because of the way they are done, they can be manipulated to get a desired result.
Again, I apologize, I made the mistake of thinking that I was discussing this with reasonably intelligent and educated people.
You have yet to demonstrate your point. You're opinion doesn't matter, point to someone who has some credentials on the subject.
I do enjoy your argument. Pollsters are correct but they do it wrong so don't believe them.
Ok, lets try again one last time.
you, and your lib buddies, claim that a sample of 1000 out of 330,000,000 is valid and meaningful, right so far?
nope.
Now, lets take away 3 zeroes. What do we now have? a sample of 1 out of 330,000. Do you think that would be statistically valid?
irrelevant.
How about taking away 2 zeores. 10 out of 3,300,000. Would that be valid?
Why are you beginning at 330,000,000 to begin with?
in statistics its the ratio of sample size to total population that determines statistical significance.
Class over, dismissed.
You proved nothing. For starters you're using the wrong number to begin with, secondly at this point you need some back up, find a source that agrees with you. Third, you are now saying the polls are correct when previously you said they weren't but you still disagree with their methodology and you have yet to explain how they get it right?
You're argument is all over the place, tighten it up and provide some evidence, you're idea of common sense isn't good enough.