Zone1 How we repair it: White Americans’ attitudes toward reparations

[IM2]

show me when any 'reparation' has solved racism

~S~

Did you ask any other group to do that?

No. So don't ask me to.

What reparations will do is create a huge economic stimulus. But many whites can't see that.

 

[IM2]

The horrible mistake of maintaining slavery in the Republic led to the horrible resolution of the institution. The price in blood and treasure was enormous. If that payment then was not enough, handing out money today to people long removed from that institution certainly will not be enough, either.
The social programs provided for generations to the minority whose ancestors were affected by slavery don't seem to have solved things, either. So, money alone is clearly not the answer. The keystone would appear to be other than "giving a person a fish", but rather teaching useful skills.

There were no social programs provided just for minorities over ANY generation.

 

[IM2]

Reparations?

No concern at all.

I'm more concerned on how you repair the systemic criminal black community so they can be lived with in a peaceful America.

Since whites commit more crime fix that.

 

[IM2]

But the most discriminatory were just passed and you say NOTHING.

Biden Raises Costs for Homebuyers With Good Credit to Help Risky Borrowers​

and of course that is destroying the market

Anorther stupid white right wing idiot.

 

[BackAgain]

The only reason why blacks have more abortions is they don't have easy access to other forms of contraception.

Contraception is good. Family planning is the best poverty relief program out there.

lol. Blacks don’t have access as readily as others to condoms?

I wonder how many black peoples you charlatan libs offend when puke your mindlessness.

 

[BackAgain]

Since whites commit more crime fix that.

Per capita?

 

[BackAgain]

Did you ask any other group to do that?

No. So don't ask me to.

What reparations will do is create a huge economic stimulus. But many whites can't see that.

Lol

Who pays for it? Will their own economic situations be stimulated?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You are stupid. There is no talking down of blacks done by me. But the racist makes ludicrous claims as he or she tries to gaslight.

So you have no idea how to access contraception?

JoeB131 said:
The only reason why blacks have more abortions is they don't have easy access to other forms of contraception.

 

[BackAgain]

So you have no idea how to access contraception?

Now we understand how they claim it is “racist” to demand Voter ID.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

120 billion 1950s dollars--or more than 1.239 quintillion 2019 dollars—were invested to subsidize and create white-American wealth through homeownership...

120 billion in 1950 is worth about $1.3 trillion in 2019.
Liberal math is bad, black math is much, much worse.
Teach your fellow blacks more math and less whining.

It will help them much more.

 

[IM2]

It seems you know nothing about Blacks, I don't take your picture as proof.
THREE HUGE errors that totally escape you

1) ABORTION Is what is killing the Black culture and Blacks are doing it to themselves (though racism is rife throughout Planned Parenthood)
"“Since the number of current living blacks(in the U.S.) is 31 million, the missing 10 million representsan enormous loss for, without abortion, America’s black community would now number 41 million persons. It wouldbe 35 percent larger than it is currently. Abortion has swept through the black community cutting down every fourth member."

2) "The historians John Thornton and Linda Heywood of Boston University estimate that 90 percent of those shipped to the New World were enslaved by Africans and then sold to European traders. The sad truth is that without complex business partnerships between African elites and European traders and commercial agents, the slave trade to the New World would have been impossible"

3) You are asking the same government that engineered the destruction of the Black Family (so said Sen Moynihan, a DEMOCRAT) to 'help'
Despite the grand myth that black economic progress began or accelerated with the passage of the civil rights laws and “war on poverty” programs of the 1960s, the cold fact is that the poverty rate among blacks fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent by 1960. This was before any of those programs began.

Over the next 20 years, the poverty rate among blacks fell another 18 percentage points, compared to the 40-point drop in the previous 20 years. This was the continuation of a previous economic trend, at a slower rate of progress, not the economic grand deliverance proclaimed by liberals and self-serving black “leaders.”

…..

Nearly a hundred years of the supposed “legacy of slavery” found most black children [78%] being raised in two-parent families in 1960. But thirty years after the liberal welfare state found the great majority of black children being raised by a single parent [66%].

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You could not be a better enemy of Blacks than you are even if unwittingly

First off, the welfare state started in 1910 and blacks were excluded.

Let’s talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded. Aid to Dependent Children functioned mainly to provide federal grants to help the states with mothers’ aid laws that began in 1910.

The ADC plan was written by two ladies who had been former directors of what was at the time called the U.S. Children’s Bureau. The Children’s Bureau’s goal was to provide aid to all children whose mothers had no support from a husband no matter how they got into that position. From the Children's Bureau in 1910 until 1965, no one talked about how the welfare state was wrong and created the disintegration of the white family. I read no lectures about the irresponsible white father. The program was not denigrated as something creating dependence on government; it was seen as essential assistance needed to help women without husbands who had children. Only when the law required that others besides whites be included did the story change to how the welfare state was wrong and destructive.

You argue based in the right wing race hustle. The Moynihan Report was debunked nearly from the start. The assessments of black right wing "thinkers" such as Sowell have also been debunked.

