe any country is an apt comparison to the US, because if you acknowledged any were you'd get trapped.

If you cannot make your case based upon the merits of the US system of governance, making a comparison to other, dissimilar systems, isn't gong to help you. It has nothing to do with traps, but your belief that we can spend and do exactly as other countries, all the while ignoring that we're the best economy in the world vs their not so good economies.

Stick with just fixing things in this country and let the world do what the world does.

So the US cannot be compared to any other country on earth? Why is that?

Of course they can be compared. The same way that apples can be compared with oranges. Both are fruits from trees, both are round, both provide a fraction of the necessary nutrients humans need.

The US is a country, like others. It has people, like others. It has roads, like others. It has governmental accountability like.....oh, wait.....

 

[Seawytch]

Even if we don't have "the best", we should be a lot higher up on this list...We are a nation of drivers whereas Sweden has a strong public transportation system. We spend the same as fucking Sweden?

We have like 100 times the land mass of Sweden too. Who gives a shit about Sweden?

Wow...you don't even realize you supported my point.

Now that IS funny.

You're right. I dont realize it. Because I didnt.
Why is Sweden an apt comparison to the US?

I'm guessing you don't believe any country is an apt comparison to the US, because if you acknowledged any were you'd get trapped.

If you cannot make your case based upon the merits of the US system of governance, making a comparison to other, dissimilar systems, isn't gong to help you. It has nothing to do with traps, but your belief that we can spend and do exactly as other countries, all the while ignoring that we're the best economy in the world vs their not so good economies.

Stick with just fixing things in this country and let the world do what the world does.

Are you simply not paying attention. That's the whole freaking point. Sweden is tiny compared to us. They have an excellent public transportation system, unlike the US which is a nation of automobile drivers. We spend the same amount of money on our HUGE driving country as teeny tiny Sweden does.

 

[Darkwind]

When you're spending more on your military than most of the rest of the world combined, and when you're defending other countries interests at your expense,

and when those countries can use the amount they are saving on defense, at our expense, for other interests such as their infrastructure,

then of course, you make your own infrastructure spending a bigger problem.

No.

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

 

[Darkwind]

We have like 100 times the land mass of Sweden too. Who gives a shit about Sweden?

Wow...you don't even realize you supported my point.

Now that IS funny.

You're right. I dont realize it. Because I didnt.
Why is Sweden an apt comparison to the US?

I'm guessing you don't believe any country is an apt comparison to the US, because if you acknowledged any were you'd get trapped.

If you cannot make your case based upon the merits of the US system of governance, making a comparison to other, dissimilar systems, isn't gong to help you. It has nothing to do with traps, but your belief that we can spend and do exactly as other countries, all the while ignoring that we're the best economy in the world vs their not so good economies.

Stick with just fixing things in this country and let the world do what the world does.

Are you simply not paying attention. That's the whole freaking point. Sweden is tiny compared to us. They have an excellent public transportation system, unlike the US which is a nation of automobile drivers. We spend the same amount of money on our HUGE driving country as teeny tiny Sweden does.

We waste more than Sweden. Get the audit done I suggested and then talk about it. BTW...Sweden does not have our form of government, nor our culture of allowing the government to just do as it pleases. Infrastructure can be fixed without resorting to a false comparison of countries.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Even if we don't have "the best", we should be a lot higher up on this list...We are a nation of drivers whereas Sweden has a strong public transportation system. We spend the same as fucking Sweden?

We have like 100 times the land mass of Sweden too. Who gives a shit about Sweden?

Wow...you don't even realize you supported my point.

Now that IS funny.

You're right. I dont realize it. Because I didnt.
Why is Sweden an apt comparison to the US?

I'm guessing you don't believe any country is an apt comparison to the US, because if you acknowledged any were you'd get trapped.

I'm guessing you cannot say why Sweden is an apt comparison.
I'm also guessing you have to look up the word "apt".

You haven't proven they aren't comparable.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When you're spending more on your military than most of the rest of the world combined, and when you're defending other countries interests at your expense,

and when those countries can use the amount they are saving on defense, at our expense, for other interests such as their infrastructure,

then of course, you make your own infrastructure spending a bigger problem.

No.

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

Then why aren't our allies spending the same percentages on their defense?

 

[Seawytch]

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

Let's start with the fact that the Founders didn't even want a standing army (hence the well regulated militia part of the 2nd amendment)

Let's finish with this:

 

[NYcarbineer]

Wow...you don't even realize you supported my point.

Now that IS funny.

You're right. I dont realize it. Because I didnt.
Why is Sweden an apt comparison to the US?

I'm guessing you don't believe any country is an apt comparison to the US, because if you acknowledged any were you'd get trapped.

