How do good Americans and our democracy benefit from diversity again?

[bripat9643]

not a complete list but muslims , the muslim gawd , female genital mutilation , berbers , iraqis , afghanis , somalis , sharia law , beheadings , stonings , shiites , sunnis plus more non Western delights are some of the bad things Alang .

So all Berbers, Iraqis, afghans, and Somalis are naturally evil people or is it just because they are Muslim? Do you know any of these peoples? How many beheadings or stonings have taken place in this country? Where has Sharia law replaced the US Constitution?

Me thinks you speak from fear and ignorance rather from reality.

Muslim = evil.

beheadings and stonings don't occur in this country because we don't allow it.

 

[pismoe]

these people are cwazy BRipat . [its funny]

 

[bripat9643]

Diversity is a test. Either you're well adjusted and pass or you prove you don't play well with others and before you know it your chromosomes

Testing us is not a legitimate function of government, numskull.

 

[bripat9643]

Diversity is a test. Either you're well adjusted and pass or you prove you don't play well with others and before you know it your chromosomes

Pizza, tacos, sushi, egg rolls, Kosher pastrami, humus to name a few benefits.

Funny thing here is that Pizza in Italy, and Tacos in Mexico wouldn't be preferable over ones made in America, quite the opposite actually, typically at least, with some exceptions based on individual preferences.

Yeah, there are authentic and Americanized versions, that's not exactly what I would call a knock on diversity. Enjoy your cabbage.

---------------------------------------- the ting is , what is best for American society and diverstity is NOT best for AMERICAN Society HJoy .

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

All that means is that American corporations will have to pay hire wages. Low wages are not a good thing.

 

[Markle]

Diversity is a test. Either you're well adjusted and pass or you prove you don't play well with others and before you know it your chromosomes

Funny thing here is that Pizza in Italy, and Tacos in Mexico wouldn't be preferable over ones made in America, quite the opposite actually, typically at least, with some exceptions based on individual preferences.

Yeah, there are authentic and Americanized versions, that's not exactly what I would call a knock on diversity. Enjoy your cabbage.

---------------------------------------- the ting is , what is best for American society and diverstity is NOT best for AMERICAN Society HJoy .

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

NEGATIVE
Illegals and or barely legals are self serving...they’re pretty much an economy within our economy. If they all vanished tomorrow nobody would care. Simple shit.

The immigration reality: We need workers, not a wall

The U.S. economy needs more legal immigrants, not fewer. Our annual labor force growth has dropped to only 0.5 percent, from more than 1 percent as recently as the 1990s. The pool of native-born workers with native-born parents will shrink by 8 million in the next 20 years.

Without immigration, our overall workforce will soon begin to decline, reducing the potential growth rate of the economy and imposing huge strains on federal retirement programs at a time when millions of baby boomers are leaving the workforce every year.

Where has anyone said that we do not need, and should stop legal immigration?

 

[pismoe]

Diversity is a test. Either you're well adjusted and pass or you prove you don't play well with others and before you know it your chromosomes
Yeah, there are authentic and Americanized versions, that's not exactly what I would call a knock on diversity. Enjoy your cabbage.

---------------------------------------- the ting is , what is best for American society and diverstity is NOT best for AMERICAN Society HJoy .

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

NEGATIVE
Illegals and or barely legals are self serving...they’re pretty much an economy within our economy. If they all vanished tomorrow nobody would care. Simple shit.

The immigration reality: We need workers, not a wall

The U.S. economy needs more legal immigrants, not fewer. Our annual labor force growth has dropped to only 0.5 percent, from more than 1 percent as recently as the 1990s. The pool of native-born workers with native-born parents will shrink by 8 million in the next 20 years.

Without immigration, our overall workforce will soon begin to decline, reducing the potential growth rate of the economy and imposing huge strains on federal retirement programs at a time when millions of baby boomers are leaving the workforce every year.

Where has anyone said that we do not need, and should stop legal immigration?

--------------------------------------------------- [raising hand] That'd be ME , we - I don't need or want any immigration legal or illegal especially as it has been since 'dead kennedy's' redo of immigration in 65 - 66 . All immigration to the USA should be stopped Markle .

 

[mudwhistle]

not a complete list but muslims , the muslim gawd , female genital mutilation , berbers , iraqis , afghanis , somalis , sharia law , beheadings , stonings , shiites , sunnis plus more non Western delights are some of the bad things Alang .

