How liars create the ‘illusion of truth’

[berg80]

Yep. Psst, if it was strong there'd be no reason for Trump right?

Are you disputing the empirical data showing the economy, by normal metrics, has been strong for the last two years?
Since you appear to be doing just that, what specific data are you disputing? GDP growth? Job growth? Manufacturing growth? Wage growth? Corporate profits? Capital expenditures?

 

[berg80]

As we've seen with the GQP, the Big Lie is bad and dangerous enough when repeated over and over by an influential person.

But it becomes exponentially worse when the lies are spread and supported by others for their own personal gain.

And again, the world has seen this before. It's like we're re-living history.

There is a surreal quality to living in a country where so many people are experiencing a grand delusion on so many fronts. I took my neighbor (a trumple) out for a beer a few weeks ago and began pressing him on whether he thought trump won in 2020. He could not bring himself to admit he lost. There is no other way to define that other than delusional thinking. There's millions of them.

 

[pknopp]

There is a surreal quality to living in a country where so many people are experiencing a grand delusion on so many fronts. I took my neighbor (a trumple) out for a beer a few weeks ago and began pressing him on whether he thought trump won in 2020. He could not bring himself to admit he lost. There is no other way to define that other than delusional thinking. There's millions of them.

What did that beer cost you? $4? $5?

 

[Mac1958]

There is a surreal quality to living in a country where so many people are experiencing a grand delusion on so many fronts. I took my neighbor (a trumple) out for a beer a few weeks ago and began pressing him on whether he thought trump won in 2020. He could not bring himself to admit he lost. There is no other way to define that other than delusional thinking. There's millions of them.

Group pathology. The best current example is probably North Korea. Otherwise, Europe, 90 years ago.

There's really no way to know who believes what.

 

[berg80]

What did that beer cost you? $4? $5?

The place we went is a microbrewery where they do a special on Thursdays. If you bring in a vinyl record to play you get two beers for the price of one. Most go for around $5-6 bucks.

 

[berg80]

Group pathology. The best current example is probably North Korea. Otherwise, Europe, 90 years ago.

There's really no way to know who believes what.

The sound chamber trumples rely on for their info is, amazingly, almost as effective as N. Korean propaganda in the sense trumples don't recognize they are being propagandized. Or refuse to admit they are.

 

[pknopp]

The place we went is a microbrewery where they do a special on Thursdays. If you bring in a vinyl record to play you get two beers for the price of one. Most go for around $5-6 bucks.

$5-$6 regularly for a beer. To me that is a sign of a way overinflated economy.

I bought a pair of Danner Steel toed boots just before I retired in 2020. (The company bought them). $150.

I hadn't wore them at all but got them out. Looked them up online and they are now $280.

So while the numbers may say the economy is good, for millions it is not. Now people do for some odd reason will not acknowledge the reason for this (Pumping for a dozen years) the administration in office is going to take a hit.

As for me, I don't think that was even actually the problem. Pushing a candidate the people didn't want was the problem.

 

[Lesh]

$5-$6 regularly for a beer. To me that is a sign of a way overinflated economy.

I bought a pair of Danner Steel toed boots just before I retired in 2020. (The company bought them). $150.

I hadn't wore them at all but got them out. Looked them up online and they are now $280.

So while the numbers may say the economy is good, for millions it is not. Now people do for some odd reason will not acknowledge the reason for this (Pumping for a dozen years) the administration in office is going to take a hit.

As for me, I don't think that was even actually the problem. Pushing a candidate the people didn't want was the problem.

$150 increased to $280 when inflation totaled 20%? Does that make sense to you?

Ya think that company might be piling on a bit (actually a shit load) of profit?

Yeah that

 

[pknopp]

$150 increased to $280 when inflation totaled 20%? Does that make sense to you?

No, but we can cite examples after examples of this.

Ya think that company might be piling on a bit (actually a shit load) of profit?

Yeah that

Of course but that doesn't mean people aren't really struggling in this "good" economy. I went to a meat market the other day. Saw prime rib. Likely about big enough for I'd say 6 decent servings. $97.

 

[Lesh]

No, but we can cite examples after examples of this.




Of course but that doesn't mean people aren't really struggling in this "good" economy. I went to a meat market the other day. Saw prime rib. Likely about big enough for I'd say 6 decent servings. $97.

So the problem is not so much the economy as it is corps taking advantage.

 

[pknopp]

So the problem is not so much the economy as it is corps taking advantage.

It's all the economy. To the person on the street, they do not care about the numbers that drive the bond markets. They just know they are having an even harder time making ends meet. All of this was created by both parties.