If you cannot make your case based upon the merits of the US system of governance, making a comparison to other, dissimilar systems, isn't gong to help you. It has nothing to do with traps, but your belief that we can spend and do exactly as other countries, all the while ignoring that we're the best economy in the world vs their not so good economies.

Stick with just fixing things in this country and let the world do what the world does.

Are you simply not paying attention. That's the whole freaking point. Sweden is tiny compared to us. They have an excellent public transportation system, unlike the US which is a nation of automobile drivers. We spend the same amount of money on our HUGE driving country as teeny tiny Sweden does.

We waste more than Sweden. Get the audit done I suggested and then talk about it. BTW...Sweden does not have our form of government, nor our culture of allowing the government to just do as it pleases. Infrastructure can be fixed without resorting to a false comparison of countries.

So Sweden's socialist government and culture are superior to ours.

 

[NYcarbineer]

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

Let's start with the fact that the Founders didn't even want a standing army (hence the well regulated militia part of the 2nd amendment)

Let's finish with this:

Apparently we're the only nation on earth that has enemies according to Darkwind.

 

[Darkwind]

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

Let's start with the fact that the Founders didn't even want a standing army (hence the well regulated militia part of the 2nd amendment)

Let's finish with this:

The founders wanted a means to protect this country and provided a mechanism for it. In fact, it is the number one priority of our Federal Government.

Here is an idea...instead of posting what OTHER countries spend on their military, how about we post the sheer number of troops they can put into the field....

The top 10 militarizes in the world not including the United States equals ..31,582,000 compared to our 2,349,750.....that is a 13 to 1 ratio...

 

[Darkwind]

You're right. I dont realize it. Because I didnt.
Why is Sweden an apt comparison to the US?

I'm guessing you don't believe any country is an apt comparison to the US, because if you acknowledged any were you'd get trapped.

If you cannot make your case based upon the merits of the US system of governance, making a comparison to other, dissimilar systems, isn't gong to help you. It has nothing to do with traps, but your belief that we can spend and do exactly as other countries, all the while ignoring that we're the best economy in the world vs their not so good economies.

Stick with just fixing things in this country and let the world do what the world does.

Are you simply not paying attention. That's the whole freaking point. Sweden is tiny compared to us. They have an excellent public transportation system, unlike the US which is a nation of automobile drivers. We spend the same amount of money on our HUGE driving country as teeny tiny Sweden does.

We waste more than Sweden. Get the audit done I suggested and then talk about it. BTW...Sweden does not have our form of government, nor our culture of allowing the government to just do as it pleases. Infrastructure can be fixed without resorting to a false comparison of countries.

So Sweden's socialist government and culture are superior to ours.

No, they are not. You want to take a single issue that is not comparable, and then equate their superiority over us? This is why I do not take you seriously.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm guessing you don't believe any country is an apt comparison to the US, because if you acknowledged any were you'd get trapped.

If you cannot make your case based upon the merits of the US system of governance, making a comparison to other, dissimilar systems, isn't gong to help you. It has nothing to do with traps, but your belief that we can spend and do exactly as other countries, all the while ignoring that we're the best economy in the world vs their not so good economies.

Stick with just fixing things in this country and let the world do what the world does.

Are you simply not paying attention. That's the whole freaking point. Sweden is tiny compared to us. They have an excellent public transportation system, unlike the US which is a nation of automobile drivers. We spend the same amount of money on our HUGE driving country as teeny tiny Sweden does.

We waste more than Sweden. Get the audit done I suggested and then talk about it. BTW...Sweden does not have our form of government, nor our culture of allowing the government to just do as it pleases. Infrastructure can be fixed without resorting to a false comparison of countries.

So Sweden's socialist government and culture are superior to ours.

No, they are not. You want to take a single issue that is not comparable, and then equate their superiority over us? This is why I do not take you seriously.

What's wrong with Sweden that's so much better here?

 

[Rozman]

This is funny.....
GWB destroyed the country....
GWB destroyed the world.....
GWB destroyed the galaxy.....

And the Republican party did so much worse.....

And where o where has the democrat party been in all of this?........

Answer.......

The sound of crickets,that's what I hear....

 

[NYcarbineer]

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

Let's start with the fact that the Founders didn't even want a standing army (hence the well regulated militia part of the 2nd amendment)

Let's finish with this:

The founders wanted a means to protect this country and provided a mechanism for it. In fact, it is the number one priority of our Federal Government.

Here is an idea...instead of posting what OTHER countries spend on their military, how about we post the sheer number of troops they can put into the field....

The top 10 militarizes in the world not including the United States equals ..31,582,000 compared to our 2,349,750.....that is a 13 to 1 ratio...

