How will trump react to this?

[berg80]

Iran Releases 10 Points It Says Are Basis for Cease-fire Talks​

Iran publicly released on Wednesday what it said was the 10-point framework for talks that President Trump described as “a workable basis on which to negotiate” an end to the war. Much of it consisted of maximalist demands that look difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with U.S. aims.

A White House official said the points do not match what Mr. Trump was referring to. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House discussions.

Iran released its version of the proposal the morning after the United States and Iran agreed to a two-week cease-fire, and calls for American troops to leave the region, reasserts Iran’s control over the strategic Strait of Hormuz and maintains Iran’s right to nuclear enrichment.

Many of these demands are likely to conflict with a 15-point proposal U.S. mediators laid out last month.

That proposal was never made public, but officials briefed on the plan, who spoke to The New York Times on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive details, said it addressed Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear programs, as well as maritime trade. U.S. mediators had pushed in previous negotiations for limiting the range of Iran’s ballistic missiles and halting all of Iran’s nuclear enrichment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/middleeast/iran-10-point-proposal-trump-us-ceasefire.html

I'm concerned by this. Apparently, the new 10 point plan isn't the same one Iran proposed on Monday. If their position is not negotiable the problem with the Strait is not going to be permanently, or even temporarily resolved past the next two weeks.

There's no question Iran is at our mercy militarily. They seem not to care, viewing the Strait as their hole card. Maybe it's posturing. trump has certainly done plenty of that. I hope it is but fear it's not.

 

[martybegan]

Iran Releases 10 Points It Says Are Basis for Cease-fire Talks​

Iran publicly released on Wednesday what it said was the 10-point framework for talks that President Trump described as “a workable basis on which to negotiate” an end to the war. Much of it consisted of maximalist demands that look difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with U.S. aims.

A White House official said the points do not match what Mr. Trump was referring to. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House discussions.

Iran released its version of the proposal the morning after the United States and Iran agreed to a two-week cease-fire, and calls for American troops to leave the region, reasserts Iran’s control over the strategic Strait of Hormuz and maintains Iran’s right to nuclear enrichment.

Many of these demands are likely to conflict with a 15-point proposal U.S. mediators laid out last month.

That proposal was never made public, but officials briefed on the plan, who spoke to The New York Times on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive details, said it addressed Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear programs, as well as maritime trade. U.S. mediators had pushed in previous negotiations for limiting the range of Iran’s ballistic missiles and halting all of Iran’s nuclear enrichment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/middleeast/iran-10-point-proposal-trump-us-ceasefire.html

I'm concerned by this. Apparently, the new 10 point plan isn't the same one Iran proposed on Monday. If their position is not negotiable the problem with the Strait is not going to be permanently, or even temporarily resolved past the next two weeks.

There's no question Iran is at our mercy militarily. They seem not to care, viewing the Strait as their hole card. Maybe it's posturing. trump has certainly done plenty of that. I hope it is but fear it's not.

The response should be "**** off" in diplomat speak.

 

[Concerned American]

A White House official said the points do not match what Mr. Trump was referring to. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House discussions.

A WH official who spoke on the condition of anonymity? FAKE NEWS.

 

[Stryder50]

Iran Releases 10 Points It Says Are Basis for Cease-fire Talks​

Iran publicly released on Wednesday what it said was the 10-point framework for talks that President Trump described as “a workable basis on which to negotiate” an end to the war. Much of it consisted of maximalist demands that look difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with U.S. aims.

A White House official said the points do not match what Mr. Trump was referring to. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House discussions.

Iran released its version of the proposal the morning after the United States and Iran agreed to a two-week cease-fire, and calls for American troops to leave the region, reasserts Iran’s control over the strategic Strait of Hormuz and maintains Iran’s right to nuclear enrichment.

Many of these demands are likely to conflict with a 15-point proposal U.S. mediators laid out last month.

That proposal was never made public, but officials briefed on the plan, who spoke to The New York Times on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive details, said it addressed Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear programs, as well as maritime trade. U.S. mediators had pushed in previous negotiations for limiting the range of Iran’s ballistic missiles and halting all of Iran’s nuclear enrichment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/middleeast/iran-10-point-proposal-trump-us-ceasefire.html

I'm concerned by this. Apparently, the new 10 point plan isn't the same one Iran proposed on Monday. If their position is not negotiable the problem with the Strait is not going to be permanently, or even temporarily resolved past the next two weeks.

There's no question Iran is at our mercy militarily. They seem not to care, viewing the Strait as their hole card. Maybe it's posturing. trump has certainly done plenty of that. I hope it is but fear it's not.

NYTimes is a pay to view link.
I refuse to support a blatantly Left-wing pravda like NYT.
Do you have another, free access link to present?

