HSchool Students Stranded in Afghanistan

[flacaltenn]

Probably a school trip. If they knew the Taliban were a threat I doubt they would be there.

Were YOU unaware that a month ago or so that the Taliban was a threat? Certainly, most every one at State or Homeland knew it and STILL APPROVED THE FUCKING VISAS.. There's your criminally insane right there..

 

[Augustine_]

Nope you're not thinking clearly still. The Biden Admin has FOCUSED on OVERTURNING EVERYTHING THAT TRUMP EVER DID.. So NOW you want me to believe that they were too chicken to MODIFY or REJECT Trumps timetable and agreements with the Taliban?

Biden did the final draw-down.. AT THAT POINT -- THE EVAC should have been in FULL SWING.. Was it? Not by a long shot.. 800 day approvals on SIVisas were STILL the norm. No advanced warnings to Americans in every corner of that parched country when they abandoned Bagram in the DEAD OF NIGHT so it was even a surprise to the AFGHAN PARTNERS working there..

You're a partisan tool who gets talking points instead of news -- so maybe some of this is news to you.. But you dont have a wooden leg to stand on..

You are shifting the goal posts. You blame Biden for not evacuating people who never willingly came to be evacuated during the 18 months they had while it was 100% safe. That was their choice. You do not provide for how we could go out to kidnap them against their will to evacuate them. That is the only way we could reach them unless they came willingly. You continue bringing up Bagram Air Force base despite not posting how evacuating people 70 kilometers there from Kabul is a better idea than evacuating them from Kabul directly.

Your new tactic is to blame Biden for not reneging on Trump's deal with the Taliban, even though doing so would restart the war at full speed. You say Biden was too chicken to modify it even though he modified it to buy people 3 1/2 more months to get out.

You are a partisan tool parroting talking points, while I am here with arguments that not a single person in the leftwing MSM or the rightwing MSM are using.

 

[flacaltenn]

Agreed, the withdrawal date was arbitrary. there was no rush to pull out all of our military before evacuation of Americans had begun. if we had more than one airfield available it would also have been much more easier to airlift civilians. that was all in our control.

Funny how ordinary people or folks with govt or military service just KNOW this.. But General "Thoroughly Modern" Millie was TOO BUSY defending CRTheory and trying to atone for his "whiteness" at the time..

MOST folks didn't even know he was Biden's head of Joint Chiefs before he went crazy viral and "got woke"..

 

[toobfreak]

If their parents voted for Biden, looks like you'll be giving up child brides and boys for bookee baaci or whatever

More bitches for the Taliban. Just hope they ain't LGBTQ.

 

[Bobob]

Probably not.. Different heads of Agencies at Homeland and State. Probably would have FOCUSED MASSIVE resources on ASSURING a smooth get-out.. To this Admin -- it looks like the "planning" was done during a HR seminar on "whiteness as a crime" or something.

Since trump was so disorganized and made decisions based on his "gut", I doubt that his planning would have teeth. After all, he made a "deal" with the Taliban and is now praising them. What a guy!
Does he really believe that the Taliban would live up to his arrangement? Let's not forget the 100,000 Kurds that he left for the Turks to murder. He just pulled our troops and walked away--typical trump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Who even let them in.

Southern California students and families stranded in Afghanistan

Several dozen schoolchildren and adult relatives, all Afghan refugees newly resettled in California, ended up stranded in Afghanistan after traveling back to their homeland over the summer to visit loved ones, San Diego-area school officials said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

They should have seen the writing on the wall. It's weird going back to a country after the US said it was pulling out and seeing Taliban advances.

 

[flacaltenn]

Does he really believe that the Taliban would live up to his arrangement?

No see -- real leadership is not operating on beliefs. He TOLD the Taliban leaders that if they harmed ONE American, the hell for them personally would be worse than what they could imagine. AND -- BECAUSE he took out Solemani and BECAUSE he fulfilled the promise of raining hell on Assad in Syria -- the Taliban BELIEVED IT and NO American was harmed going forward during the diplomatic efforts..

Unlike a weak and feeble president that just steals lines from G.W. Bush when we took 30 military casualties yesterday. A TERRORIST GROUP doesn't believe the threats. A terrorist group that Biden said 2 weeks ago DID NOT EXIST in a country that Biden said weeks ago, was not LIKELY to fall to the Taliban.

You SHOULD BE DEFENDING YOUR SIDE and giving the TDSydrome a rest here. THEY NEED your help. Because they are clueless and helpless..

 

[flacaltenn]

They should have seen the writing on the wall. It's weird going back to a country after the US said it was pulling out and seeing Taliban advances.

Not that weird.. Their home country was about to fall to terrorists. THey wanted to see their parents and grandparents there one last time before it did.. The criminally negligent in our govt should have told them it was too late and ordered them NOT to go. Or at least sign waivers removing the responsibility of US govt to protect them..

