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Fake pretend intellectuals like unkotare crack me up.
How to Avoid a Discussion on the Race Relations Forum
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Fake pretend intellectuals like unkotare crack me up.
Oh you’re teaching us how to avoid a discussion. You are the master of this coward.
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Watching television you would think that black ghettos in the big cities are the poorest and most dangerous parts of America. Well, it is not quite that simple.
In 2007 the four precincts in New York City with the worst rates of major crimes were these:
True, taken as a whole the black and Hispanic parts of the city have a higher crime rate than the white and Asian parts. But each part of the city is different. You cannot just go by race or even poverty or even the two together. For example:
Likewise, here are the five poorest parts of America:
Most people do not even think about these places because you hardly ever see them on television or even hear much about them in school.
The reason black ghettos star on television is because they are the main example of poverty – and of Black America too – if you live in the two places where most of American television comes from: Hollywood and New York.
Most poor people are white. Most poor people do not live in cities, but in places where reporters and film-makers hardly ever go.
And, just as you almost never see the poor Indian reservations on television, so you barely ever see black suburbia either – further strengthening the idea that most black people are poor and most poor people are black, neither of which is true.
And even when television does present poverty it rarely explains it. So people think what they want about bootstraps and all that – a comfortable thing to believe if you are middle-class or rich.
Television is not a mirror of American society. It is not even an imperfect mirror. Television is the creation of a very small number of people – most of them white, male, liberal and well-to-do – who have their own ideas about America. Many of those ideas are not true and many come from yet older Hollywood output, so the thing feeds on itself.
But their picture of America becomes our picture of America – even if the little bit of America that we know first-hand is nothing like what we see on television.
In 2007 the four precincts in New York City with the worst rates of major crimes were these:
- Bed-Stuy
- East Harlem
- Midtown South (42nd to 34th Street)
- Lower East Side
True, taken as a whole the black and Hispanic parts of the city have a higher crime rate than the white and Asian parts. But each part of the city is different. You cannot just go by race or even poverty or even the two together. For example:
- The middle of Harlem, which is mainly black, is safer than Midtown Manhattan, which is mainly white – and far richer.
- In the late 1980s Jamaica, Queens and Harlem were both mainly black, but Jamaica had way more of a black middle-class – and yet it was far more violent.
Likewise, here are the five poorest parts of America:
- Indian reservations
- South-west Texas
- The middle of Alaska
- The Mississippi Delta
- Appalachia
Most people do not even think about these places because you hardly ever see them on television or even hear much about them in school.
The reason black ghettos star on television is because they are the main example of poverty – and of Black America too – if you live in the two places where most of American television comes from: Hollywood and New York.
Most poor people are white. Most poor people do not live in cities, but in places where reporters and film-makers hardly ever go.
And, just as you almost never see the poor Indian reservations on television, so you barely ever see black suburbia either – further strengthening the idea that most black people are poor and most poor people are black, neither of which is true.
And even when television does present poverty it rarely explains it. So people think what they want about bootstraps and all that – a comfortable thing to believe if you are middle-class or rich.
Television is not a mirror of American society. It is not even an imperfect mirror. Television is the creation of a very small number of people – most of them white, male, liberal and well-to-do – who have their own ideas about America. Many of those ideas are not true and many come from yet older Hollywood output, so the thing feeds on itself.
But their picture of America becomes our picture of America – even if the little bit of America that we know first-hand is nothing like what we see on television.
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That's a very good question.
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That's the way idiots like you imagine things to be but who made the laws that created the problems?
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You all are too afraid of debate.
NewsVine_Mariyam
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I've already explained that it's not MY chart. You were the one who stated "the time for debate is long past" which is why I attempted to find a mechanism which can be used to discuss the subject matter that is less confrontation and allegedly designed to be more productive. I don't understand why you seem to be taking this so personally.
How are the whites responsible for today’s poor black communities?
What things should the federal government do to help correct the wrongs of the past and present?
That is more words than you normally use. Usually your posts are like "not true" "you're a pinhead" etc.
If you got something to say let’s hear it
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I don't take anything here personally. I will point out bullshit though.
When unkotare asks who’s we, slyhunter is one of the people I’m referring to unkotare. He seems to notice too that you’re almost incapable of having a normal conversation. What gives?
NewsVine_Mariyam
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So you don't have anything to contribute? Thus far the only thing you've done is deflect and reject every idea of how we might engage in a meaningful and less contentious "discussion" on race relations. I mean is it really all that offensive to expect people engaging in a "discussion" to be able to explain why they believe or feel the way they do?
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