 

[berg80]

1. An American guarantee of nonaggression with Iran.​

2. Iran maintains control of the Strait of Hormuz.​

3. Ending the regional war on all fronts, including against Iran’s ally, Hezbollah, in Lebanon.​

4. Withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from all bases and positions in the region.​

5. Reparations to Iran for war damages.​

6. Acceptance of Iran’s right to nuclear enrichment.​

7. Lifting all primary sanctions on Iran.​

8. Lifting all secondary sanctions on Iran.​

9. Termination of all resolutions against Iran by the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency.​

Last June, the U.N. nuclear watchdog passed a resolution against Iran for the first time in 20 years, saying that Iran was not complying with its nuclear nonproliferation obligations, a move Iran condemned as political.

Washington cannot force the I.A.E.A to repeal its resolutions, but it could perhaps pressure allied countries to do this as part of a comprehensive deal with Iran.

10. Termination of all United Nations Security Council resolutions against Iran.​

There is no way we are going to agree to those.

 

[berg80]

A WH official who spoke on the condition of anonymity? FAKE NEWS.

GFY.

 

[Concerned American]

GFY.

LOL, sure, that's a mature rebuttal when you get your butt handed to you, eh?

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump already responded dipshit. The 10 points are FAKE ass BS.

 

[berg80]

#7.

Washington has imposed on Iran different forms of primary sanctions, or direct restrictions on financial transactions, since the founding of the Islamic Republic after the 1979 revolution.

In previous negotiations, mediators aimed for U.S. officials to lift some sanctions in exchange for concessions on Iran’s nuclear program. Mr. Trump’s own statement on Wednesday touched on the idea of offering “Tariff and Sanctions relief.”

 

[Mac1958]

It's very difficult to believe that Iran would just roll over.

And I notice what a big deal is being made about a "regime change". With Trump, that usually means the opposite.

I don't care how much comical, over the top cheerleading Hegseth does on this. Let's see how things end up.

 

[berg80]

LOL, sure, that's a mature rebuttal when you get your butt handed to you, eh?

Was it mature? No. Does the article list every demand from Iran's list? Yes. Is your claim of fake news accurate? No.

How's that?

 

[berg80]

Let's see how things end up.

Those are the words trump lives by. He starts a war and then says, "We'll see how it goes."

 

[martybegan]

1. An American guarantee of nonaggression with Iran.​

2. Iran maintains control of the Strait of Hormuz.​

3. Ending the regional war on all fronts, including against Iran’s ally, Hezbollah, in Lebanon.​

4. Withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from all bases and positions in the region.​

5. Reparations to Iran for war damages.​

6. Acceptance of Iran’s right to nuclear enrichment.​

7. Lifting all primary sanctions on Iran.​

8. Lifting all secondary sanctions on Iran.​

9. Termination of all resolutions against Iran by the Board of Governors of the International Atomic Energy Agency.​

Last June, the U.N. nuclear watchdog passed a resolution against Iran for the first time in 20 years, saying that Iran was not complying with its nuclear nonproliferation obligations, a move Iran condemned as political.

Washington cannot force the I.A.E.A to repeal its resolutions, but it could perhaps pressure allied countries to do this as part of a comprehensive deal with Iran.

10. Termination of all United Nations Security Council resolutions against Iran.​

There is no way we are going to agree to those.

1. When the Shah takes over a nice Constitutional Monarchy, sure.
2. See item 1.
3. No
4. No
5. No, but once a new government takes over we will help rebuild.
6. No
7. Once the new government takes over
8. See item 7
9. See item 7
10. See item 7

 

[Concerned American]

Was it mature? No. Does the article list every demand from Iran's list? Yes. Is your claim of fake news accurate? No.

How's that?

This is ACCURATE news, Bug, complete with named sources.

Saudi Arabia intercepts drone attack after voicing support for Trump-Iran ceasefire deal​

The Saudi Arabian government said it intercepted and destroyed nine drones on Wednesday despite President Donald Trump's ceasefire deal with Iran.
A spokesperson for the Ministry of Defense announced the interception and destruction of nine drones over the past hours. Meanwhile, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs championed the ceasefire deal.
"The Foreign Ministry expresses the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's welcome of the announcement by President Donald Trump of the United States of America and the Prime Minister of Pakistan Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif of the ceasefire agreement reached between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran," the ministry said in a statement. "The Kingdom commends the productive efforts undertaken by the Prime Minister and the Chief of Army Staff and Chief of Defense Forces of Pakistan, Field Marshal Asim Munir, in reaching this agreement."
The regime in Tehran has launched retaliatory strikes toward Saudi Arabia and other neighboring countries in the Middle East since the beginning of Operation Epic Fury.

Live Updates: President Trump vows 'positive action' as ceasefire agreement with Iran reached

World leaders from Israel, Germany and the U.K. are praising President Donald Trump’s ceasefire with Iran. Trump says the U.S. "will be helping with the traffic buildup in the Strait of Hormuz."

www.foxnews.com

 

[berg80]

This is ACCURATE news, Bug, complete with named sources.

