How do good Americans and our democracy benefit from diversity again?

[bripat9643]

I’m really trying hard to wrap my head around it all....how exactly do Americans and American democracy benefit from diversity? Can someone articulate that to me?
It’s seems as though all the data strongly suggests otherwise...no?
Is the data racist?
Is Japan ******* themselves...Would they be kicking a bunch more ass if they imported millions from Mexico, Central and South America? If so, someone should let them know.

How'd that zero diversity work out for Japan in ww2?

We had Native American code talkers and Jew refugees making nuke bombs.

That's a justification for importing genius physicists. What's the excuse for importing ignorant Muslim savages and Mexican peasants?

Oh btw Mr racist your orange racist president's Mar-a-Lago architecture is mainly Moroccan (Islamic).

Yeah, so that happened only because we imported a bunch of Morrocans to this country? I think not. By the time it was built the airplane and the camera had already been invented.

And BTW, Islam isn't a race.

Airplane ? Abbas ibn Farnass google him.
Camera? Is an Arabic word and the technology behind it was from a Muslim man in Andalucia Spain. Google it....
I know none of this stuff you knew about. I sent blame you, but I blame both your parents and school system in the US.
In the 11th century, Arab physicist Ibn al-Haytham (Alhazen) wrote very influential essays about the camera obscura, including experiments with light through a small opening in a darkened room. Ibn al-Haytam's writings on optics became very influential in Europe through Latin translations, inspiring people such as Witelo, John Peckham, Roger Bacon, Leonardo Da Vinci, René Descartesand Johannes Kepler.[7]

Yeah, because an obviously bogus story about him pasting feathers onto his back and flying means he invented the airplane.

All that shows is how incredibly gullble you are.

 

[irosie91]

Oh yeah? Like where?

All this intermingling is creating a future of mocha colored Americans . Soon skin cancer will be a thing of the past . Too bad whites like you will be extinct soon. Well not really too bad. Neanderthals need to be replaced .

So that's a reason for us to import Mexican peasants and Muzzie savages?

NOT.

Muslims in general here in the US are one of the most successful minorities.


Fazlur Rahman Khan. The Dhaka-born Bangladeshi-American was known as the “Einstein of structural engineering”

Without Ayub Ommaya lots of people, some of them American, would be dead or suffering appalling pain. In 1963, the Pakistani-born Muslim neurosurgeon invented an intraventricular catheter system that can be used for the aspiration of cerebrospinal fluid or the delivery of drugs. What that means is that a soft, plastic, dome-shaped device is placed under the scalp

I know dozens of muslims like myself...all immigrants, they all upper middle class or rich...with higher education, speak multiple languages and live better than most US born whites.
Don't let racism make you stupid.

Indeed, a lot of the Muslims we've gotten thus far have been in the U.S.A at least have been largely the upper classes.

That still doesn't make everything peachy, however.

- Muslims of a higher class level are more likely to be terrorists.

- Muslims high class or not, are still more likely to support Sharia Law, and other oppressive religious elements.

- Muslims high class, or not change the culture of the U.S.A.

muslims hate women.

Ok...I'd that's what youbelieve. I'm a Muslim and never bragged or intended to grab women by the ***** nor molested little kids like some.

what I "believe"??? Nope---the people whom you are STRUGGLING to call "brown" told me. I have worked
and socialized with muslims from south east asia, Africa and
the middle east for the past 55 years (since I was an adolescent)
My very own hubby was born in a shariah shit hole in the middle
east-----one of the first lands invaded by the scum of Arabia way
back more than one thousand years ago. Arabs call themselves
"WHITE" but now there is some sort of ADVANTAGE in calling
oneself "brown"------so they (LIKE YOU) GRAB AT IT.
Anthropologists (the guys who DEFINE "race") call south east
Asians and arabs 'Caucasian' ------get over it------you do not
have the GOOD FORTUNE to claim "brown"--and socially----in
the world of islam----DO NOT WANT IT. Based on
the idiocy now claimed by THE UMMAH-----I have decided to
call myself PURPLE. For the record----the most "color
conscious" people I have encountered have been IRANIANS.
Iranian muslims hate arab muslims and happily call them
either brown or shit

 

[SeaGal]

I’m really trying hard to wrap my head around it all....how exactly do Americans and American democracy benefit from diversity? Can someone articulate that to me?
It’s seems as though all the data strongly suggests otherwise...no?
Is the data racist?
Is Japan ******* themselves...Would they be kicking a bunch more ass if they imported millions from Mexico, Central and South America? If so, someone should let them know.