"In 1965, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National Action, attributed racial inequality as well as poverty and crime in the black community to family structure, particularly the prevalence of families headed by single mothers. Not only did research at the time cast doubt on this causality, but evidence over the last the 50 years demonstrates that rates of child poverty, educational attainment, and crime do not track rates of single parenthood. Thus, even though the share of children living with a single mother rose for all racial and ethnic groups through the mid-1990s and has remained high since then, school completion and youth arrests for violent crimes have declined significantly, while poverty rates have fluctuated according to economic conditions. Family structure does not drive racial inequity, and racial inequity persists regardless of family structure."
-Amy Traub, Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede and Thomas Shapiro, DEMOS, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.”

In 2017, Demos published a study titled, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.” On page 10 this statement is written: "The median white single parent has 2.2 times more wealth than the median black two-parent household and 1.9 times more wealth than the median Latino two-parent household." It is time to stop denying the real problem. Black difficulties have nothing to do with a man sitting in a house with his wife and children.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Now we understand how they claim it is “racist” to demand Voter ID.

That might explain it.

Clearly, IM2 , the Pied Piper of Reparations, is on board the Low Expectation train

JoeB131 said:
The only reason why blacks have more abortions is they don't have easy access to other forms of contraception.

...and IM2 does a Frank Pentangele, "Yeah, sure!"

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It’s funny when old white MAGAtards tell blacks what’s good for them.

LOL

Not as funny as what old white liberals do to help blacks.

 

[Vastator]

Since whites commit more crime fix that.

Per Capita strikes again...

 

[IM2]

So you have no idea how to access contraception?

JoeB131 said:
The only reason why blacks have more abortions is they don't have easy access to other forms of contraception.

The problem with you idiots is that you can't get your lies straight. Backs are having huge number of illegitimate children on one hand and record numbers of abortions on th other.

You guys always drift off into this stupidy. The problem for blacks nOw is a matter of economics. A two parent home earning poverty wages doesn't solve the problem. Zero abortions do not solve this problem. What reparations will do is create the wealth and economic development needed in the black community. This is the solution.

 

[BackAgain]

First off, the welfare state started in 1910 and blacks were excluded.

Let’s talk about the assistance to single women with children part of the Social Security Act. Title 4 or IV provided grants to states as Aid To Dependent Children. Eventually the name of the program was changed to Aid to Families with Dependent Children. This was welfare folks. Assistance for single moms with children and no daddy at home. In 1935. Blacks were excluded.

Nonsense.

 

[JoeB131]

Don't have access to contraception??

You're worse than IM2 for talking down expectations of blacks

Just the reality.

Why Black women are especially underserved when it comes to birth control access

Discrimination, stigma and systemic barriers in the health care system have already led to a gap in contraceptive access for Black women.

www.nbcnews.com

“The hardest burden is going to largely fall on Black women who already have insurmountable challenges just getting health care in this country,” Jennifer Driver, senior director of reproductive rights for the State Innovation Exchange, a national resource and strategy center, said about the impact of the decision. “And now it’s going to be even harder.”


Black women disproportionately deal with a number of reproductive health challenges, like fibroids and polycystic ovary syndrome, where contraception or reproductive surgery is necessary, said Dr. Brandi Shah, a family physician practicing in Birmingham, Alabama.

Following Friday’s decision, Shah said that health care providers need to prepare for the potential heightened demand of birth control. Getting more trained providers — especially those who understand the historical traumas experienced by people of color, which may influence their contraceptive choices — mitigating myths and misperceptions, along with providing contraceptive support and guidance are also crucial, she added.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Just the reality.

Why Black women are especially underserved when it comes to birth control access

Discrimination, stigma and systemic barriers in the health care system have already led to a gap in contraceptive access for Black women.

www.nbcnews.com

“The hardest burden is going to largely fall on Black women who already have insurmountable challenges just getting health care in this country,” Jennifer Driver, senior director of reproductive rights for the State Innovation Exchange, a national resource and strategy center, said about the impact of the decision. “And now it’s going to be even harder.”


Black women disproportionately deal with a number of reproductive health challenges, like fibroids and polycystic ovary syndrome, where contraception or reproductive surgery is necessary, said Dr. Brandi Shah, a family physician practicing in Birmingham, Alabama.

Following Friday’s decision, Shah said that health care providers need to prepare for the potential heightened demand of birth control. Getting more trained providers — especially those who understand the historical traumas experienced by people of color, which may influence their contraceptive choices — mitigating myths and misperceptions, along with providing contraceptive support and guidance are also crucial, she added.

You said they couldn't get contraception!

JoeB131 said:
The only reason why blacks have more abortions is they don't have easy access to other forms of contraception.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The problem with you idiots is that you can't get your lies straight. Backs are having huge number of illegitimate children on one hand and record numbers of abortions on th other.

You guys always drift off into this stupidy. The problem for blacks nOw is a matter of economics. A two parent home earning poverty wages doesn't solve the problem. Zero abortions do not solve this problem. What reparations will do is create the wealth and economic development needed in the black community. This is the solution.

So you agree with?

JoeB131 said:
The only reason why blacks have more abortions is they don't have easy access to other forms of contraception.

 

[JoeB131]

You said they couldn't get contraception!

JoeB131 said:
The only reason why blacks have more abortions is they don't have easy access to other forms of contraception.

Do you have some kind of reading disability?