So all Berbers, Iraqis, afghans, and Somalis are naturally evil people or is it just because they are Muslim? Do you know any of these peoples? How many beheadings or stonings have taken place in this country? Where has Sharia law replaced the US Constitution?

Me thinks you speak from fear and ignorance rather from reality.

Actually anyone who pays attention to the history of Islam and reads the Koran....it's pretty damned clear what happens when enough Muslims move into any country.

4 Stages of Islamic Conquest
By Civilus Defendus (video, pdf)

STAGE 1: INFILTRATION

Muslims begin moving to non-Muslim countries in increasing numbers and the beginning of cultural conflicts are visible, though often subtle.

• First migration wave to non-Muslim “host” country.
• Appeal for humanitarian tolerance from the host society.
• Attempts to portray Islam as a peaceful & Muslims as victims of misunderstanding and racism (even though Islam is not a ‘race’).
• High Muslim birth rate in host country increase Muslim population.
• Mosques used to spread Islam and dislike of host country & culture.
• Calls to criminalize “Islamophobia” as a hate crime.
• Threatened legal action for perceived discrimination.
• Offers of “interfaith dialogue” to indoctrinate non-Muslims.

How many nations are suffering from Islamic infiltration? One? A handful? Nearly every nation? The Islamic ‘leadership” of the Muslim Brotherhood and others wish to dissolve each nation’s sovereignty and replace it with the global imposition of Islamic sharia law. Sharia law, based on the koran, sira and hadith, condemns liberty and forbids equality and is inconsistent with the laws of all Western nations. As the author and historian Serge Trifkovic states:

“The refusal of the Western elite class to protect their nations from jihadist infiltration is the biggest betrayal in history.”

STAGE 2: CONSOLIDATION OF POWER

Muslim immigrants and host country converts continue demands for accommodation in employment, education, social services, financing and courts.

• Proselytizing increases; Establishment and Recruitment of Jihadi cells.
• Efforts to convert alienated segments of the population to Islam.
• Revisionist efforts to Islamize history.
• Efforts to destroy historic evidence that reveal true Islamism.
• Increased anti-western propaganda and psychological warfare.
• Efforts to recruit allies who share similar goals (communists, anarchists).
• Attempts to indoctrinate children to Islamist viewpoint.
• Increased efforts to intimidate, silence and eliminate non-Muslims.
• Efforts to introduce blasphemy and hate laws in order to silence critics.
• Continued focus on enlarging Muslim population by increasing Muslim births and immigration.
• Use of charities to recruit supporters and fund jihad.
• Covert efforts to bring about the destruction of host society from within.
• Development of Muslim political base in non-Muslim host society.
• Islamic Financial networks fund political growth, acquisition of land.
• Highly visible assassination of critics aimed to intimidate opposition.
• Tolerance of non-Muslims diminishes.
• Greater demands to adopt strict Islamic conduct.
• Clandestine amassing of weapons and explosives in hidden locations.
• Overt disregard/rejection of non-Muslim society’s legal system, culture.
• Efforts to undermine and destroy power base of non-Muslim religions including and especially Jews and Christians.

Is there a pattern here? Theo van Gogh is murdered in the Netherlands for ‘insulting’ Islam; the Organization of the Islamic Conference demands ‘anti-blasphemy’ laws through the United Nations; France is set afire regularly by ‘youths’ (read Muslims); the rise of (dis-) honor killings…holocaust denial…anti-Semitism…deception re the tenets of Islam; hatred toward Christians and Jews and Hindus and Buddhists. The pattern for all to see is the rise of Islamic intolerance and the covert/cultural jihad to remake host societies into sharia-compliant worlds – to remove host sovereignty and replace it with Islamic sharia law. Sharia law that condemns earthly liberty and individual freedom, that forbids equality among faiths and between the sexes, that rejects the concept of nations outside the global house of Islam, that of dar al-Islam.

STAGE 3: OPEN WAR w/ LEADERSHIP & CULTURE

Open violence to impose Sharia law and associated cultural restrictions; rejection of host government, subjugation of other religions and customs.