I used to believe that our diversity was our strength.

But that's not exactly true. Our strength and success lies in the blending of diverse cultures and ideas, protected by the Constitution. Now we've reached the point where there are efforts to throw out parts of the Constitution and separate folks into groups again....in some cases based on nothing more important than skin color.

American democracy has not benefitted because citizens have varying skin tones - America thrives because our form of government 'protects' the opportunity for all citizens to thrive regardless of skin tone, or accent.

 

[Mac1958]

I’m really trying hard to wrap my head around it all....how exactly do Americans and American democracy benefit from diversity? Can someone articulate that to me?
It’s seems as though all the data strongly suggests otherwise...no?
Is the data racist?
Is Japan ******* themselves...Would they be kicking a bunch more ass if they imported millions from Mexico, Central and South America? If so, someone should let them know.

I used to believe that our diversity was our strength.

But that's not exactly true. Our strength and success lies in the blending of diverse cultures and ideas, protected by the Constitution. Now we've reached the point where there are efforts to throw out parts of the Constitution and separate folks into groups again....in some cases based on nothing more important than skin color.

American democracy has not benefitted because citizens have varying skin tones - America thrives because our form of government 'protects' the opportunity for all citizens to thrive regardless of skin tone, or accent.

Very good point. Diversity is indeed a great strength, but it's badly weakened when our differences are instead used against us for political gain. We've been divided into so many competing grievance groups, including race, that we've lost sight of our commonality. Our commonality is our strength when it's a priority.

That's the danger of Identity Politics. Where we are now was predictable. SO predictable, in fact, that it's fair to wonder if this was the intent of Identity Politics to begin with.
.

 

[irosie91]

I was a thinking person at the time "affirmative action" ----got into
DA SYSTEM. Of course----congenital liberal me supported the
idea. SOCIAL JUSTICE!!!!!! Of course, also, there was a down-
side. The whole idea FOCUSED on "racial" differences----the very
idea that we, of the KUMBAYA generation wanted to fade away..
I saw the down-side-------but never imagined just how DOWN it would
become. There is, lately------a RUSH TO CLAIM """RACE"""----
for several reasons. CLAMING RACE has its advantages------
socially, politically, economically............who woodah thunk?

 

[TheParser]

Whenever I hear discussions about our immigration policies or about affirmative action policies, self-identified "liberals"
always say something like: "Diversity is our strength."

They sincerely believe that a country is stronger and more successful when ALL voices are heard at the table.

And they may be right, of course.

*****

Personally, societal harmony is my number one concern.

So if I had my druthers, I should prefer a society like Norway's or Japan's where almost the entire population has the same cultural values.

 

[alang1216]

Well, not all of the elite are exactly the same, probably nearly half the elite in this country is Jewish, and then another near half is Anglo.

Wow! The Jewish population of the US is about 1.5% and yet they make up nearly half the US elite? They are obviously much smarter than Anglos.

Jews are definitely very, very ambitious, and there's been some very smart Jews too like Einstein, Oppenheimer etc., however, I wouldn't exactly call most Jews as logical, quite the opposite a lot of Jews support a lot of illogical ideals in general.

If 1.5% of the population can basically run this country they are obviously far superior to the average white. What makes them such supermen?

 

[pismoe]

and the 'original berber' brags in one of his posts that he is WHITE and thats funny Tim !!

Didn't brag I lectured you since you dont know shit.
Oh and Morocco/Berbers was the first country to recognize the independence of the US google it son. I'm here to help !!!

------------------------------------ big deal , so 'morroco' recognized reality Isis .

 

[pismoe]

plus the most interesting thing to me is that IMPORTED people like 'isis' are organizing to remove Americans Constitutional RIGHTS [read his posts concerning guns and Freedom of Speech and sadly he has the vote] . Funny as 'ell' in my opinion .

