I am thankful I do not live in Turkey!

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

 

[Pogo]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

What kind of narcissistic asshole president would be thin-skinned and insecure enough to piss away his time on juvenile vindictive wankitude like this?

Oh wait....

 

[irosie91]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

Islamic law-----the ruler is seen as-----someone who is somehow related to muhummad and
therefore kinda divine. Bad mouthing mo is
a capital crime---BLASPHEMY-----she was lucky she was not sentenced to death. Turkey is now an Islamic shit hole

 

[Andylusion]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

What kind of narcissistic asshole president would be thin-skinned and insecure enough to piss away his time on juvenile vindictive wankitude like this?

Oh wait....

Not even close to comparable.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

What kind of narcissistic asshole president would be thin-skinned and insecure enough to piss away his time on juvenile vindictive wankitude like this?

Oh wait....

Donald Trump is not President and I hope never will be, so the comparison is weak mate...

 

[Pogo]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

Islamic law-----the ruler is seen as-----someone who is somehow related to muhummad and
therefore kinda divine. Bad mouthing mo is
a capital crime---BLASPHEMY-----she was lucky she was not sentenced to death. Turkey is now an Islamic shit hole

Turkey is a parliamentary representative democracy. There are no "capital crime blasphemy laws".

 

[Andylusion]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

Kind of funny how we think today. You do realize that in the majority of the world today, and throughout all of human history, you didn't insult those in authority. It's only in a few largely western cultures where people have zero respect for anyone but themselves... and think it's perfectly fine to be insulting towards those over them.

Honestly, if I hire you to do anything for me, and you insult me... your fired. In fact, I've done this. I think people should have more decency and respect. It's funny how people always want everyone else to give them respect, while not giving anyone respect themselves.

Just be respectful. I respect Obama, even though I disagree with his horrible policies. How hard is this?

 

[Pogo]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

What kind of narcissistic asshole president would be thin-skinned and insecure enough to piss away his time on juvenile vindictive wankitude like this?

Oh wait....

Donald Trump is not President and I hope never will be, so the comparison is weak mate...

Oh no question it would be a disaster. That's exactly why the comparison is appropriate.

 

[irosie91]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

Islamic law-----the ruler is seen as-----someone who is somehow related to muhummad and
therefore kinda divine. Bad mouthing mo is
a capital crime---BLASPHEMY-----she was lucky she was not sentenced to death. Turkey is now an Islamic shit hole

Turkey is a parliamentary representative democracy. There are no "capital crime blasphemy laws".

the laws disallowing criticism of the country or its leaders is--------TAKEN FROM SHARIAH SHIT------Lots of shariah influence on the laws of Turkey-------and the trend is GROWING----
it was ataturk who did a temporary suspension of that crap. Erdogan functions on an ANTI ATATURK platform

 

[frigidweirdo]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

How soon until the US becomes like this? It's going that way.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

How soon until the US becomes like this? It's going that way.

No, it will not...

 

[Pogo]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

What kind of narcissistic asshole president would be thin-skinned and insecure enough to piss away his time on juvenile vindictive wankitude like this?

Oh wait....

Not even close to comparable.

EXTREMELY close.
He sued one guy for estimating his worth lower than he liked to say it was.
He got an analyst fired for predicting that his casino would fail. Which it did.
To this day he refuses to admit to his own bankruptcies.
That link goes to endless tweets he stayed up all night whining about Megyn Kelly -- who is hardly the only recipient (see the "Mexican" judge in his fraud suit, Elizabeth Warren for two of the latest....
Finally, what makes it waaaay too close for comfort, is this:

​

---- That's Rump threatening to do EXACTLY the same thing as the story in the OP. Think about it.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

Kind of funny how we think today. You do realize that in the majority of the world today, and throughout all of human history, you didn't insult those in authority. It's only in a few largely western cultures where people have zero respect for anyone but themselves... and think it's perfectly fine to be insulting towards those over them.