• Intentional efforts to undermine the host government & culture.
• Acts of barbarity to intimidate citizens and foster fear and submission.
• Open and covert efforts to cause economic collapse of the society.
• All opposition is challenged and either eradicated or silenced.
• Mass execution of non-Muslims.
• Widespread ethnic cleansing by Islamic militias.
• Rejection and defiance of host society secular laws or culture.
• Murder of “moderate” Muslim intellectuals who don’t support Islamization.
• Destruction of churches, synagogues and other non-Muslim institutions.
• Women are restricted further in accordance with Sharia law.
• Large-scale destruction of population, assassinations, bombings.
• Toppling of government and usurpation of political power.
• Imposition of Sharia law

The website www.thereligionofpeace.com keeps track of the number of violent jihad attacks as best it can. The site lists more than 14,000 attacks since September 2001. It is worth a visit. What is occurring, however, that is likely inestimable are events where muslims are bullied by other muslims for not being “muslim enough,” where non-Muslims are intimidated into doing or not doing what they desire, where remnant populations are in a death spiral simply for being non-muslim in a predominantly muslim area. Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists Animists and Atheists meet with death, property destruction or confiscation, forced conversion, rape, excessive taxation (the jizya), enslavement, riotous mobs and various other forms of islam (in-) justice at the hands of muslims in Sudan, Philippines, Kenya, Malaysia, India, etc. And let us not forget ‘death to Apostates’ the world over.

STAGE 4: Totalitarian ISLAMIC “THEOCRACY”

Islam becomes the only religious-political-judicial-cultural ideology.

• Sharia becomes the “law of the land.
• All non-Islamic human rights cancelled.
• Enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim population.
• Freedom of speech and the press eradicated.
• All religions other than Islam are forbidden and destroyed.
• Destruction of all evidence of non-Muslim culture, populations and symbols in country (Buddhas, houses of worship, art, etc).

The House of Islam (“peace”), dar al-Islam, includes those nations that have submitted to Islamic rule, to the soul crushing, liberty-condemning, discriminatory law of Sharia. The rest of the world in in the House of War, dar al-harb, because it does not submit to Sharia, and exists in a state of rebellion or war with the will of ‘Allah.’ No non-Muslim state or its citizens are “innocent,” and remain viable targets of war for not believing in ‘Allah.’ The Christian, Jewish, Coptic, Hindu and Zoroastrian peoples of world have suffered under subjugation for centuries. The Dhimmi-esque are forbidden to construct houses of worship or repair existing ones, economically crippled by the heavy jizya (tax), socially humiliated, legally discriminated against, criminally targeted and generally kept in a permanent state of weakness, fear and vulnerability by Islamic governments.

It should be noted that forced conversions (Egypt) and slavery (Sudan) are still reported. Homosexuals have been hung in the public square in Iran. Young girls are married to old men. Apostates are threatened with death. “Honor” killings are routine. Women are legally second-class citizens, though Muslim males insist they are “treated better” than in the West. These more obvious manifestations may distract from some less obvious ones such as the lack of intellectual inquiry in science, narrow scope of writing, all but non-existent art and music, sexual use and abuse of youth and women, and the disregard for personal fulfillment, joy and wonder. Look into the eyes of a recently married 12 year old girl to see the consequence of the moral deprivation spawned by Islam.

The 4 Stages of Islamic Conquest is also available in pdf format for easy sharing as part of “Liberty vs Sharia” (Click, save, share. Attribution appreciated.)



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[bripat9643]

Diversity is a test. Either you're well adjusted and pass or you prove you don't play well with others and before you know it your chromosomes
Yeah, there are authentic and Americanized versions, that's not exactly what I would call a knock on diversity. Enjoy your cabbage.

---------------------------------------- the ting is , what is best for American society and diverstity is NOT best for AMERICAN Society HJoy .

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

NEGATIVE
Illegals and or barely legals are self serving...they’re pretty much an economy within our economy. If they all vanished tomorrow nobody would care. Simple shit.

The immigration reality: We need workers, not a wall

The U.S. economy needs more legal immigrants, not fewer. Our annual labor force growth has dropped to only 0.5 percent, from more than 1 percent as recently as the 1990s. The pool of native-born workers with native-born parents will shrink by 8 million in the next 20 years.

Without immigration, our overall workforce will soon begin to decline, reducing the potential growth rate of the economy and imposing huge strains on federal retirement programs at a time when millions of baby boomers are leaving the workforce every year.

Where has anyone said that we do not need, and should stop legal immigration?

I have. We don't need immigration, period.

 

[Markle]

I'm not sure who is 'rioting' but 15 bucks is next to nothing.