 

[pismoe]

and see the silliness that 'isis' speaks and if American people have any sense they will realize that taxpayer paid public school teachers from foreign lands , cultures and traditions teach the same silliness that 'isis' spouts on this board in Public Schools to young Americans .

 

[irosie91]

and the 'original berber' brags in one of his posts that he is WHITE and thats funny Tim !!

Didn't brag I lectured you since you dont know shit.
Oh and Morocco/Berbers was the first country to recognize the independence of the US google it son. I'm here to help !!!

------------------------------------ big deal , so 'morroco' recognizes reality Isis .

Morocco was berber at one time, but the more "muslim" it became---
and IS BECOMING even now-----the more it dipped and is dipping
itself into the cosmic sewer

 

[pismoe]

just hearing a moment ago on FOX that a 'morrocan' has been arrested doing some nefarious type work for Americas enemies .

 

[irosie91]

just hearing a moment ago on FOX that a 'morrocan' has been arrested doing some nefarious type work for Americas enemies .

the real berbers have become PERVERTED

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Well, we’re 250+ posts in. How about a recap...what have we learned so far?
“How does U.S. democracy benefit from diversity?”
“How do U.S. citizens benefit from diversity?”

I’ve com up with...citizens benefit from food, music and a peek into cultural differences.
Nobody has explained how our democracy benefits.
I mean, if politicians are going to force Americans to allow them to shit on the U.S. Constitution shouldn’t Americans and our democracy atleast be the beneficiary of such?

You ignore the positives . USA has been diverse since day one . And we’ve become the greatest country . So it’s on you to explain why it’s bad .

How does it hurt? 250 in and you can’t give a good example . Other than it annoys racists .

LOL, the U.S.A, like Australia, and Canada were at an advantage over Europe due to having much more resources, and avoiding a lot of economically crippling wars caused by "Diverse Balkanization" in Europe.

As to why the U.S.A is slightly ahead of Australia, and Canada, while it maybe true that "diversity" played a role , but it's "White Diversity" however that's likely the culprit, and that it's actually because the U.S.A lured in a lot of White Catholic, and , or Jewish elites from Ireland, Poland, and Italy etc.

Indeed, if we look at regions of the U.S.A of a similar ethnicity as Australia, and Canada (The Southern, and some of the Western states) where British Protestant backgrounds prevail like in Australia, and Canada, then there's virtually no difference in wealth between the U.S.A vs Australia & Canada.

The brains behind the door boom, silicon valley and others is the diversity and HB1Visa. Walk around there and you see lot of brown people from almost everywhere. You guys need to get over your superiority complex.

Indians have a lot of genes from Aryans from the Steppes of Ukraine / Russia.... Especially the high caste ones....

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Well, not all of the elite are exactly the same, probably nearly half the elite in this country is Jewish, and then another near half is Anglo.

Wow! The Jewish population of the US is about 1.5% and yet they make up nearly half the US elite? They are obviously much smarter than Anglos.

Jews are definitely very, very ambitious, and there's been some very smart Jews too like Einstein, Oppenheimer etc., however, I wouldn't exactly call most Jews as logical, quite the opposite a lot of Jews support a lot of illogical ideals in general.

If 1.5% of the population can basically run this country they are obviously far superior to the average white. What makes them such supermen?

Jews are still definitely a net negative, they cause a lot of mayhem.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Diversity sucks. Just a way to destroy a country's culture. We are seeing it big time in the US and it is despicable.

Oh yeah? Like where?

All this intermingling is creating a future of mocha colored Americans . Soon skin cancer will be a thing of the past . Too bad whites like you will be extinct soon. Well not really too bad. Neanderthals need to be replaced .

So that's a reason for us to import Mexican peasants and Muzzie savages?

NOT.

Muslims in general here in the US are one of the most successful minorities.


Fazlur Rahman Khan. The Dhaka-born Bangladeshi-American was known as the “Einstein of structural engineering”

Without Ayub Ommaya lots of people, some of them American, would be dead or suffering appalling pain. In 1963, the Pakistani-born Muslim neurosurgeon invented an intraventricular catheter system that can be used for the aspiration of cerebrospinal fluid or the delivery of drugs. What that means is that a soft, plastic, dome-shaped device is placed under the scalp

I know dozens of muslims like myself...all immigrants, they all upper middle class or rich...with higher education, speak multiple languages and live better than most US born whites.
Don't let racism make you stupid.