 

[bendog]

Not that weird.. Their home country was about to fall to terrorists. THey wanted to see their parents and grandparents there one last time before it did.. The criminally negligent in our govt should have told them it was too late and ordered them NOT to go. Or at least sign waivers removing the responsibility of US govt to protect them..

Why is it the govts responsibility?

 

[Bobob]

No see -- real leadership is not operating on beliefs. He TOLD the Taliban leaders that if they harmed ONE American, the hell for them personally would be worse than what they could imagine. AND -- BECAUSE he took out Solemani and BECAUSE he fulfilled the promise of raining hell on Assad in Syria -- the Taliban BELIEVED IT and NO American was harmed going forward during the diplomatic efforts..

Unlike a weak and feeble president that just steals lines from G.W. Bush when we took 30 military casualties yesterday. A TERRORIST GROUP doesn't believe the threats. A terrorist group that Biden said 2 weeks ago DID NOT EXIST in a country that Biden said weeks ago, was not LIKELY to fall to the Taliban.

You SHOULD BE DEFENDING YOUR SIDE and giving the TDSydrome a rest here. THEY NEED your help. Because they are clueless and helpless..

No see--Trump is clueless and helpless. He uses his large oral cavity to threaten and the Taliban
could give a shit about his toothless threats. He didn't leave so you don't know what they would have done, and since trump is a serial liar, you don't know what was said to the Taliban by trump. What he says and what he does are 2 different things. Biden is hardly clueless and helpless, and you don't know what kind of chaos would have occurred under trump at the airport, because nobody expected the mass of Afghans trying to get out all at once. Trump is today only and pragmatism was not a part of his repertoire since he never considered the unintended consequences of his actions. Grifters never do and that is why they get caught.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Not that weird.. Their home country was about to fall to terrorists. THey wanted to see their parents and grandparents there one last time before it did.. The criminally negligent in our govt should have told them it was too late and ordered them NOT to go. Or at least sign waivers removing the responsibility of US govt to protect them..

Well, if they have family in the country, and are from the country, they should know better than the US government.

 

[flacaltenn]

Well, if they have family in the country, and are from the country, they should know better than the US government.

Lots of us "knew better" about the dangers of visiting covid ridden hospitals when their loved ones were dying there.. Authorities over-rode their actions. Which do you prefer?

I know most of us are on the side of freedom. AND -- the Bozos in charge could have had them sign a WAIVER and then I do not care about their choice and its consequences..

MOST FOLKS over 40 KNOW -- WE DO NOT LEAVE AMERICANS BEHIND... So maybe their decision process was BASED on what this country ONCE WAS....

 

[Bobob]

Lots of us "knew better" about the dangers of visiting covid ridden hospitals when their loved ones were dying there.. Authorities over-rode their actions. Which do you prefer?

I know most of us are on the side of freedom. AND -- the Bozos in charge could have had them sign a WAIVER and then I do not care about their choice and its consequences..

MOST FOLKS over 40 KNOW -- WE DO NOT LEAVE AMERICANS BEHIND... So maybe their decision process was BASED on what this country ONCE WAS....

Which authorities? The hospitals where I live forbid visitors and have been right along.
Maybe in some southern states where trump supporters reside and governors are running for re-election, like in Florida.

 

[easyt65]

Who even let them in.

Southern California students and families stranded in Afghanistan

Several dozen schoolchildren and adult relatives, all Afghan refugees newly resettled in California, ended up stranded in Afghanistan after traveling back to their homeland over the summer to visit loved ones, San Diego-area school officials said on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

1. NO Americans are 'stranded'! Psaki said so.

2. If they don't make it out then, according to the Biden administration, they must have decided to stay.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Lots of us "knew better" about the dangers of visiting covid ridden hospitals when their loved ones were dying there.. Authorities over-rode their actions. Which do you prefer?

I know most of us are on the side of freedom. AND -- the Bozos in charge could have had them sign a WAIVER and then I do not care about their choice and its consequences..

MOST FOLKS over 40 KNOW -- WE DO NOT LEAVE AMERICANS BEHIND... So maybe their decision process was BASED on what this country ONCE WAS....

I think if Americans go to Afghanistan and know it's dangerous, that they do so at their own risk. The US doesn't control Afghanistan.

 

[Persuader]

California School Official Says Thousands of Students and Children Are Trapped in Afghanistan - Their Stories Will Start to Unfold in Coming Days | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hoft

There are still dozens of California children trapped in Afghanistan after Joe Biden’s hasty exit from the country.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Persuader]

What will happen to these students? Biden does not care....he has left it up to the taliban man to do what he wants with them.

Many of them will probably become sex slaves to the taliban fighters.