How long can Christopher Wray last as FBI director?

[DrLove]

I’m glad you believe nunes’ hit piece. That’s kind of your problem. Me? I look forward to his perp walk.

And he just may get one of those for multiple instances of Obstruction of Justice

Nunes could face obstruction charges: Expert says colluding with White House nullifies congressional immunity

Damn straight, I love speculative articles.

Cool - And I love Perp Walks ... Win WIN!!

 

[Doc1]

I’m glad you believe nunes’ hit piece. That’s kind of your problem. Me? I look forward to his perp walk.

And he just may get one of those for multiple instances of Obstruction of Justice

Nunes could face obstruction charges: Expert says colluding with White House nullifies congressional immunity

Damn straight, I love speculative articles.

Cool - And I love Perp Walks ... Win WIN!!

Eisen is an Obama guy (rolling eyes)

 

[DrLove]

There was a time when the radical left absolutely hated the FBI and now for some reason they are rooting for the new director. The short answer is that the President will fire any FBI director who attempts to undermine the administration with bogus surveillance warrants and fake memos.

There was a time when the radical right was all about law, order and supporting US law enforcement and intel.

My how times change

 

[Doc1]

There was a time when the radical left absolutely hated the FBI and now for some reason they are rooting for the new director. The short answer is that the President will fire any FBI director who attempts to undermine the administration with bogus surveillance warrants and fake memos.

There was a time when the radical right was all about law, order and supporting US law enforcement and intel.

My how times change

It's about being against Law Enforcement, it's about possible malfeasance committed by them. Which has clearly occurred in Hillary's case.

 

[basquebromance]

"We owe a debt to James Comey for providing more evidence every day that Trump's only mistake in firing his whiny ass was not doing it sooner." - Wacky Ann Coulter

 

[DrLove]

It's about being against Law Enforcement, it's about possible malfeasance committed by them. Which has clearly occurred in Hillary's case.

And yet you cared ZIPPO-BUPKIS about the cop who shot dead the 12 year old black kid playing in a Cleveland park with a pellet gun by a dude labeled and fired by his previous supervisor as "distracted and weepy".

Amazing

Cop who shot Tamir Rice called 'distracted and weepy' - CNN

 

[tyroneweaver]

another hypothetical thread posted as fact.
My goodness

Where was anything posted as fact?

The DC rumor mill is already talking about Wray threatening to quit.

But it’s amusing seeing the people who spread every type of lie trump tweets as gospel suddenly concerned with hypotheticLs.

Confeve

wow
I take 40whiner on by what he said, and you lump me in with what others say.
btw, 4900 didn't say he would quit. Those are your words.

 

[usmbguest5318]

How long can Christopher Wray last as FBI director?

• Until Trump or Sessions orders him to do something he's unwilling to do.
• Until he can no longer forbear the depravity of the people in the current Administration and/or Congress.

 

[nat4900]

he President will fire any FBI director who attempts to undermine the administration with bogus surveillance warrants and fake memos.

You mean Trump should "fire" Nunes........LOL

 

[usmbguest5318]

Frankly, I think Trump is basically trying to get Wray to quit so that he, Trump, won't be seen to have, in the space of one year, fired two FBI Directors, both of whom have long and highly acclaimed law enforcement, government service, legal practice and prosecutorial careers. Trump knew precisely what he was getting when he nominated Wray, for it's not as though he pulled Wray's name from a hat and nominated him FBI Director.

• Wray on his approach to FBI investigations: "My commitment is to the rule of law, to the Constitution, to follow the facts wherever they may lead. And there isn't a person on this planet whose lobbying or influence could convince to just drop or abandon a properly predicated and meritorious investigation." (Source)
  
• Wray on special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation: "I would consider an effort to tamper with Director Mueller’s investigation to be unacceptable and inappropriate. ... I do not consider Director Mueller to be on a witch hunt." (Source)

I think too that Trump figures that he can sooner or later find a person who'll consent to being FBI Director and who will be a puppet who'll condone using the FBI as a tool for advancing Trump's political objectives. It seems very clear now that Trump's notion of jurisprudence, if he even has any sort of remotely accurate one, derives from what he's learned/experienced via the civil law matters in which he has been involved, mostly lawsuits. Several key differences include:

• Burden of proof
  • Criminal cases are about using a preponderance of evidence and arguments to show "beyond a reasonable doubt" that a defendant did indeed commit the crime(s) of which s/he's accused.
  • Civil cases are about using evidence and arguments to show that it's preponderantly more likely that one party's argument is stronger/weaker than the other's.
• Investigative process -- For many criminal cases, particularly the one's in which Trump has been involved, the plaintiff and defendant are private parties, not the government. As such, what isn't obtained in discovery must be obtain via a claimant having the money to pay for investigative support. Neither party, however, has even an inkling of the nature and extent of power, leverage and ability to obtain corroborating evidence that the FBI and other governmental law enforcement bodies do when conducting criminal investigations. For instance
  • a civilian defendant can't file probable cause warrants and upon having them approved, execute them and seize property they will then scour to find what they're looking for.
  • a civilian claimant cannot expect the voluntary cooperation of business, governmental or non-profit entities they solicit for information.
• Impacts and consequences -- The impact of a civil offense never affect the lawful conduct of life, whereas all criminal matters pertain precisely to that. The only difference is the scale and scope of the impacts and consequences.

Trump simply doesn't "get" those things, or if he does, he don't care. He thinks, as did Renaissance era monarchs, he and the country are indivisible, that is, what is bad for him is bad for the country and what disloyal to him personally is disloyal to the country. Of course, as the U.S. is a constitutional, federal democratic republic, nothing could be farther from the truth. Unlike, say, Louis XIV, the head of state is not also the state.

 

[Dragonlady]

There was a time when the radical left absolutely hated the FBI and now for some reason they are rooting for the new director. The short answer is that the President will fire any FBI director who attempts to undermine the administration with bogus surveillance warrants and fake memos.

What all decent folk are rooting for is the rule of law to prevail. The Trump Campaign and Administration, were both born of dishonesty, lies and collusion starting with Trump’s “birther lie” to gauge the gullibility of the American public.

Trump’s birther Campaign was a total conspiracy theory only believed by low information voters - all of them Republican. That was to identify the marks.

His campaign and his Presidency are built on lies and treasons. Trump is now willing to destroy the country and its institutions to save his Presidency.

 

[jillian]

I’m glad you believe nunes’ hit piece. That’s kind of your problem. Me? I look forward to his perp walk.

And he just may get one of those for multiple instances of Obstruction of Justice

Nunes could face obstruction charges: Expert says colluding with White House nullifies congressional immunity

I’m pretty sure he should. This is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen.

 

[DrLove]

I’m pretty sure he should. This is one of the most disgusting things I have ever seen.

Ditto Sis, the Orange Panther (recused of course) is one helluva Deplorable.