Really?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

yeah , health insurance , you youngers cry about it and many who have it can't afford it . And then from what i hear many of you youngers live in your Moms basement because you can't get out on your own . Plus you youngers are throwing away your Constitutional RIGHTS as regards guns and FREE Speech as you youngers then yell and cry for 15 dollars an hour . Its funny , i was married with 3 kids at 22 , a good job with health insurance , a house [mortgage] and 10 acres of land [hardwoods] , a 40 hour work week with occasional overtime at time and a half , a family car , a motorcycle or 2 and a snow machine plus a pair of WESCSO Boss boots . Yeah , you youngers have fine quality of life as you cry and yell for 15 dollars an hour and health insurance plus subsidized disposable diapers [chuckle] and talk about Quality of Life and Diversity HJoy .

So, other than the rambling about how good you think you have it you also like to make huge rash assumptions, don't you?

--------------------------------------- ASSUMPTIONS , maybe but i don't think so , i see where the USA Society is headed imo . Course it is assumptions and guessing but i personally think that young people are pretty stupid as they rant and rave for stupid ideas like diversity that their Grandparents [if they had brains] would have probably rejected HJoy .

We need diversity. Our economy for one depends on it, you're 68, you should know that the rest of the country can't support you with our current population. Maybe we should have death panels.

Japan's got that problem of a diminished population, and an aging population with little immigration, and yet Japan does pretty well, while perhaps not quite as rich, in just about every other factor Japan wins out over the U.S.A, and yes including crime / murder rates, which obviously also impact society a lot too.

 

[Markle]

---------------------------------------- the ting is , what is best for American society and diverstity is NOT best for AMERICAN Society HJoy .

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

NEGATIVE
Illegals and or barely legals are self serving...they’re pretty much an economy within our economy. If they all vanished tomorrow nobody would care. Simple shit.

The immigration reality: We need workers, not a wall

The U.S. economy needs more legal immigrants, not fewer. Our annual labor force growth has dropped to only 0.5 percent, from more than 1 percent as recently as the 1990s. The pool of native-born workers with native-born parents will shrink by 8 million in the next 20 years.

Without immigration, our overall workforce will soon begin to decline, reducing the potential growth rate of the economy and imposing huge strains on federal retirement programs at a time when millions of baby boomers are leaving the workforce every year.

Where has anyone said that we do not need, and should stop legal immigration?

I have. We don't need immigration, period.

110% WRONG!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

how long has Poland been rebounding eh . And 'germany' being 'catholic' sounds like they are stupid 'papists' with their importation of 'muslims' eh SOB . And maybe all 'german' catholics are stupid . My only real point is that the USA was Protestant built by Protestants [mostly] and it is the pinnacle of human civilization SOB .

Germany's about 1/3rd Catholic, 1/3rd Protestant, and 1/3rd Atheist, however those 1/3rd Atheist's are mostly of a formerly Protestant background.

How do you figure the U.S.A is the pinnacle of Human civilization, exactly?

The U.S.A clearly has a lot of issues from Black inner-city places like Detroit, Saint Louis, New Orleans, to rural White Appalachia like rural West Virginia, and rural Kentucky....

 

[pismoe]

Markle says ' I ' am WRONG , Markle says that i am WRONG so ithat must be true as i roll my eyes eh Markle !!

 

[bripat9643]

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

NEGATIVE
Illegals and or barely legals are self serving...they’re pretty much an economy within our economy. If they all vanished tomorrow nobody would care. Simple shit.

The immigration reality: We need workers, not a wall

The U.S. economy needs more legal immigrants, not fewer. Our annual labor force growth has dropped to only 0.5 percent, from more than 1 percent as recently as the 1990s. The pool of native-born workers with native-born parents will shrink by 8 million in the next 20 years.

Without immigration, our overall workforce will soon begin to decline, reducing the potential growth rate of the economy and imposing huge strains on federal retirement programs at a time when millions of baby boomers are leaving the workforce every year.

Where has anyone said that we do not need, and should stop legal immigration?

I have. We don't need immigration, period.

110% WRONG!

Why do we need immigration?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

how long has Poland been rebounding eh . And 'germany' being 'catholic' sounds like they are stupid 'papists' with their importation of 'muslims' eh SOB . And maybe all 'german' catholics are stupid . My only real point is that the USA was Protestant built by Protestants [mostly] and it is the pinnacle of human civilization SOB .