Honestly, if I hire you to do anything for me, and you insult me... your fired. In fact, I've done this. I think people should have more decency and respect. It's funny how people always want everyone else to give them respect, while not giving anyone respect themselves.

Just be respectful. I respect Obama, even though I disagree with his horrible policies. How hard is this?

1. I would never work for you.

2. Those that have worked for me were told to speak their mind and I would inform them if they crossed a line and give them a chance to correct what they said.

3. You must earn respect to garner respect and respect is not given because you own or run a business or country...

 

[Andylusion]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

What kind of narcissistic asshole president would be thin-skinned and insecure enough to piss away his time on juvenile vindictive wankitude like this?

Oh wait....

Not even close to comparable.

EXTREMELY close.
He sued one guy for estimating his worth lower than he liked to say it was.
He got an analyst fired for predicting that his casino would fail. Which it did.
To this day he refuses to admit to his own bankruptcies.
That link goes to endless tweets he stayed up all night whining about Megyn Kelly -- who is hardly the only recipient (see the "Mexican" judge in his fraud suit, Elizabeth Warren for two of the latest....
Finally, what makes it waaaay too close for comfort, is this:

​

---- That's Rump threatening to do EXACTLY the same thing as the story in the OP. Think about it.

Congrats, you actually gave me the first real thing Trump has said, that I agree with and support. I agree with him completely in that youtube clip. The media is in fact horrifically dishonest, and I think being able to sue them for all their lying crap, would be great.

Fantastic idea. I think the difference between my version of "freedom of the press" is that I think the press should be free to report, not free to lie. You want to go report that so and so said x and x. That's fine. You want to report that so and so, said something he never said, and supports stuff he never claimed to support.... I think you should be sued, sure.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

How soon until the US becomes like this? It's going that way.

No, it will not...

Won't it?

I mean look what happens when the religious right have something not go their way. Trump has said there would be violence if he didn't get the nomination. It's all becoming personality politics, what happens when a megalomaniac becomes the next Trump and does a Hitler?

 

[Andylusion]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

Kind of funny how we think today. You do realize that in the majority of the world today, and throughout all of human history, you didn't insult those in authority. It's only in a few largely western cultures where people have zero respect for anyone but themselves... and think it's perfectly fine to be insulting towards those over them.

Honestly, if I hire you to do anything for me, and you insult me... your fired. In fact, I've done this. I think people should have more decency and respect. It's funny how people always want everyone else to give them respect, while not giving anyone respect themselves.

Just be respectful. I respect Obama, even though I disagree with his horrible policies. How hard is this?

1. I would never work for you.

2. Those that have worked for me were told to speak their mind and I would inform them if they crossed a line and give them a chance to correct what they said.

3. You must earn respect to garner respect and respect is not given because you own or run a business or country...

First off, if you had a visitor come to your home, and he started insulting you, and calling you foul names, maybe starts calling your wife a whore, would you say to him.... "Well, you don't know me, and I haven't earned your respect yet, and my wife hasn't earned your respect yet either, so you can say whatever."?

Or would you demand respect because he was in your home, whether you had earned it or not?

If you were hired on at a company, would you insult your boss, or supervisor, because he hadn't earned your respect yet? (by the way... kicking him out of your house because he didn't give respect, is equal to demanding respect. So don't tell me you would just ask him to leave, without demanding respect)

Now perhaps you are the one guy on the face of the Earth who would be different. Ok... I doubt it.

As for never working for me.... be careful when you say that. Everyone works for someone. I know a guy long ago who told me he was self employed because he never wanted to have to answer to a boss. Well his anti-authority attitude carried over to customers who demanded quality on his products, and he told them to shove off, and they did. Self-employed became unemployed, which led to being employed by someone who was his boss.

Be careful when you say that. Even people with no boss, have a boss called "customers".

But even beyond that... you should still be careful about saying "I'll never work for X". I found that out in an amusing story.

