How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

[jc456]

You zipped right by "commonly regarded as correct". Obviously, AGW is well beyond "commonly regarded as correct".

The Scientific Method is not as hard and fast as you would believe. How, for instance, would one conduct experiments in astronomy or cosmology? In cases in which laboratory experiments are not practical or even possible, observations can be used to test falsification.

From Scientific method - Wikipedia
Although procedures vary from one field of inquiry to another, they are frequently the same from one to another. The process of the scientific method involves making conjectures (hypotheses), deriving predictions from them as logical consequences, and then carrying out experiments or empirical observations based on those predictions.[1][2] A hypothesis is a conjecture, based on knowledge obtained while seeking answers to the question. The hypothesis might be very specific, or it might be broad. Scientists then test hypotheses by conducting experiments or studies. A scientific hypothesis must be falsifiable, implying that it is possible to identify a possible outcome of an experiment or observation that conflicts with predictions deduced from the hypothesis; otherwise, the hypothesis cannot be meaningfully tested.[3]

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Scientific methodology often directs that hypotheses be tested in controlled conditions wherever possible. This is frequently possible in certain areas, such as in the biological sciences, and more difficult in other areas, such as in astronomy.

References

1. Peirce, Charles Sanders (1908). "A Neglected Argument for the Reality of God" . Hibbert Journal. 7: 90–112 – via Wikisource. with added notes. Reprinted with previously unpublished part, Collected Papers v. 6, paragraphs 452–85, The Essential Peirce v. 2, pp. 434–50, and elsewhere.
2. ^ See, for example, Galileo 1638. His thought experiments disprove Aristotle's physics of falling bodies, in Two New Sciences.
3. ^ Popper 1959, p. 273

Commonly regarded is not observed data. When is that information coming?

 

[jc456]

"The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch has single paragraphs with more empirical evidence than your "science" has accumulated in the last 30 years.

The money that has been spent on reducing our CO2 emissions, every penny of it, has been wisely invested. Doing nothing, as is ALWAYS the case with unpleasant problems, is the WORST and most COSTLY possible choice.

Still nothing forward from the link. Therefore, the only conclusion is it isn’t in the link! So you lied

 

[SSDD]

"The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch has single paragraphs with more empirical evidence than your "science" has accumulated in the last 30 years.

The money that has been spent on reducing our CO2 emissions, every penny of it, has been wisely invested. Doing nothing, as is ALWAYS the case with unpleasant problems, is the WORST and most COSTLY possible choice.

Yeah...you keep posting that...but don't seem to be able to bring a single piece of data that demonstrates that the present climate is any different from natural variability...When I make a claim, I provide the actual paper...author, publication, title, and a link...you are full of BS and because of that, the best you can do is send people off to a steaming pile of excrement hoping that they might find something there that you couldn't...

 

[SSDD]

"The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch has single paragraphs with more empirical evidence than your "science" has accumulated in the last 30 years.

The money that has been spent on reducing our CO2 emissions, every penny of it, has been wisely invested. Doing nothing, as is ALWAYS the case with unpleasant problems, is the WORST and most COSTLY possible choice.

Still nothing forward from the link. Therefore, the only conclusion is it isn’t in the link! So you lied

Of course he lies...he may as well give you a link to www. and tell you to go find it...

 

[SSDD]

When I make a claim, I provide the actual paper...author, publication, title, and a link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha

So lets see the published paper from your IPCC steaming pile where the claimed warming due to our activities has been empirically measured, quantified, and ascribe to so called greenhouse gasses.....or lets see a single piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the AGW hypothesis over natural vairiability...

What's that laughing boy? Can't provide any because there is none there? That's what I thought.

 

[jc456]

The trick here, folks, is that SSDD specifies what he wants to see. He wants you to think that that precise evidence is the only way to actually support AGW. He assumes you are doing no critical thinking whatsoever. The reference listing from individual chapters of TPSB are pages long and I have been criticized by management here for posting them. However, I will give it another go.

I ask management to take into account that I will only be posting one fourth of the reference section from one chapter of TPSB and I only do so due to SSDD's unending and unsubstantiated claim that the TPSB link provides no evidence. I know it is a bit much, but parce mihi pro peccatis meis

Below is a list of 154 published scientific studies, one-fourth (alphabetically) of the studies referenced in ONE of the 14 chapters and 6 annexes of "The Physical Science Basis"; the work that SSDD claims contains zero empirical evidence of AGW.

References for Chapter 8 of "The Physical Science Basis"
'Anthropogenic and Natural Radiative Forcing'

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you still don't get it. it is truly amazing how fking stupid you really are. A piece of advice you fking idiot, take one of those papers/ books and post the material from it that backs your idiotic claim. that's how we do it in the forum here. I wish the mods would bust your fking sorry ass for this kind of trollish crap.