Hate to tell ya' but quality of life now in the United States is better than it was in the old timey days.

What's the old timey days, exactly?

If you meant when people died in mass from disease, didn't have plumbing, nor electricity. (Yes, obviously)

If you meant when people didn't have these problems above, but were more social due to lack of technology, had better job security, had less student debt, had a higher real hourly wage, and didn't have to live in fear of terrorism, or mass shootings happening much more frequently (No, probably not)

 

[pismoe]

how long has Poland been rebounding eh . And 'germany' being 'catholic' sounds like they are stupid 'papists' with their importation of 'muslims' eh SOB . And maybe all 'german' catholics are stupid . My only real point is that the USA was Protestant built by Protestants [mostly] and it is the pinnacle of human civilization SOB .

Germany's about 1/3rd Catholic, 1/3rd Protestant, and 1/3rd Atheist, however those 1/3rd Atheist's are mostly of a formerly Protestant background.

How do you figure the U.S.A is the pinnacle of Human civilization, exactly?

The U.S.A clearly has a lot of issues from Black inner-city places like Detroit, Saint Louis, New Orleans, to rural White Appalachia like rural West Virginia, and rural Kentucky....

----------------------------------------- most POWERFUL and the BEST for Most Americans in the USA and everyone eats and lives pretty well . Even the homeless run around with a chicken leg in each hand . Apalachians eat and live for the most part same as those in Chicago and 'deeeetroit' but life is not perfect for everyone everywhere that i know of . Heck , even YOU that identifies as POLISH are here in the USA SOB

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Diversity is a test. Either you're well adjusted and pass or you prove you don't play well with others and before you know it your chromosomes

Funny thing here is that Pizza in Italy, and Tacos in Mexico wouldn't be preferable over ones made in America, quite the opposite actually, typically at least, with some exceptions based on individual preferences.

Yeah, there are authentic and Americanized versions, that's not exactly what I would call a knock on diversity. Enjoy your cabbage.

---------------------------------------- the ting is , what is best for American society and diverstity is NOT best for AMERICAN Society HJoy .

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

Yeah, well shrinking the workforce is actually good for the Middle-Class wages, as it forces them to hire at higher wages due to labor shortages, what you're describing is good for growing massive profits for mostly just the wealthy....

The workforce won't be able to keep up and our economy would shrink, fewer people would buy goods and wages would drop.

I don't think there's any kind of real benefit, any benefits you speak of would be completely outweighed by immigrants undermining wages, immigrants cutting Americans out of jobs, and immigrants putting more pressures on the tax system.

 

[Markle]

Japan's got that problem of a diminished population, and an aging population with little immigration, and yet Japan does pretty well, while perhaps not quite as rich, in just about every other factor Japan wins out over the U.S.A, and yes including crime / murder rates, which obviously also impact society a lot too.

Really? Japan has been in a recession for well over a decade. As a nationality, they have a far different culture than we do as a nation. It goes back centuries.

The pressure put on their children also manifests itself in a suicide rate in Japan which is about 30% higher than ours in the United States. The United State #48 = 12.6 per 100,000 and Japan #26 = 15.4 per 100,000.

 

[pismoe]

As far as the religious breakdown in Germany , thank you . Looks like all groups of germans are pretty stupid as they keep electing 'merkle' SOB .

 

[HappyJoy]

Diversity is a test. Either you're well adjusted and pass or you prove you don't play well with others and before you know it your chromosomes
Yeah, there are authentic and Americanized versions, that's not exactly what I would call a knock on diversity. Enjoy your cabbage.

---------------------------------------- the ting is , what is best for American society and diverstity is NOT best for AMERICAN Society HJoy .

That's not true. For example we need immigration otherwise our workforce will shrink and therefore our economy.

Yeah, well shrinking the workforce is actually good for the Middle-Class wages, as it forces them to hire at higher wages due to labor shortages, what you're describing is good for growing massive profits for mostly just the wealthy....

The workforce won't be able to keep up and our economy would shrink, fewer people would buy goods and wages would drop.

I don't think there's any kind of real benefit, any benefits you speak of would be completely outweighed by immigrants undermining wages, immigrants cutting Americans out of jobs, and immigrants putting more pressures on the tax system.

Are you even an American?

There will not be enough Americans to do American jobs.