<story time>
This actually happened. We had a guy show up at our work place, looking for a job as manager. The guy, and our managers, didn't hit it off real well. They rubbed each other the wrong way somehow, that I was not privy to. But when your manager comes and says "We'll never hire a guy like him to be in charge".... clearly he said something, or did something, they didn't like.

Three months after this event, guess who shows up at our door. The dude who was never going to work there. Except he now worked there.

What happened? He applied for a job at another company, which hired him as a low level manager, and put him in charge of a project..... which our company was contracted to work on, and required he be stationed on site.

So not only did he work there now, but he was also in charge over the manager who's job he didn't get, and we had absolutely no choice in the matter because it was our biggest customer, without which more than 3/4ths of the business would be gone. It would have gutted the company basically to lose this customer.

So this guy had us by the balls, and he made sure to show us he knew it, because he would come in, check our work, file all the paperwork he had to, and then literally play video games, in full view of us, for the rest of the day. Funny story, but I never forgot the lesson. It was burned into my head 15 years ago.

Be very very careful who you say you won't work for. Your biggest customer could hire the guy you'd never work for, and tell you he's your new liaison with company. So unless you are a millionaire, and can pick and dump customers at will.... you don't know who might end up being the next person you have to deal with to complete the next contract. You just never know....

 

[Pogo]

Former Miss Turkey was convicted of insulting the President of Turkey ( at the time Prime Minister ) by posting a satirical poem about him and given fourteen month suspended sentence but could end up serving the entire sentence if she break the law again...

Since becoming President of Turkey President Erdogan has filed almost two thousand defamation cases by using a seldom used law...

Ex-Miss Turkey gets suspended sentence for insulting Erdogan

Turkey has become a worthless country to me...

What kind of narcissistic asshole president would be thin-skinned and insecure enough to piss away his time on juvenile vindictive wankitude like this?

Oh wait....

Not even close to comparable.

EXTREMELY close.
He sued one guy for estimating his worth lower than he liked to say it was.
He got an analyst fired for predicting that his casino would fail. Which it did.
To this day he refuses to admit to his own bankruptcies.
That link goes to endless tweets he stayed up all night whining about Megyn Kelly -- who is hardly the only recipient (see the "Mexican" judge in his fraud suit, Elizabeth Warren for two of the latest....
Finally, what makes it waaaay too close for comfort, is this:

​

---- That's Rump threatening to do EXACTLY the same thing as the story in the OP. Think about it.

Congrats, you actually gave me the first real thing Trump has said, that I agree with and support. I agree with him completely in that youtube clip. The media is in fact horrifically dishonest, and I think being able to sue them for all their lying crap, would be great.

Fantastic idea. I think the difference between my version of "freedom of the press" is that I think the press should be free to report, not free to lie. You want to go report that so and so said x and x. That's fine. You want to report that so and so, said something he never said, and supports stuff he never claimed to support.... I think you should be sued, sure.

Sorry, the courts have already ruled (in favor of Fox) that misrepresentation is not illegal, but that's another story and not the point here.

Since this entire revelation flew blithely over your ducking head, I'll have to spell it out --- watch Rump's adjectives here... he doesn't say anything about "lying" anyway; he describes subjective value judgments "purposely negative and horrible" and "a total disgrace" and "a hit piece". That means, for you slow kids in the back, that if he simply *DOESN'T LIKE* some story ---- and when has that ever happened that Donald Rump didn't like some revelation because it was inconvenient to his self-delusion ----- he can "sue them like they've never been sued before". Who can possibly say what is "disgusting"? Defamation, as in false claims (libel) is ALREADY illegal. He wants to completely morph that definition to suit his personal diaper rash.

In other words he wants to muzzle the public discourse down to only what he approves. And this is a juvenile narcissist who already melts down at the slightest challenge to his insatiable ego. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out the implications.

Exactly how fucked up is that?

 

[Mineva]

You cant insult people in Turkiye. President or an ordinary person, noone. Your freedom ends when you start to disturb others. All the citizens have equal right to live without being harrashed. If you have a problem with a person and if you think he-she makes something illegal, there are courts, go to a court, you cant insult.