Saudi Arabia intercepts drone attack after voicing support for Trump-Iran ceasefire deal​

The Saudi Arabian government said it intercepted and destroyed nine drones on Wednesday despite President Donald Trump's ceasefire deal with Iran.
A spokesperson for the Ministry of Defense announced the interception and destruction of nine drones over the past hours. Meanwhile, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs championed the ceasefire deal.
"The Foreign Ministry expresses the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia's welcome of the announcement by President Donald Trump of the United States of America and the Prime Minister of Pakistan Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif of the ceasefire agreement reached between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran," the ministry said in a statement. "The Kingdom commends the productive efforts undertaken by the Prime Minister and the Chief of Army Staff and Chief of Defense Forces of Pakistan, Field Marshal Asim Munir, in reaching this agreement."
The regime in Tehran has launched retaliatory strikes toward Saudi Arabia and other neighboring countries in the Middle East since the beginning of Operation Epic Fury.

Live Updates: President Trump vows 'positive action' as ceasefire agreement with Iran reached

World leaders from Israel, Germany and the U.K. are praising President Donald Trump’s ceasefire with Iran. Trump says the U.S. "will be helping with the traffic buildup in the Strait of Hormuz."

www.foxnews.com

Thanks for helping me make the point the ceasefire is tenuous.

 

[martybegan]

Thanks for helping me make the point the ceasefire is tenuous.

Which is the inherent nature of a cease-fire....you moron.

 

[berg80]

This is ACCURATE news

Would you like to make a gentleman's bet on whether the Times reporting is accurate?

 

[marvin martian]

Iran Releases 10 Points It Says Are Basis for Cease-fire Talks​

Iran publicly released on Wednesday what it said was the 10-point framework for talks that President Trump described as “a workable basis on which to negotiate” an end to the war. Much of it consisted of maximalist demands that look difficult, if not impossible, to reconcile with U.S. aims.

A White House official said the points do not match what Mr. Trump was referring to. The official spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal White House discussions.

Iran released its version of the proposal the morning after the United States and Iran agreed to a two-week cease-fire, and calls for American troops to leave the region, reasserts Iran’s control over the strategic Strait of Hormuz and maintains Iran’s right to nuclear enrichment.

Many of these demands are likely to conflict with a 15-point proposal U.S. mediators laid out last month.

That proposal was never made public, but officials briefed on the plan, who spoke to The New York Times on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive details, said it addressed Iran’s ballistic missile and nuclear programs, as well as maritime trade. U.S. mediators had pushed in previous negotiations for limiting the range of Iran’s ballistic missiles and halting all of Iran’s nuclear enrichment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/middleeast/iran-10-point-proposal-trump-us-ceasefire.html

I'm concerned by this. Apparently, the new 10 point plan isn't the same one Iran proposed on Monday. If their position is not negotiable the problem with the Strait is not going to be permanently, or even temporarily resolved past the next two weeks.

There's no question Iran is at our mercy militarily. They seem not to care, viewing the Strait as their hole card. Maybe it's posturing. trump has certainly done plenty of that. I hope it is but fear it's not.

When did you people start uncritically accepting as fact whatever the Islamic Theocracy of Iran says?

You're more obedient than the people who live there and will be murdered for disagreeing with the mullahs.

 

[berg80]

LOL, sure, that's a mature rebuttal when you get your butt handed to you, eh?

Here's your butt being handed to you.

The U.S. and Iran have agreed to a two-week ceasefire as both sides engage in talks to secure a wider peace agreement Wednesday.

Iran has proposed a 10-point plan and shared it with President Donald Trump, who said it represents a "workable basis on which to negotiate." The White House says that plan differs with the one Iranian officials released to the public on Wednesday, however, according to the New York Times.

The publicly available plan demands that the U.S. end all primary and secondary sanctions against Tehran, as well as that Iran receive full control over the Strait of Hormuz. The plan also demands an end to U.S. attacks on Iran and its allies, a withdrawal of U.S. forces from the Middle East, the release of frozen Iranian assets and a United Nations resolution stating that the agreement will be binding.

Iran reveals 10-point plan for peace with the US – here's what's in it

The U.S. and Iran agreed to a two-week ceasefire as Iran shares a 10-point plan demanding sanctions relief and the right to enrich uranium.

www.foxnews.com

I don't think a fake news outlet like Faux does the NYT any favors by quoting it.

 

[22lcidw]

Here's your butt being handed to you.

The U.S. and Iran have agreed to a two-week ceasefire as both sides engage in talks to secure a wider peace agreement Wednesday.

Iran has proposed a 10-point plan and shared it with President Donald Trump, who said it represents a "workable basis on which to negotiate." The White House says that plan differs with the one Iranian officials released to the public on Wednesday, however, according to the New York Times.

The publicly available plan demands that the U.S. end all primary and secondary sanctions against Tehran, as well as that Iran receive full control over the Strait of Hormuz. The plan also demands an end to U.S. attacks on Iran and its allies, a withdrawal of U.S. forces from the Middle East, the release of frozen Iranian assets and a United Nations resolution stating that the agreement will be binding.

Iran reveals 10-point plan for peace with the US – here's what's in it

The U.S. and Iran agreed to a two-week ceasefire as Iran shares a 10-point plan demanding sanctions relief and the right to enrich uranium.

www.foxnews.com

I don't think a fake news outlet like Faux does the NYT any favors by quoting it.

Trump threw that plan in the trash.