 

[TimFitz]

^^^ the foundation of the entire Democratic party and their pals in the fake news.

Mindless blanket statement made by someone who clearly recognizes the pattern.

Fox lies to its audience. Trump lies to everyone all the time.

His sheep know it too (aas your post demonstrated).

 

[Foolardi]

The Electorate was reacting to the PERCEPTION that the economy was bad… not the reality.

IN other words they were reacting to Trump’s LIES

I get it like how the Entire Democrat Party and most the
Legacy Media OUTRIGHT LIED as to Biden being
Infirmed till it was TOO late.
Or Mid Summer and Biden's sorry ass
debate with Trump.Then the Obama machine was left holding the bag.They had to move razor
sharp quick and pick a new replacement as
Democrat candidate.

 

[Foolardi]

It's all the economy. To the person on the street, they do not care about the numbers that drive the bond markets. They just know they are having an even harder time making ends meet. All of this was created by both parties.

That is the overall sentiment of most the Electorate.
That and Open Borders and Lawfare.Plus a whole lot
more under the surface.Basically egged-on by a corrupted
Mainstream or Legacy media.Where as it stands now the
Networks { ABC,NBC,CBS } are in freefall.May not exist as
once was the case.

 

[Lesh]

Running for President and BEING President are two distinctly different things

Biden couldn’t do the former but is doing the latter admirably

The opposite is true of Trump

 

[healthmyths]

Yes, and this is why the pro-HAMAS leftists and other antisemites keep insisting that Israel is committing genocide. The Jew-haters hope that if they say it often enough, gullible people - or those inclined to believe the worst of Jews - will fall for it.

So tell me. What is your opinion about those claiming Jews are committing genocide?

Well the proof of which entity cares more about it's people... Israel or the terrorists Hamas,ISIS,etc.?
Which group has been hit by over 20,000 rockets over ....
Since 2005, Hamas and other terrorist groups in Gaza have launched over 20,000 rockets and mortars at Israel, carried out more than one hundred suicide bombings, and dug dozens of terror tunnels into Israeli communities—all at the expense of the people of Gaza.

https://www.aipac.org/resources/understanding-the-recent-conflict-in-gaza-dhlfm-95xlk-fkphm#:~:text=seeks%20the%20destruction-,of%20Israel.,of%20the%20people%20of%20Gaza.

Meanwhile which group has
NO IRON DOME,
3 billionaire leaders living securely in Qatar while over
46,416 Palestinians October 7, 2023.

Israel-Gaza war in maps and charts: Live tracker

The latest death toll stands at 62,614 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.

www.aljazeera.com

Which group cares more about their people?

 

[Rawley]

Are you disputing the empirical data showing the economy, by normal metrics, has been strong for the last two years?
Since you appear to be doing just that, what specific data are you disputing? GDP growth? Job growth? Manufacturing growth? Wage growth? Corporate profits? Capital expenditures?

312 - 226 No dispute. But I assume you'll counter with your opinion that the majority of Americans are stoooopid and don't understand the economy.

 

[Rawley]

Running for President and BEING President are two distinctly different things

Biden couldn’t do the former but is doing the latter admirably

The opposite is true of Trump

And yet Trump is being sworn-in in 16 days. Funny that.

 

[berg80]

So while the numbers may say the economy is good, for millions it is not.

Agreed. A fact entirely beyond the control of the prez.

 

[Lisa558]

Well the proof of which entity cares more about it's people... Israel or the terrorists Hamas,ISIS,etc.?
Which group has been hit by over 20,000 rockets over ....
Since 2005, Hamas and other terrorist groups in Gaza have launched over 20,000 rockets and mortars at Israel, carried out more than one hundred suicide bombings, and dug dozens of terror tunnels into Israeli communities—all at the expense of the people of Gaza.

https://www.aipac.org/resources/understanding-the-recent-conflict-in-gaza-dhlfm-95xlk-fkphm#:~:text=seeks%20the%20destruction-,of%20Israel.,of%20the%20people%20of%20Gaza.

Meanwhile which group has
NO IRON DOME,
3 billionaire leaders living securely in Qatar while over
46,416 Palestinians October 7, 2023.

Israel-Gaza war in maps and charts: Live tracker

The latest death toll stands at 62,614 Palestinians and 1,139 people killed in Israel since October 7, 2023.

www.aljazeera.com

Which group cares more about their people?

OMG….. are you actually trying to draw a parallel between Israel, a sovereign nation, and HAMAS, an Islamic terrorist group that siphons off food and aid intended for its people, and who brainwashed them into thinking that Allah will reward them for intentionally torturing to death Jewish children and then tossing their decapitated heads around like sport?