How do we stop "the poor" from being so problematic?

[rightwinger]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor




.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

 

[Moonglow]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Why, when they can afford to hire a hitman, it's harder to trace..

 

[Wyatt earp]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Why, when they can afford to hire a hitman, it's harder to trace..

So where are all these statistics of hitmen killings that rival gang bang shootings in one day of Chicago alone?

 

[Wyatt earp]

It does amuse me when the left parrots pyshco Berkley professors who proclaim the white collar crime is waaaayyy worse then people killing people on the streets.


.

 

[Moonglow]

It does amuse me when the left parrots pyshco Berkley professors who proclaim the white collar crime is waaaayyy worse then people killing people on the streets.


.

Crime is crime but I see you prefer to defend white collar crime..

 

[Moonglow]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Why, when they can afford to hire a hitman, it's harder to trace..

So where are all these statistics of hitmen killings that rival gang bang shootings in one day of Chicago alone?

Please don't play naive, you know that hitmen for the rich have more elaborate tactics of taking down their rivals..

 

[Billo_Really]

no the fed just kept interest rates artificially low which just pumped more and more air into the real estate bubble

The fed is not the government.

 

[rightwinger]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Drive by shootings are for amateurs

The rich start wars....that's where the real killing is
I've never seen a poor person start a war or profit from one

 

[danielpalos]

The answer is simple. Raise minimum wage to $15.00/hr.

Comprehension problems I presume?

I just got done stating to you that places that took huge increases in minimum wage had no impact on the so-called poor because they simply worked less hours. And you come back with "the answer is simple, raise minimum wage to $15.00 per hour?"

Here in the city of Cleveland, it's an entirely Democrat run government which is how it got ran into a hole. But a few months ago, the city tried to increase the minimum wage to $15.00 per hour. Even these liberal Democrats voted it down. Why? Because they knew it would chase industry out of Cleveland and into the suburbs.

The next step was to convince the county (Cuyahoga) to adopt Cleveland's idea so that businesses would not have to move to the suburbs. The county refused to go along with the idea for the same reason: it would chase businesses out of the county to adjoining counties.

When you create problems for businesses, businesses respond, and not likely in a positive way. It's one of the reasons tax abatements work when trying to attract businesses to your city or state. Show them that you are willing to give them tax breaks to make it financially easier to run their business, and they will choose you over a higher taxed city or state.

National minimum wage of $15.00/hr.

What if a business can't afford to pay $15 minimum wage? This is common, even in states with high costs of living like California.

Work harder for less.

you should try working

lol. i am not the one complaining he cannot make like Henry Ford, and simply double minimum wages not autoworker wages.

 

[Dragonlady]

Name one business that can't afford to pay a $15.00 minimum wage.

Literally every business in the world cannot afford to pay a $15 minimum wage. You are clueless about basic economics and business.

No YOU ARE. Lots of businesses pay wages of $15 an hour or more. You've been lied to so consistently about low end wages and you don't even have the intellectual curiosity to see if their bullshit is true or not.

 

[BrokeLoser]

actually, that's exactly what they told them.

The government did not tell the banks to forgo their standard vetting process.

BTW, the majority of foreclosures were from private lenders.

Lenders were turning away conventional mortgages and requesting more sub-prime mortgages because they could make much higher fees and commissions on the high interest rate, high risk mortgages. People with no money down, and no jobs were encouraged to buy homes they couldn't afford, and to lie on their application forms, to line the pockets of mortgage brokers and banks.

It was flat out greed by the big banks and brokerage houses and had absolutely nothing to do with lending to minorities in poor neighbourhoods. This was middle class white people buying two and three properties because mortgage brokers were glad-handing money around like it would never have to be paid back.

Oh please, you mean to tell me in this age of communication, that somebody could lie about their financial status and get away with buying a home????

0% down and no credit check was instituted by the federal government. It was catered to minority and poor borrowers. Banks only made money on making the loans--not financing them. After the bank made the loans, they sold them off to the market. You couldn't sell off a loan unless it complied with F and F standards.

0% down and no credit check was instituted by the federal government. It was catered to minority and poor borrowers. Banks only made money on making the loans--not financing them. After the bank made the loans, they sold them off to the market. You couldn't sell off a loan unless it complied with F and F standards.

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This just isn't true. The banks and mortgage companies, freed by relaxed regulations and virtually zero oversight, created the insane mortgages because they knew they'd be able to sell them by noon the next day. Either in shit CMO's that were somehow rated AAA by the paid-off ratings agencies, or the even UGLIER shit CDO's that were ALSO somehow rated AAA by the paid-off ratings agencies.

The only role the government played in that sham process is that it completely ignored the whole travesty. They weren't paying attention to the crap that was being put into those shit securities because the ratings agencies were selling AAA ratings.

125% loan to value! Stated income, just make something up, we don't verify! Use your dog's name on the application, we don't care!

