How do we get the money out of politics?

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Foreign money should not be allowed at all but we see foreign interests giving huge dollar amounts to the RNC and DNC we even allow foreign money donations for candidates of Congress and the presidency.
That is a serious problem

but I dont thint the corrupt swamp rats in washington will put an end to it
 

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Politicians and the parties are required to report every single penny they take in.
Illegal donations can be packaged to look like legal money

the clintons pioneered that scam in the early 90’s with illegal chinese donations
 

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Campaigns may not solicit or accept contributions from foreign nationals. Federal law prohibits contributions, donations, expenditures and disbursements solicited, directed, received or made directly or indirectly by or from foreign nationals in connection with any election — federal, state or local.

Who can and can't contribute - FEC.gov.
 

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Politicians and the parties are required to report every single penny they take in.
Illegal donations can be packaged to look like legal money

the clintons pioneered that scam in the early 90’s with illegal chinese donations
Maybe we can uncover this right after the courts overturn the elections.
 

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Maybe we can uncover this right after the courts overturn the elections.
Its been common knowledge among INFORMED Americans for decades


and remember to SALUTE THE MARINES

Why bring Biden into this discussion? As I recall Clinton did get caught. But the point is she did get caught.
 

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Why bring Biden into this discussion?
As long as biden is the Their-in-Chief he is part of every discussion involving politics

You can see how lost he is in that video

This man is not fit to be president because his mind is slipping
 

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You will never get money out of politics. Best to focus on making it transparent.
 

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We indeed could turn the money off.
When the federal government controls such a huge piece of the economy, of course people will
have an incentive to spend money to get a piece of the action or input into the process.

And they're allowed to by the Constitution.

So no, you can't.
 

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get rid of citizen's united.

lol ... good luck.
That did NOT stop anyone from donating to politics. It only stopped certain groups from speaking out on their own. You really should understand the law and ruling before commenting on it.

Either that or you are simply intentionally misrepresenting the issue.
Not sure I understand your position, but I am totally against the Citizen's United SCOTUS ruling.
By allowing companies to conglomerate political contributions and no longer track the individual source, this allowed foreign money to pour into our political campaigns.
Foreign nationals can invest in and own part or all of a company with US branches. And Citizen's United ruling resulted in there being no way to track or stop foreign manipulation of our elections.
The name of the ruling should be changed.
Instead of "Citizen's United", it would be more accurately called, "Foreigners Anonymous", because that is what it does. It makes campaign funding by foreign nationals, anonymous and impossible to stop.
 

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We indeed could turn the money off.
When the federal government controls such a huge piece of the economy, of course people will
have an incentive to spend money to get a piece of the action or input into the process.

And they're allowed to by the Constitution.

So no, you can't.
We most certainly could turn off the money the Federal Reserve is pumping into the markets.
 

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get rid of citizen's united.

lol ... good luck.
get rid of citizen's united.

Why?
Because by allowing companies with plants in the US to conglomerate anonymous contributions, then noncitizens can also invest in US political campaigns, without there being any means of tracking or preventing.
The only point of Citizen's United is to hide illegal foreign campaign contributions.
 

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get rid of citizen's united.

lol ... good luck.
That did NOT stop anyone from donating to politics. It only stopped certain groups from speaking out on their own. You really should understand the law and ruling before commenting on it.

Either that or you are simply intentionally misrepresenting the issue.
Not sure I understand your position, but I am totally against the Citizen's United SCOTUS ruling.
By allowing companies to conglomerate political contributions and no longer track the individual source, this allowed foreign money to pour into our political campaigns.
Foreign nationals can invest in and own part or all of a company with US branches. And Citizen's United ruling resulted in there being no way to track or stop foreign manipulation of our elections.
The name of the ruling should be changed.
Instead of "Citizen's United", it would be more accurately called, "Foreigners Anonymous", because that is what it does. It makes campaign funding by foreign nationals, anonymous and impossible to stop.
The law was enacted to stop things like the "Swiftboaters" and the guy who was going to release a movie on Hillary.

Whether or not you recall Kerry was so pissed that a group of outsiders could have such an influence on the elections. He cried to Bush to make them stop. They weren't even "pro-Bush", they were "anti-Kerry".

They had every right to expend money and have their say as anyone. Any money expended by corporations also have to be accounted for.

There was no "Russia, Russia, Russia" nor was there any "China, China, China".

All countries do try and mess with the elections of other countries in ways and no law is going to stop that. Remember, Obama sent a ton of money in an attempt to influence elections in Israel.
 

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You will never get money out of politics. Best to focus on making it transparent.
Maybe.
But there are ways we could try.
For example, we could limit all campaign spending to a fixed amount provided by the government.
That would equalize all candidates.
Then all media could have a time slot when they were all required to allow the candidates equal access.
Say like from 5:00 to 5:15.
 

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You will never get money out of politics. Best to focus on making it transparent.
Maybe.
But there are ways we could try.
For example, we could limit all campaign spending to a fixed amount provided by the government.
That would equalize all candidates.
Then all media could have a time slot when they were all required to allow the candidates equal access.
Say like from 5:00 to 5:15.
Have you forgotten the Bill of Rights? Maybe you are really just interested in a way to ensure the incumbent candidate always wins.
 

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How do we get the money out of politics?
Step #1 reverse citizens united.
You can't just "reverse" a Supreme Court decision. Politicians could enact a law that restricts them but they will never do that.
I didn't say it would be easy, I said it needed to be done. And a properly motivated court could do it.
"Properly motivated"? LOL, you plan on an attack on the Supreme Court now?
 

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You will never get money out of politics. Best to focus on making it transparent.
Maybe.
But there are ways we could try.
For example, we could limit all campaign spending to a fixed amount provided by the government.
That would equalize all candidates.
Then all media could have a time slot when they were all required to allow the candidates equal access.
Say like from 5:00 to 5:15.
Have you forgotten the Bill of Rights? Maybe you are really just interested in a way to ensure the incumbent candidate always wins.
McCain/Feingold was indeed an Incumbent Protection law. That's what it should have been called.
 

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