How phony are the covid numbers of deaths?

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
Of course.

How can they maintain the panic -- which is essential to keeping the training of servitude alive -- if the numbers are as dire or spooky as possible?

They cannot justify their power grab unless the people are willing to hand over their sovereignty.
 

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It's a safe bet that if someone is exposed and later dies from typical symptoms that they died from the virus. Perhaps we should waste tests on dead people just to be sure?
 

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The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
Proving that lack of testing is the primary reason for underestimating the death and destruction caused by Trump's MAGA virus:

America’s COVID-19 testing has stalled, and that’s a big problem
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
about as phony as the number of H1N1 deaths....

Problem is....I don't recall any conspiracies back then asserting that healthcare professionals were "faking" the numbers of deaths to make Obama look bad


Only delusional conservatives do that type of dumb shit
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
about as phony as the number of H1N1 deaths....

Problem is....I don't recall any conspiracies back then asserting that healthcare professionals were "faking" the numbers of deaths to make Obama look bad


Only delusional conservatives do that type of dumb shit
Trump wasnt president then. The One who gave a thrill down the leg of supposedly hetero leftist men was president. They were there to HELP his presidency, not destroy it.
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
More misinformation from the right.


I wish Republicans would continue to go to Trump rallies.
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
about as phony as the number of H1N1 deaths....

Problem is....I don't recall any conspiracies back then asserting that healthcare professionals were "faking" the numbers of deaths to make Obama look bad


Only delusional conservatives do that type of dumb shit
Trump wasnt president then. The One who gave a thrill down the leg of supposedly hetero leftist men was president. They were there to HELP his presidency, not destroy it.
Yes, Obama was president then...

And even Fox News were not claiming the dumb shit they are claiming now..

Nor was Obama claiming the number of deaths were faked to make him look bad -- nor did he claim coverage of the H1N1 outbreak is a Republican hoax...


Years from now, you dic suckers will be looking like the morons who kept twisting themselves into pretzels to justify why invading Iraq was a brilliant idea
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
about as phony as the number of H1N1 deaths....

Problem is....I don't recall any conspiracies back then asserting that healthcare professionals were "faking" the numbers of deaths to make Obama look bad


Only delusional conservatives do that type of dumb shit
Trump wasnt president then. The One who gave a thrill down the leg of supposedly hetero leftist men was president. They were there to HELP his presidency, not destroy it.
Yes, Obama was president then...

And even Fox News were not claiming the dumb shit they are claiming now..

Nor was Obama claiming the number of deaths were faked to make him look bad -- nor did he claim coverage of the H1N1 outbreak is a Republican hoax...


Years from now, you dic suckers will be looking like the morons who kept twisting themselves into pretzels to justify why invading Iraq was a brilliant idea
Don't count on them admitting they were wrong. To this day they still insist there were WMD's in Iraq even though Trump himself admitted there were none and they lied. They won't dare argue with him about it but here they will push back. He said it at a GOP campaign rally when he was running against all the other Republicans and although most of them had cognitive dissonance on the subject when he said it, they still voted for him.
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
about as phony as the number of H1N1 deaths....

Problem is....I don't recall any conspiracies back then asserting that healthcare professionals were "faking" the numbers of deaths to make Obama look bad


Only delusional conservatives do that type of dumb shit
Trump wasnt president then. The One who gave a thrill down the leg of supposedly hetero leftist men was president. They were there to HELP his presidency, not destroy it.
Yes, Obama was president then...

And even Fox News were not claiming the dumb shit they are claiming now..

Nor was Obama claiming the number of deaths were faked to make him look bad -- nor did he claim coverage of the H1N1 outbreak is a Republican hoax...


Years from now, you dic suckers will be looking like the morons who kept twisting themselves into pretzels to justify why invading Iraq was a brilliant idea
The right were not trying to destroy Obama using any means necessary to remove him from office.

Today, the vile, mouth-foaming hatred of Trump drives these people to do things, anything, regardless of how unethical, to destroy Trump.

In addition, had Obama tried to take the civil liberties of the citizens away from them, you can bet that the numbers of the H1N1 would have been scrutinized.

In fact, when the time and opportunity presents itself, those numbers SHOULD be reevaluated.

As it stands right now, the numbers for covid-19 are more than just suspect. They are outright wrong. Deliberately so and for one specific reason.
 

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So what is it?

Is our President lying about the number of deaths?
 

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To this day they still insist there were WMD's in Iraq even though Trump himself admitted there were none and they lied
Trump never said it was a "lie." Again YOU PEOPLE LIE
Either you are misinformed or a liar.

