How do Bill Clinton's actions relate in any way to Hillary Clinton's qualifications to be President?
In discussing this, bear in mind, that the only PROVEN actions of Bill Clinton involved his stepping out with CONSENTING, adult females.
They relate to her qualifications in the same manner that lewd comments between friends in a dressing room relates to Trump's qualifications - IOW not one iota. That is not what the people want though - they are not interested in qualifications or policy positions. They are interested in tabloid bullshit.
FA_Q2 - long time no see. I decided to get back into it as the election nears.
Welcome back. Always nice to have some level headed people here even if we rarely agree
Don't you think there is a difference between words actually uttered by a candidate that clearly reflect an attitude that is, or should be (at least to voting women) highly relevant to his qualifications to be president, and actions by one spouse over which the candidate spouse had no control and which she obviously disagreed with?
No, I honestly do not.
The problem I have is that everyone comes out with this holier than thou BS about how horrified they are with these statements and it is BS. I hear worse on a daily bases at my workplace and on the street let alone what you hear in locker rooms between celebrities. I could care less about his locker room banter - it is meaningless and a distraction. What matter is actual policy. I didn't care about Bill and his exploits either and we are deluding ourselves if we are going to pretend that past presidents were somehow above such things. They are rich and they are powerful and they behave like it. I guarantee that there is far worse that both candidates have said (and done) behind closed doors and I could not care less.
What I want to know is what are they going to do with their position that will benefit the nation. Looking at the candidates for what they stand for I can honestly say that they are both absolutely unqualified for the position without question.
I will agree with you to an extent on the locker room comment thing. I think there is a pretty good amount of faux outrage circulating over Trump's 2005 comments but, the thing is, faux outrage is oftentimes a force to be reckoned with - especially when comments like this are about women, who comprise more than half of the electorate. Truth known, his comments didn't bother me that much either although I must admit, I have never heard anyone talking about just walking up to a strange woman and grabbing her by the crotch.
I have honestly heard a lot worse but then again I am in the military and we can be a raunchy bunch. Some very honorable people that I would trust my life with have said things that make what Trump said seem paltry and I do not fault them for idle banter.
I never said that it was not a force to be reckoned with - I am aware of the political ramifications. My general point is that it is not only very sad but also very pathetic that our political system is reduced to that kind of garbage. The electorate continually complains that the candidates running are sub-par and do not represent the people but then reduce political campaigns to this type of back and fourth drama show.
On qualifications, it seems to me that Hillary is extremely well qualified while Trump is just the opposite. First off, I don't buy most of the criticism of Hillary that is coming from the right. Secondly, Trump's lack of qualifications seem to me to be self-evident and reinforced on a daily basis, right out in front of God and everybody.
I don't really care what the right has to say either but I do care about her performance and I do have serious issues with her need to lie (and her lies are extremely well documented), her attachment to secrecy (the private server being just one single example of this) and her utterly abysmal failure as secretary of state in the ME and Russia while in the Obama administration.
It is sad that I actually thought one good thing would come from the Obama administration with his FP (I am diametrically opposed to his underlying domestic policy philosophy) as I thought the days of constant, unending warfare across the globe were going to go in the correct direction. Instead we have done nothing but expand our efforts to blow things up in foreign lands and destabilize governments and have mishandled Russia in epic proportions. That alone makes here utterly unqualified to be president.
But who is qualified and who is not is entirely a matter of opinion and that's why we have elections, hey?
No, it is not 'entirely' a matter of opinion. There can be differing opinions but it is also a matter of facts and history. I think that the history speaks for itself. The only reason that I think Hillary is going to attain the office is because Trump is just so damn bad himself and that really is pathetic.
One of the problems with modern politics is that facts are utterly ignored and replaced with empty opinion.