 

[jc456]

so to keep on topic, I've asked for you to forward out of one document of your post the language, or start of the report that backs your claim. It's what each of us has asked you and you have failed. no other reason for me to lie about it since the evidence is a plenty in here. You don't post any quoted reference from a link you provide because the references aren't there. There is no need to open up a link for a wild goose chase like you are inferring.

 

[Crick]

When I make a claim, I provide the actual paper...author, publication, title, and a link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha

So lets see the published paper from your IPCC steaming pile where the claimed warming due to our activities has been empirically measured, quantified, and ascribe to so called greenhouse gasses.....or lets see a single piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the AGW hypothesis over natural vairiability...

What's that laughing boy? Can't provide any because there is none there? That's what I thought.

Let's see a paper supporting ANYTHING you've ever claimed. Can anyone out there recall a single paper to which SSDD has ever linked? Anyone?

As for me, let's see if this strikes a familiar chord "The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

When I make a claim, I provide the actual paper...author, publication, title, and a link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha

So lets see the published paper from your IPCC steaming pile where the claimed warming due to our activities has been empirically measured, quantified, and ascribe to so called greenhouse gasses.....or lets see a single piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the AGW hypothesis over natural vairiability...

What's that laughing boy? Can't provide any because there is none there? That's what I thought.

Let's see a paper supporting ANYTHING you've ever claimed. Can anyone out there recall a single paper to which SSDD has ever linked? Anyone?

As for me, let's see if this strikes a familiar chord "The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch.

He used to link to lots of things.
He stopped, because his links always refuted his claims.

 

[gallantwarrior]

How do we Know Human are Causing Climate Change?

Because the climate never changed before we started using fossil fuels?

Never? How do you prove that? What documentation can you present that clearly tells us that climate never changed before fossil fuels were used by man?

 

[SSDD]

Let's see a paper supporting ANYTHING you've ever claimed. Can anyone out there recall a single paper to which SSDD has ever linked? Anyone?

You really aren't very bright are you? My claim is that there has never been a paper published in which the so called warming due to our activities has been empirically measured, quantified and blamed on so called greenhouse gasses...You want me to post a link to a paper that has never been published? Ok..here it is...

As for me, let's see if this strikes a familiar chord "The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch.

Sorry skidmark.....when I do post papers to support my position, I provide the title of the paper..the author...and a link to the specific paper...not some vague link to somewhere in hopes that you might find something....If I did that, I would be as dishonest as you.

And you are a bald faced, abject liar...the claim that I have never linked to a single paper is one of the largest lies you have ever told...Here...within the past few days, you lying piece of excrement......

CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"

And those are just from one thread....what some more liar?

The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.
The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.
The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.

Tell me skidmark....what's it like to be the biggest liar on the board?

 

[jc456]

When I make a claim, I provide the actual paper...author, publication, title, and a link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha

So lets see the published paper from your IPCC steaming pile where the claimed warming due to our activities has been empirically measured, quantified, and ascribe to so called greenhouse gasses.....or lets see a single piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the AGW hypothesis over natural vairiability...

What's that laughing boy? Can't provide any because there is none there? That's what I thought.

Let's see a paper supporting ANYTHING you've ever claimed. Can anyone out there recall a single paper to which SSDD has ever linked? Anyone?

As for me, let's see if this strikes a familiar chord "The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch.

what does this have to do with humans supposedly causing global warming? I didn't see anything in the link. go another?

 

[SSDD]

When I make a claim, I provide the actual paper...author, publication, title, and a link

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha

So lets see the published paper from your IPCC steaming pile where the claimed warming due to our activities has been empirically measured, quantified, and ascribe to so called greenhouse gasses.....or lets see a single piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the AGW hypothesis over natural vairiability...

What's that laughing boy? Can't provide any because there is none there? That's what I thought.

Let's see a paper supporting ANYTHING you've ever claimed. Can anyone out there recall a single paper to which SSDD has ever linked? Anyone?

As for me, let's see if this strikes a familiar chord "The Physical Science Basis" at www.ipcc.ch.

what does this have to do with humans supposedly causing global warming? I didn't see anything in the link. go another?

He likes to call other people trolls, but he has become one of the biggest trolls on the board...

 

[Crick]

And you are a bald faced, abject liar...the claim that I have never linked to a single paper is one of the largest lies you have ever told...Here...within the past few days, you lying piece of excrement......

CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"

None of which are in this forum. They are in a forum I had NEVER entered before you put up these links. So, bullshit.

