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roomy said:I live in England and not Europe.
roomy said:It is only in the interest of the Uk as long as we deem it to be.Europe needs us more than we need it, always been the case, and as long as the US use our shores as an aircraft carrier long may it be so.You seem to forget or are ignorant of european history my friend.
roomy said:I live in England and not Europe.
roomy said:Are you completely insane?Had such an alliance occured can you imagine the carnage around the world, assuming of course as i suspect, you would hope we would adopt germany's final solution.The Nazis were hoping we would fall into line also if my history lessons and books serve me well?
Lie down and have a nap paddy.
onthefence said:I think the Hundered Years war is about to erupt again.
padisha emperor said:Personly, I don't care about UK's presence in EU, it's more like a weight.
If it's good for EU, then i agree to this presence. If not, I don't want it.
For the European history, UK's History on the european continent is only a struggle against several hegemonies. UK's choice was overseas. Not Europe. Since the UK's defeat during the 100 Years War.
Maybe it's the reason of the bad feeling of the British about EU. France's choices are since 1500 years for the continent, same for Germany... Maye it's why these countries are for EU.
If you're satisfied that your country is an US aircraft carrier, good for you. But this policy makes that a lot of european consider British more like foreigners in Europe. The US dogs. I appreciate the irony, the ex colony is now colonising the ex fatherland.
For the Europe History, you seems to not know it as well you think. Europe knows 1000 years of war between Nations, but these war, it's a paradox, reinforce the cooperation between these Nations.
the best thing for Europe would have been an alliance with France, UK, Germany (or a common State), it would have been good for these countries too.
padisha emperor said:...
France/UK together...Not a revolutionnary idea : look at the Angevine Empire, XIIIth...Or the project of a common State between France and United Kingdom in 1940, lead by Churchill and de Gaulle.
For Germany : why automaticly do you refer to the nazis ? First, what is allowing you to think that a such 3 nations-State would have given an horror with Nazis at power ?
And second, I never said that...
I only mentionned the fact that a cooperation between the leading States of Europe is a great thing, and maybe if in History these States would have cooperate, some things would have not been...Maybe it is wrong, but maybe not.
I give to you a Goodwin Point for your bright link with the Nazis and Final Solution...
padisha emperor said:...
France/UK together...Not a revolutionnary idea : look at the Angevine Empire, XIIIth...Or the project of a common State between France and United Kingdom in 1940, lead by Churchill and de Gaulle.
For Germany : why automaticly do you refer to the nazis ? First, what is allowing you to think that a such 3 nations-State would have given an horror with Nazis at power ?
And second, I never said that...
I only mentionned the fact that a cooperation between the leading States of Europe is a great thing, and maybe if in History these States would have cooperate, some things would have not been...Maybe it is wrong, but maybe not.
I give to you a Goodwin Point for your bright link with the Nazis and Final Solution...