Even Greenspan said he didn't understand those shit securities. But hey, real estate was booming, who cares! Greenspan had the authority to monitor and regulate these shit securities, and refused to. As a libertarian, he was convinced the market would self-correct and self-regulate. So much for THAT idea.
.

The government did not tell the banks to forgo their standard vetting process.

BTW, the majority of foreclosures were from private lenders.

Lenders were turning away conventional mortgages and requesting more sub-prime mortgages because they could make much higher fees and commissions on the high interest rate, high risk mortgages. People with no money down, and no jobs were encouraged to buy homes they couldn't afford, and to lie on their application forms, to line the pockets of mortgage brokers and banks.

It was flat out greed by the big banks and brokerage houses and had absolutely nothing to do with lending to minorities in poor neighbourhoods. This was middle class white people buying two and three properties because mortgage brokers were glad-handing money around like it would never have to be paid back.

Oh please, you mean to tell me in this age of communication, that somebody could lie about their financial status and get away with buying a home????

0% down and no credit check was instituted by the federal government. It was catered to minority and poor borrowers. Banks only made money on making the loans--not financing them. After the bank made the loans, they sold them off to the market. You couldn't sell off a loan unless it complied with F and F standards.

0% down and no credit check was instituted by the federal government. It was catered to minority and poor borrowers. Banks only made money on making the loans--not financing them. After the bank made the loans, they sold them off to the market. You couldn't sell off a loan unless it complied with F and F standards.

=============

This just isn't true. The banks and mortgage companies, freed by relaxed regulations and virtually zero oversight, created the insane mortgages because they knew they'd be able to sell them by noon the next day. Either in shit CMO's that were somehow rated AAA by the paid-off ratings agencies, or the even UGLIER shit CDO's that were ALSO somehow rated AAA by the paid-off ratings agencies.

The only role the government played in that sham process is that it completely ignored the whole travesty. They weren't paying attention to the crap that was being put into those shit securities because the ratings agencies were selling AAA ratings.

125% loan to value! Stated income, just make something up, we don't verify! Use your dog's name on the application, we don't care!

Even Greenspan said he didn't understand those shit securities. But hey, real estate was booming, who cares! Greenspan had the authority to monitor and regulate these shit securities, and refused to. As a libertarian, he was convinced the market would self-correct and self-regulate. So much for THAT idea.
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I agree with most of what you said. But banks do not make their own lending regulations for sub-prime loans--government does.

Banks made money for processing the loans, and off they went to the market where they were sold off as AAA securities rated by THE GOVERNMENT.

But all that aside, in order to understand how we got there, you have to go back to the beginning. What started all this was minority home ownership. Minorities were complaining that they couldn't get home loans because they didn't qualify. Using race as the complaint, politicians reacted as they always do when race is suggested.

The regulations kept getting weaker and weaker as the bubble kept growing.

Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending

Minorities' Home Ownership Booms Under Clinton but Still Lags Whites'

The government does not rate securities. Where did you get that? The ratings were given (sold, actually) by ratings agencies - Standard & Poor's, Fitch and Moody's are the Big Three - and they are only used by the NRSRO, not owned by it. These companies gave AAA ratings to the crap securities that were most responsible for the Meltdown. That's just a fact.

You also said that "0% down and no credit check was instituted by the federal government." Do have any proof of that at all? The insane loans were created and marketed by the mortgage companies because they knew they could get rid of them the next day, and the government just ignored it.

I know you want to blame the Democrats, that's how partisan politics is, but cripes, what happened happened.
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Shit, there were stated, stated, stated loans being underwritten. (Stated income, stated employment, stated asset)
In most cases these liar loans were underwritten at just a half point higher than full-doc loans. While the government may not "rate securities" they do set lending guidelines for conforming mortgage loans which they purchase. Bear in mind, not all mortgages defaulted on were non-conforming subprime mortgages and shit-tons of subprime paper was packaged into mortgage back securities.
Again, for me, this is simple; borrowers agreed to the terms of loans and then didn't adhere to the agreed upon terms. Borrowers fault.

 

[jasonnfree]

actually, that's exactly what they told them.

The government did not tell the banks to forgo their standard vetting process.

BTW, the majority of foreclosures were from private lenders.

Lenders were turning away conventional mortgages and requesting more sub-prime mortgages because they could make much higher fees and commissions on the high interest rate, high risk mortgages. People with no money down, and no jobs were encouraged to buy homes they couldn't afford, and to lie on their application forms, to line the pockets of mortgage brokers and banks.

It was flat out greed by the big banks and brokerage houses and had absolutely nothing to do with lending to minorities in poor neighbourhoods. This was middle class white people buying two and three properties because mortgage brokers were glad-handing money around like it would never have to be paid back.

Oh please, you mean to tell me in this age of communication, that somebody could lie about their financial status and get away with buying a home????