Donald Trump on Fox News denied that he ever accused President George W. Bush of lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. “I didn’t say lie,” Trump said. “I said he may have lied.” That’s false. Trump at least twice — most recently in a debate last month — said Bush “lied.”

in South Carolina, debate moderator John Dickerson asked Trump about an October 2008 interview in which Trump said it would have been a “wonderful thing” if Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi tried to impeach Bush because he lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Asked if he still believes that Bush should have been impeached, Trump called the Iraq war a “big fat mistake.” Pressed again for an answer, Trump went on to say, “They lied.”

Trump, Feb. 13: You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you. They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction; there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.
As for his 2008 comments, Trump said of Bush in an interview with CNN, “He lied. He got us into the war with lies.” Wolf Blitzer, host of CNN’s “The Situation Room,” pushed back, saying Bush administration officials argue that the intelligence they received was wrong — not that they lied. “I don’t believe that,” Trump responded.

 

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Bush did not LIE. Any more than President Clinton or Hillary or all the others "lied."

They were going by the information they were given by the Swamp that you guys now love and respect.

If Trump said that, he was mistaken
 

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Phony covid death numbers

Dr. Scott Jensen is both a physician and a Minnesota state senator. Yesterday he was interviewed by a local television station and dropped a bombshell: he, and presumably all other Minnesota doctors, got a seven-page letter from the Minnesota Department of Health that gave guidance on how to classify COVID-19 deaths. The letter said that if a patient died of, e.g., pneumonia, and was believed to have been exposed to COVID-19, the death certificate should say that COVID-19 was the cause of death even though the patient was never tested, or never tested positive, for that disease.
about as phony as the number of H1N1 deaths....

Problem is....I don't recall any conspiracies back then asserting that healthcare professionals were "faking" the numbers of deaths to make Obama look bad


Only delusional conservatives do that type of dumb shit
Trump wasnt president then. The One who gave a thrill down the leg of supposedly hetero leftist men was president. They were there to HELP his presidency, not destroy it.
Yes, Obama was president then...

And even Fox News were not claiming the dumb shit they are claiming now..

Nor was Obama claiming the number of deaths were faked to make him look bad -- nor did he claim coverage of the H1N1 outbreak is a Republican hoax...


Years from now, you dic suckers will be looking like the morons who kept twisting themselves into pretzels to justify why invading Iraq was a brilliant idea
Don't count on them admitting they were wrong. To this day they still insist there were WMD's in Iraq even though Trump himself admitted there were none and they lied. They won't dare argue with him about it but here they will push back. He said it at a GOP campaign rally when he was running against all the other Republicans and although most of them had cognitive dissonance on the subject when he said it, they still voted for him.
Indeed, the cardinal sin for the typical republican is to admit they were wrong about anything....especially if it means conceding that a "liberal" was right.......and if they do admit fault, it is always "we were not conservative enough" -- which basically translates to "We were not assholes enough"...
 

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To this day they still insist there were WMD's in Iraq even though Trump himself admitted there were none and they lied
Trump never said it was a "lie." Again YOU PEOPLE LIE
I just showed you Trump did in fact say Bush lied. So you can admit you were wrong and apologize or prove Republicans don't even care if they are wrong.

He tried to walk it back but push come to shove he said HE LIED.

I dare you Republicans to debate Trump on what he said. He will walk it back a bit but I would love to see him be forced to say he was wro wron wrong. It would be the first. Would he do it for fear of losing votes? I don't think so. I think he'd stick with his comments because most of you will vote for him no matter what. And him admitting Bush lied probably won a bunch of moderates over. A bunch of former Republicans who left the party because Bush lied us into Iraq. Trump saying Bush lied probably won more votes than it lost.

Hell, you don't even remember Trump said it. See?
 

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Bush did not LIE. Any more than President Clinton or Hillary or all the others "lied."

They were going by the information they were given by the Swamp that you guys now love and respect.

If Trump said that, he was mistaken
This is why I have zero respect for these idiotic Trump sycophants...

You know damn well Trump said that.......
 

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Bush did not LIE. Any more than President Clinton or Hillary or all the others "lied."

They were going by the information they were given by the Swamp that you guys now love and respect.

If Trump said that, he was mistaken
This is why I have zero respect for these idiotic Trump sycophants...

You know damn well Trump said that.......
Believe me, the feeling is mutual


The specialist swabbed the shell with chemical detection paper. It turned red — indicating sulfur mustard, the chemical warfare agent designed to burn a victim’s airway, skin and eyes.

All three men recall an awkward pause. Then Sergeant Duling gave an order: “Get the hell out.”

Five years after President George W. Bush sent troops into Iraq, these soldiers had entered an expansive but largely secret chapter of America’s long and bitter involvement in Iraq.

From 2004 to 2011, American and American-trained Iraqi troops repeatedly encountered, and on at least six occasions were wounded by, chemical weapons remaining from years earlier in Saddam Hussein’s rule
 

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