And what does that matter? Where do you plan to be fighting a ground war where the top 10 militaries of the world are all arrayed against us?

 

[Seawytch]

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

Let's start with the fact that the Founders didn't even want a standing army (hence the well regulated militia part of the 2nd amendment)

Let's finish with this:

The founders wanted a means to protect this country and provided a mechanism for it. In fact, it is the number one priority of our Federal Government.

Here is an idea...instead of posting what OTHER countries spend on their military, how about we post the sheer number of troops they can put into the field....

The top 10 militarizes in the world not including the United States equals ..31,582,000 compared to our 2,349,750.....that is a 13 to 1 ratio...

And what does that matter? Where do you plan to be fighting a ground war where the top 10 militaries of the world are all arrayed against us?

Alone...

 

[Darkwind]

We do not have to defend against just one country, but all countries. Go look up the armies of our top 5 enemies. They outnumber us nearly 20 to 1.

I don't want a nation that can just barely defend itself when the top priority of government is to protect us. Top priority means it gets top spending priority.

Let's start with the fact that the Founders didn't even want a standing army (hence the well regulated militia part of the 2nd amendment)

Let's finish with this:

The founders wanted a means to protect this country and provided a mechanism for it. In fact, it is the number one priority of our Federal Government.

Here is an idea...instead of posting what OTHER countries spend on their military, how about we post the sheer number of troops they can put into the field....

The top 10 militarizes in the world not including the United States equals ..31,582,000 compared to our 2,349,750.....that is a 13 to 1 ratio...

And what does that matter? Where do you plan to be fighting a ground war where the top 10 militaries of the world are all arrayed against us?

Everywhere. Its a global issue, not just a single battlefield.

 

[Darkwind]

If you cannot make your case based upon the merits of the US system of governance, making a comparison to other, dissimilar systems, isn't gong to help you. It has nothing to do with traps, but your belief that we can spend and do exactly as other countries, all the while ignoring that we're the best economy in the world vs their not so good economies.

Stick with just fixing things in this country and let the world do what the world does.

Are you simply not paying attention. That's the whole freaking point. Sweden is tiny compared to us. They have an excellent public transportation system, unlike the US which is a nation of automobile drivers. We spend the same amount of money on our HUGE driving country as teeny tiny Sweden does.

We waste more than Sweden. Get the audit done I suggested and then talk about it. BTW...Sweden does not have our form of government, nor our culture of allowing the government to just do as it pleases. Infrastructure can be fixed without resorting to a false comparison of countries.

So Sweden's socialist government and culture are superior to ours.

No, they are not. You want to take a single issue that is not comparable, and then equate their superiority over us? This is why I do not take you seriously.

What's wrong with Sweden that's so much better here?

Who said anything was wrong with Sweden? I said they were not superior to us.

 

[Seawytch]

Are you simply not paying attention. That's the whole freaking point. Sweden is tiny compared to us. They have an excellent public transportation system, unlike the US which is a nation of automobile drivers. We spend the same amount of money on our HUGE driving country as teeny tiny Sweden does.

We waste more than Sweden. Get the audit done I suggested and then talk about it. BTW...Sweden does not have our form of government, nor our culture of allowing the government to just do as it pleases. Infrastructure can be fixed without resorting to a false comparison of countries.

So Sweden's socialist government and culture are superior to ours.

No, they are not. You want to take a single issue that is not comparable, and then equate their superiority over us? This is why I do not take you seriously.

What's wrong with Sweden that's so much better here?

Who said anything was wrong with Sweden? I said they were not superior to us.

Didn't you? You said that they don't waste as much money as the US. Isn't that saying they are superior to us in that regard?

 

[Rozman]

Infrastructure ? ?

Now there's a word that doesn't get used much around here....

 

[Darkwind]

So, looking at Sweden, we see that they are spending

We waste more than Sweden. Get the audit done I suggested and then talk about it. BTW...Sweden does not have our form of government, nor our culture of allowing the government to just do as it pleases. Infrastructure can be fixed without resorting to a false comparison of countries.

So Sweden's socialist government and culture are superior to ours.

No, they are not. You want to take a single issue that is not comparable, and then equate their superiority over us? This is why I do not take you seriously.

What's wrong with Sweden that's so much better here?

Who said anything was wrong with Sweden? I said they were not superior to us.

Didn't you? You said that they don't waste as much money as the US. Isn't that saying they are superior to us in that regard?

No, it is not the same. They have a population of 9 million people and a tax burden well over 57%, coupled with a mindset of subservience to government. A function of waste is no determination of superiority, other than they understand better than the progressives of this country that budgeting includes keeping waste down.

You realize that Sweden is a country the size of California with a quarter of California's population?