How do gulf state Arab cities look so incredible?

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Yeah so there is an abundance of natural resources in plenty of areas in Africa and South America but they don’t have this,

Dubai

Doha,

Riyadh

Why don’t cities in South America or Africa have this^ …heck many American cities(used to be great) don’t have what we see above.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Yeah so there is an abundance of natural resources in plenty of areas in Africa and South America but they don’t have this,

Dubai
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Doha,

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Why don’t cities in South America or Africa have this^ …heck many American cities(used to be great) don’t have what we see above.

I don't care who the American is, be it Trump, you or anyone else. If you are willing to trade your Constitution for some expensive building, go ahead and move there and you see how little these buildings mean to your happiness.

I've lacked freedom since I was a kid and the Creepy Ones were interested in misrepresenting me. Let me tell you, there is NOTHING like true freedom.

 

[toobfreak]

How do gulf state Arab cities look so incredible?​

EASY. They spend 100% of their wealth on THEMSELVES.

Meanwhile, the USA spent the money to discover their oil, teach them how to mine for it, gave them the technology to do it, then gave them billions of dollars to develop it so we could then buy it off of them for a profit ( to them).

In other words, the USA spends more of its money on developing other countries than it does on itself.

That is why their stuff looks like it does while all our cities look like Detroit.

 

[hjmick]

CGI.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah so there is an abundance of natural resources in plenty of areas in Africa and South America but they don’t have this,

Dubai
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Doha,

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Riyadh

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Why don’t cities in South America or Africa have this^ …heck many American cities(used to be great) don’t have what we see above.

Have you been anywhere in Africa or Latin America?

This is Harare, Zimbabwe doesn't have much in the way of natural resources, but it has shiny buildings.

Luanda in Angola, has oil money.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

I don't care who the American is, be it Trump, you or anyone else. If you are willing to trade your Constitution for some expensive building, go ahead and move there and you see how little these buildings mean to your happiness.

I've lacked freedom since I was a kid and the Creepy Ones were interested in misrepresenting me. Let me tell you, there is NOTHING like true freedom.

The USA used to have beautiful cities. Not anymore. That’s inexcusable.

Your way off on this one, perhaps comparing some poor totalitarian country from 50 years ago in eastern Europe to the United Arab Emirates or Qatar of today.

Happiness ….well how about the off the chart drug addiction, depression rates, record suicide rates, and record loneliness among young people in America today.

We got a dwindling middle class in America. A broken healthcare system. The argument I make is that the country was better for the middle class probably 75 years ago much better than today. The crumbling infrastructure is also inexcusable the potholes on the roads.

So I’ll ask it again to you why are the cities in the gulf countries so beautiful. And I will also throw in their incredibly low crime rate and strong middle class.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Have you been anywhere in Africa or Latin America?

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This is Harare, Zimbabwe doesn't have much in the way of natural resources, but it has shiny buildings.

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Luanda in Angola, has oil money.

That architecture and infrastructure is not on the level of Doha or Dubai …and the economy is a wreck throughout South America and Africa. Also the crime rates in the gulf states are extremely low. Compared to US cities that is.

This is not up for debate. The economic development of Africa has been stagnated tremendously. All throughout the continent. And so when you compare any major city in Africa or South America to Doha or Dubai, it is Doha and Dubai who come out ahead. What are you even trying to do itt… some kind of a far left-wing thing? Btw t’s not Black people. It’s not Latin Americans it is the governments of South America and Africa that have failed.

 

[drudge X]

Easy, like China, if they believe there's beneficial to the country, they build the structure. Unlike the US, the red tape can stretch for miles and sometimes decades and nothing is built.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

frigidweirdo

Wait, you’re about diversity and respecting different cultures like me right? I respect different cultures. I respect what I see with my own eyes. I have been to Singapore another place that is absolutely beautiful. The roads are great there ….no potholes on the roads. Go to Los Angeles by the airport It’s a shit hole flooded with potholes all over the place. To think it was once a great city.

Just slow down a bit recognize the greatness of these Arab people and what they have built. I mean you are again about multiculturalism right?

African cities can get there. They need to do away with their corrupt and backwards, greedy governments.

 

[frigidweirdo]

That architecture and infrastructure is not on the level of Doha or Dubai …and the economy is a wreck throughout South America and Africa. Also the crime rates in the gulf states are extremely low. Compared to US cities that is.

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This is not up for debate. The economic development of Africa has been stagnated tremendously. All throughout the continent. And so when you compare any major city in Africa or South America to Doha or Dubai, it is Doha and Dubai who come out ahead. What are you even trying to do itt… some kind of a far left-wing thing? Btw t’s not Black people. It’s not Latin Americans it is the governments of South America and Africa that have failed.

Yeah, there's a difference.

Crime is low because they have Islam.

List of countries by intentional homicide rate - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Take a look, Nigeria is 20th on the list, 53% Muslim. The reason they've risen in the list is because of violent conflict, more than crime.

Iraq is 27th (at least central Iraq) and has had issues since the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Iraq in general is at 43.

Then 58th you have Yemen.

And oil in the middle east is HUGE. These countries have small populations, kept in line with Islam, strong governments, basically repressive, willing to do what it takes.

You could take a country like the DRC and compare. It has a lot of jungle, making it easier to fight guerrilla war, and the west gets in and likes the fight because it makes resources cheaper.