They are also successful at shooting up people, bombing, running vehicles into people and crashing airplanes into buildings. They belong to a vile group that have declared war on Christians, Jews and non believers. Who wants those little shits and there burkas and their Sharia law and all the other shitty Middle East cultural things? That is not America.

Most mass shooters are white. Muslims are one the least minorities who commit crimes in the US. Oh jesus is middle eastern and the virgin Mary were held burka, what's wrong ?

LOL, Whites are actually under-represented in mass-shooters.

 

[pismoe]

just hearing a moment ago on FOX that a 'morrocan' has been arrested doing some nefarious type work for Americas enemies .

the real berbers have become PERVERTED

-------------------------------------- 'morocans' have been perverted for a long time going back years and centuries i reckon but i'll check . But here from 2008 is an article on 'moroccan' terrorist recruiting and the page i was looking at was quite large with many examples . ------------- --- Uncovering Extremist Violence in Morocco – Combating Terrorism Center at West Point --- this info from 2008 mentions 2003 and the incident from today is not up yet Rosie .

 

[irosie91]

Well, we’re 250+ posts in. How about a recap...what have we learned so far?
“How does U.S. democracy benefit from diversity?”
“How do U.S. citizens benefit from diversity?”

I’ve com up with...citizens benefit from food, music and a peek into cultural differences.
Nobody has explained how our democracy benefits.
I mean, if politicians are going to force Americans to allow them to shit on the U.S. Constitution shouldn’t Americans and our democracy atleast be the beneficiary of such?

You ignore the positives . USA has been diverse since day one . And we’ve become the greatest country . So it’s on you to explain why it’s bad .

How does it hurt? 250 in and you can’t give a good example . Other than it annoys racists .

LOL, the U.S.A, like Australia, and Canada were at an advantage over Europe due to having much more resources, and avoiding a lot of economically crippling wars caused by "Diverse Balkanization" in Europe.

As to why the U.S.A is slightly ahead of Australia, and Canada, while it maybe true that "diversity" played a role , but it's "White Diversity" however that's likely the culprit, and that it's actually because the U.S.A lured in a lot of White Catholic, and , or Jewish elites from Ireland, Poland, and Italy etc.

Indeed, if we look at regions of the U.S.A of a similar ethnicity as Australia, and Canada (The Southern, and some of the Western states) where British Protestant backgrounds prevail like in Australia, and Canada, then there's virtually no difference in wealth between the U.S.A vs Australia & Canada.

The brains behind the door boom, silicon valley and others is the diversity and HB1Visa. Walk around there and you see lot of brown people from almost everywhere. You guys need to get over your superiority complex.

Indians have a lot of genes from Aryans from the Steppes of Ukraine / Russia.... Especially the high caste ones....

sobie------you have a GIANT PIEROGI complex

 

[pismoe]

Well, not all of the elite are exactly the same, probably nearly half the elite in this country is Jewish, and then another near half is Anglo.

Wow! The Jewish population of the US is about 1.5% and yet they make up nearly half the US elite? They are obviously much smarter than Anglos.

Jews are definitely very, very ambitious, and there's been some very smart Jews too like Einstein, Oppenheimer etc., however, I wouldn't exactly call most Jews as logical, quite the opposite a lot of Jews support a lot of illogical ideals in general.

If 1.5% of the population can basically run this country they are obviously far superior to the average white. What makes them such supermen?

Jews are still definitely a net negative, they cause a lot of mayhem.

--------------------------- seems to me that Jews are fine at least in the USA . Nice people for the most part and except for their liberal dem leanings [heard about] are pretty nice people sometimes with an attitude . Anyway , i have met Jews of different political leanings for years since 1969 in Miami Beach and they seem harmless and nice to me . Plus i see what Israelis have done in Israel and thats impressive .

 

[alang1216]

Jews are still definitely a net negative, they cause a lot of mayhem.

I've always wondered, are they considered a race, a religion, a culture, or some combination?