0% down and no credit check was instituted by the federal government. It was catered to minority and poor borrowers. Banks only made money on making the loans--not financing them. After the bank made the loans, they sold them off to the market. You couldn't sell off a loan unless it complied with F and F standards.

The banks knew they were unethical, if not criminal, in approving loans to people who couldn't make the payments. I had a friend who got out of the business for that reason. He wasn't under any directive to write loans to minorities, either. Just loan to anyone who was breathing, and get while the getting was good, he was ordered. Seems like nothing happens to the bankers. The great obama never went after these bankers and wall streeters for what they caused, either.

 

[Dragonlady]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Let's start with your President. How many contractors has he stiffed? How many businesses were shuttered because Trump encouraged small sub-trades to do work for him and he stiffed them. 3000 lawsuits. How much money has it cost the taxpayers to pay for the court staff to process those 3000 lawsuits? How much time and taxpayer money has been spent by Donald Trump on lawsuits to avoid paying subcontractors? How much time and taxpayer money has he spent fighting his property tax bills?

Trump has been an enormous drain on the US economy with his bankruptcies and lawsuits, not to mention the $25 million in damages he had to pay over the Trump University con game. I've read that this amount is a gift, that the actual amount of the fraud was closer to $125 million.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

or looting local mom and pop business

 

[Skull Pilot]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Drive by shootings are for amateurs

The rich start wars....that's where the real killing is
I've never seen a poor person start a war or profit from one

politicians start wars

 

[BrokeLoser]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Let's start with your President. How many contractors has he stiffed? How many businesses were shuttered because Trump encouraged small sub-trades to do work for him and he stiffed them. 3000 lawsuits. How much money has it cost the taxpayers to pay for the court staff to process those 3000 lawsuits? How much time and taxpayer money has been spent by Donald Trump on lawsuits to avoid paying subcontractors? How much time and taxpayer money has he spent fighting his property tax bills?

Trump has been an enormous drain on the US economy with his bankruptcies and lawsuits, not to mention the $25 million in damages he had to pay over the Trump University con game. I've read that this amount is a gift, that the actual amount of the fraud was closer to $125 million.

"Enormous Drain"
Now you're just making a complete ass of yourself. The man paid 38 million in income tax in one year. You and all your low-life friends won't pay that over your lifetimes. What do you think he pays in property, sales and luxury taxes annually? How many people does he employ?
I know how you predictable Liberals are with your knee jerk, emotional reactions based on surface value but come on...sometimes you gotta use your head a think a bit deeper.
His 3,000 lawsuits over 50 years in business should come as no surprise to anyone. He's aggressive as all hell...Further, he or his companies are the plaintiff in many of the cases.

 

[rightwinger]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Drive by shootings are for amateurs

The rich start wars....that's where the real killing is
I've never seen a poor person start a war or profit from one

politicians start wars

The wealthy own the politicians

The wealthy profit from war.......the poor fights them

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Our poor are our worst parents...they create more of their same.

The rich are worse

Our poor suck the most government tit.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most crime.

The rich are worse

Our poor does the most drugs.

The rich are worse

Our poor litters and vandalizes the most.

The rich are worse

Our poor commits the most animal cruelty.

The rich are worse

let's not deflect and divert to Wall Street criminals, big corporations..blah, blah, blah...Let's get real, let's get serious about our taxpayer draining bottom feeders....Whatta ya say?

It's not deflection if it is true. The rich raise sniveling entitled brats. They recieve more subsidies and breaks than everyone else. Most of them do cocaine and other hard drugs. They destroy ecosystems to put up their luxury mansions and mega-malls. They consume and monopolize the most resources. They slaughter trillions of animals each year to package into food products and market to fat American consumers.

Just the facts.

Very true

The crime committed by the rich is much worse than that done by the poor . But with accountants and a team of lawyers they get off unchecked.

Ecological damage done in the name of greed is far worse than littering and graffiti done by the poor

Alert us when the rich start drive by shooting each other, then maybe it's a concern .

Let's start with your President. How many contractors has he stiffed? How many businesses were shuttered because Trump encouraged small sub-trades to do work for him and he stiffed them. 3000 lawsuits. How much money has it cost the taxpayers to pay for the court staff to process those 3000 lawsuits? How much time and taxpayer money has been spent by Donald Trump on lawsuits to avoid paying subcontractors? How much time and taxpayer money has he spent fighting his property tax bills?

Trump has been an enormous drain on the US economy with his bankruptcies and lawsuits, not to mention the $25 million in damages he had to pay over the Trump University con game. I've read that this amount is a gift, that the actual amount of the fraud was closer to $125 million.

If Trump had not been elected President, he would have fought those bogus lawsuits right until the end. He didn't have time to mess around with them as he had before. More than likely, he would have won those suits as well. There were plenty of people that were satisfied with his school.

 

[P@triot]

Lots of businesses pay wages of $15 an hour or more.

Not for minimum wage labor. Oops...