Nigeria is the highest country on the list of oil production at 16th, below the UK.

List of countries by oil extraction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Algeria, Libya and Angola are next on the list. Libya got attacked by the UK, France and the US back in 2011 and then had civil war which those countries felt was ignorable. There are issues with western countries manipulating these places.

"Greatness"? No, I don't think so. These countries are corrupt and greedy too. They're just different.

 

[braalian]

Yeah so there is an abundance of natural resources in plenty of areas in Africa and South America but they don’t have this,

Dubai
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Doha,

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Riyadh

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Why don’t cities in South America or Africa have this^ …heck many American cities(used to be great) don’t have what we see above.

You say incredible, I say tacky

Paris, London, Rome. Those cities actually preserve their heritage and don’t look like tacky-ass, generic or hollow

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You say incredible, I say tacky

Paris, London, Rome. Those cities actually preserve their heritage and don’t look like tacky-ass, generic or hollow

Ok Well, why can’t we say the same about cities in South America or Africa? Or how about the economy in African and Latin American cities where there are tons of natural resources. Let’s just be honest here and call out the government of those areas for not being as successful as those in the gulf states.

Sure people are making these arguments about freedom in the gulf states. Why can’t America have roads without potholes like is the case with Singapore.

With the USA being the strongest country in the world economically and military, I see no reason at all why we have much higher crime rates in our cities as shown by the data. Why you go to a place like Los Angeles and the airport is a dump you go to the airport and Singapore or Doha and it is absolutely extraordinary.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

You say incredible, I say tacky

Paris, London, Rome. Those cities actually preserve their heritage and don’t look like tacky-ass, generic or hollow

Ok the Gulf cities basically built up when there was nothing there. That is absolutely incredible. It is breathtaking and it is inspiring. Well you are talking about cities that have had architecture last for a very long time. And that does go back to the Roman Empire and the success of medieval European cities, which I find to be impressive. Modern western Europe is a different topic … what I am talking about wrt Dubai and Doha for example are places that were largely deserts that have turned into some of the finest cities in the world

Modern Western European cities are also facing quite a few problems. Crime rates. Problem with stupid immigration laws. Radical leftism seeping into their societies. Don’t see that kind of nonsense in Dubai or Doha.

 

[TimFitz]

Yeah so there is an abundance of natural resources in plenty of areas in Africa and South America but they don’t have this,

Dubai
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Doha,

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Riyadh

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Why don’t cities in South America or Africa have this^ …heck many American cities(used to be great) don’t have what we see above.

14 mpg trucks py forit.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

14 mpg trucks py forit.

Haha ok

 

[AZrailwhale]

Yeah so there is an abundance of natural resources in plenty of areas in Africa and South America but they don’t have this,

Dubai
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Doha,

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Riyadh

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Why don’t cities in South America or Africa have this^ …heck many American cities(used to be great) don’t have what we see above.

Tons of money and slave labor.

 

[braalian]

Ok Well, why can’t we say the same about cities in South America or Africa? Or how about the economy in African and Latin American cities where there are tons of natural resources. Let’s just be honest here and call out the government of those areas for not being as successful as those in the gulf states.

Sure people are making these arguments about freedom in the gulf states. Why can’t America have roads without potholes like is the case with Singapore.

With the USA being the strongest country in the world economically and military, I see no reason at all why we have much higher crime rates in our cities as shown by the data. Why you go to a place like Los Angeles and the airport is a dump you go to the airport and Singapore or Doha and it is absolutely extraordinary.

Well, it’s easy not to have potholes when you’re country’s smaller than Rhode Island and you have a massive surplus of oil

 

[TimFitz]

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Ok the Gulf cities basically built up when there was nothing there. That is absolutely incredible. It is breathtaking and it is inspiring. Well you are talking about cities that have had architecture last for a very long time. And that does go back to the Roman Empire and the success of medieval European cities, which I find to be impressive. Modern western Europe is a different topic … what I am talking about wrt Dubai and Doha for example are places that were largely deserts that have turned into some of the finest cities in the world

Modern Western European cities are also facing quite a few problems. Crime rates. Problem with stupid immigration laws. Radical leftism seeping into their societies. Don’t see that kind of nonsense in Dubai or Doha.

Give me Paris, any day!

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Well, it’s easy not to have potholes when you’re country’s smaller than Rhode Island and you have a massive surplus of oil

Haha there’s plenty of examples of smaller and medium size countries utterly failing even though that have plenty of natural resources.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Tons of money and slave labor.

Not in the GCC… there’s plenty of immigrants coming from India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, and other really poor areas of the world to work in Dubai or Riyadh or Doha, where they make a lot more money. Do they encounter issues and some discrimination absolutely but bottom line they are making the decision to leave their country and go work elsewhere.

Slave like conditions are occurring more in areas throughout Africa and parts of Latin America.

Well Trump gets along incredibly with the countries like Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates. And I refuse to believe that he is somehow appeasing slave owners. So I just go by what I see and the common sense that is right in front of us every day the data. Like the crime data. And on many important metrics the gulf countries are doing way better than even a lot of western European ones. This has nothing to do with them being Muslim as to why I respect them. I said the same stuff about Singapore. You just have to go by what you see and the data.