And those are just from one thread....what some more liar?

The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.
The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.
The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.

Tell me skidmark....what's it like to be the biggest liar on the board?

How many times did I say that everything you were claiming to know about natural factors that depleted ozone came from research you later claimed did not exist?

And how many times did I say that the data on natural ozone depleting mechanisms - that you yourself had posted - showed NO CORRELATION with the growth of the holes in the ozone layer? These links prove exactly that.

You come here for no other reason than to entertain yourself by finding people stupid enough to believe your crapola and pissing off people who know it for what it is.

You are NOTHING but a

TROLL

 

[SSDD]

And you are a bald faced, abject liar...the claim that I have never linked to a single paper is one of the largest lies you have ever told...Here...within the past few days, you lying piece of excrement......

CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"
CDZ - Questions regarding "Climate Change"

None of which are in this forum. They are in a forum I had NEVER entered before you put up these links. So, bullshit.

And those are just from one thread....what some more liar?

The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.
The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.
The "OZONE HOLE" scam was the pre-curser to the Global Warmists movement.

Tell me skidmark....what's it like to be the biggest liar on the board?

How many times did I say that everything you were claiming to know about natural factors that depleted ozone came from research you later claimed did not exist?

And how many times did I say that the data on natural ozone depleting mechanisms - that you yourself had posted - showed NO CORRELATION with the growth of the holes in the ozone layer? These links prove exactly that.

You come here for no other reason than to entertain yourself by finding people stupid enough to believe your crapola and pissing off people who know it for what it is.

You are NOTHING but a

TROLL

Got your panties in a twist over being proven to be a big fat liar skidmark? Like I said, when I reference information, I give you everything you need to go directly to the specific paper...unlike you who gives a vague address simply hoping that people might find something...we both know that there is nothing there that would satisfy my request for evidence but you just keep telling the lie over and over...

 

[Crick]

PS: Researchgate does not require peer review

We know humans are causing global warming because GHGs are the primary cause of the warming observed for the past 150 years and, in particular, the last 50. Isotopic analysis and simple bookkeeping tells us that humans are the source of virtually every molecule of GHGs above pre-industrial levels.

 

[SSDD]

PS: Researchgate does not require peer review

We know humans are causing global warming because GHGs are the primary cause of the warming observed for the past 150 years and, in particular, the last 50. Isotopic analysis and simple bookkeeping tells us that humans are the source of virtually every molecule of GHGs above pre-industrial levels.

And yet there hasn't been a single paper published in which the claimed warming due to our activities has been empirically measured, quantified and blamed on so called greenhouse gasses...so exactly how do we "know" any such thing...and there isn't the first piece of observed, measured evidence which supports the claim that the present climate is in any way different from natural variability...

Just more unsupportable bullshit claims from the biggest liar on the board...

 

[Crick]

I demand you provide a study that proves through verified, certified, guaranteed, double-blind, secret-handshake, empircal observations with eyes and noses and tongues and ears that CO2 does not grow warmer when it absorbs IR radiation and that it cannot transfer thermal energy to other molecules via conduction and that photons refuse to travel from warm to cold and that our atmosphere is held in place by the Earth's magnetic field.

If you can't do that, then you must be a fucking

TROLL

 

[SSDD]

I demand you provide a study that proves through verified, certified, guaranteed, double-blind, secret-handshake, empircal observations with eyes and noses and tongues and ears that CO2 does not grow warmer when it absorbs IR radiation and that it cannot transfer thermal energy to other molecules via conduction and that photons refuse to travel from warm to cold and that our atmosphere is held in place by the Earth's magnetic field.

If you can't do that, then you must be a fucking

TROLL

You are the one claiming that it does...the burden of evidence is on you...and children's experiments that are good enough to fool you aren't evidence..You asked for a study that proves through verified, certified, guaranteed, double-blind, secret-handshake, empircal observations with eyes and noses and tongues and ears that CO2 does not grow warmer when it absorbs IR radiation...adhere to your own standards and provide such a study that says that it does, and provides the actual empirical evidence to support the claim..

And when did I ever say that a CO2 molecule doesn't lose energy to other molecules...it is, in fact, my argument that it does...which is why there can be no radiative greenhouse effect as described by climate science....do you ever stop lying? Do you even know that you are lying when you do it?

You continue to make my point by not providing any actual evidence to support your claims...

 

[Crick]

You've dug your well here when you decided to claim you were smarter than all the world's scientists put together. To do that clearly, you had to put out something different than their conclusions. That required you put out crap that, as has been shown, violates all manner of fundamental physical laws. You stick to it because you're a troll and that's what trolls do.

A good first step would be for you to admit all that. A good second step would be one in a direction away from this forum.