How come Lincoln got away with shutting down hundreds of newspapers and jailed journalists

[rightwinger]

Nice try

A States right to allow slavery

Nice try.

A State's right to voluntarily leave the Union and be independent.

Leave the union to protect slavery

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

 

[rightwinger]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Lincoln fought to preserve our country

The South was more concerned about their slaves than their country

 

[Syriusly]

If the south had their way, they would still own slaves

Na, the civil war was more about states rights than Slavery.
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Yeah- the State's Rights to keep slavery legal.

Tell us all about how the Confederacy respected the Habeas corpus of slaves?

 

[Syriusly]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

 

[Syriusly]

Nice try

A States right to allow slavery

Nice try.

A State's right to voluntarily leave the Union and be independent.

And to be independently able to ensure its citizens could continue to own human property.

 

[rightwinger]

The Confederacy formed a nation where 40 percent of their population was owned as property by the rest

 

[bripat9643]

The Civil War was not about Lincoln. The Civil War was not caused by Lincoln. Lincoln did not start the Civil War. People at the time knew that a declaration of secession meant war. The South wished to commit this act because it did not care to confront a legal attempt to change the nature of America. In historical instances similar to this, rebellion, the very most severe punishments ensued. The South should have known it could not succeed, but reason did not prevail and war was forced to resolve the matter.
The matter was resolved.

Not true. Many thought secession legal. Several secession attempts were made before Lincoln’s War, but were averted.

Plus the South sent a delegation to meet with Dishonest Abe to discuss payment for federal property in the South and to pay their share of the nation debt. Why would they do this if they knew secession meant war Old Abe told them to fuck off and die.

Before Dishonest Abe demanded war, many newspapers in the North said let the South go peacefully. Why would they do this if secession was illegal? This all changed when he started theathening and imprisoning reporters.

Many in the slave holding rebels states thought that secession would lead to war- and welcomed that. Sure there were people who wanted to believe that secession was legal.

And speaking of 'dishonesty' when did Lincoln 'demand' war?

Before or after Rebels fired on the American Army?

It doesn't matter what they thought. The bottom line is that Lincoln invaded Virginia. Lincoln started the war, not the South.

 

[bripat9643]

The Confederacy formed a nation where 40 percent of their population was owned as property by the rest

So did our Founding Fathers, you fucking moron.

 

[bripat9643]

Who decided "saving the union" takes precedence over following the Constitution? The answer is that a gang of servile Stalinist todies decided that. All you Lincoln cult members are like abusive husbands who believe you're justified in beating your wives because they made you mad.

The Constitution aimed to make “a more perfect union”. That union was being broken

Lincoln saved us

The preamble has no legal force, moron.

It states the purpose of our Constitution

How many times do you have to be told that has no legal force?

Who decided "saving the union" takes precedence over following the Constitution? The answer is that a gang of servile Stalinist todies decided that. All you Lincoln cult members are like abusive husbands who believe you're justified in beating your wives because they made you mad.

The Constitution aimed to make “a more perfect union”. That union was being broken

Lincoln saved us

The preamble has no legal force, moron.

It states the purpose of our Constitution

How many times do you have to be told that has no legal force?

The preamble states the nation has changed from a union of states to a union of people.

No it doesn't.

 

[bripat9643]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Lincoln fought to preserve our country

The South was more concerned about their slaves than their country

That's exactly like the abusive husband who beat his wife to preserve their marriage. Why would any sane person want to presere such a marriage?

 

[bripat9643]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

 

[Syriusly]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

 

[Syriusly]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Lincoln fought to preserve our country

The South was more concerned about their slaves than their country

That's exactly like the abusive husband who beat his wife to preserve their marriage. Why would any sane person want to presere such a marriage?

LOL_ because trying to secede to protect your ownership of slaves is so much like marriage.

 

[Syriusly]

The Confederacy formed a nation where 40 percent of their population was owned as property by the rest

So did our Founding Fathers, you fucking moron.

Except our Founding Fathers didn't try- and fail- to form a nation- specifically to protect the ownership of slaves- you fucking moron.

 

[Syriusly]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

I don't see how the Confederates were trying to protect the Union when they fired on the U.S. Army.

 

[Syriusly]

The Civil War was not about Lincoln. The Civil War was not caused by Lincoln. Lincoln did not start the Civil War. People at the time knew that a declaration of secession meant war. The South wished to commit this act because it did not care to confront a legal attempt to change the nature of America. In historical instances similar to this, rebellion, the very most severe punishments ensued. The South should have known it could not succeed, but reason did not prevail and war was forced to resolve the matter.
The matter was resolved.

Not true. Many thought secession legal. Several secession attempts were made before Lincoln’s War, but were averted.

Plus the South sent a delegation to meet with Dishonest Abe to discuss payment for federal property in the South and to pay their share of the nation debt. Why would they do this if they knew secession meant war Old Abe told them to fuck off and die.

Before Dishonest Abe demanded war, many newspapers in the North said let the South go peacefully. Why would they do this if secession was illegal? This all changed when he started theathening and imprisoning reporters.

Many in the slave holding rebels states thought that secession would lead to war- and welcomed that. Sure there were people who wanted to believe that secession was legal.

And speaking of 'dishonesty' when did Lincoln 'demand' war?

Before or after Rebels fired on the American Army?

It doesn't matter what they thought. The bottom line is that Lincoln invaded Virginia. Lincoln started the war, not the South.

The bottom line is that the Confederates started the war, when they fired on the United States Army.

Not Lincoln.

 

[bripat9643]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Lincoln fought to preserve our country

The South was more concerned about their slaves than their country

That's exactly like the abusive husband who beat his wife to preserve their marriage. Why would any sane person want to presere such a marriage?

LOL_ because trying to secede to protect your ownership of slaves is so much like marriage.

I'll bet you wonder what it's like to have a brain.

 

[bripat9643]

The Civil War was not about Lincoln. The Civil War was not caused by Lincoln. Lincoln did not start the Civil War. People at the time knew that a declaration of secession meant war. The South wished to commit this act because it did not care to confront a legal attempt to change the nature of America. In historical instances similar to this, rebellion, the very most severe punishments ensued. The South should have known it could not succeed, but reason did not prevail and war was forced to resolve the matter.
The matter was resolved.

Not true. Many thought secession legal. Several secession attempts were made before Lincoln’s War, but were averted.

Plus the South sent a delegation to meet with Dishonest Abe to discuss payment for federal property in the South and to pay their share of the nation debt. Why would they do this if they knew secession meant war Old Abe told them to fuck off and die.

Before Dishonest Abe demanded war, many newspapers in the North said let the South go peacefully. Why would they do this if secession was illegal? This all changed when he started theathening and imprisoning reporters.

Many in the slave holding rebels states thought that secession would lead to war- and welcomed that. Sure there were people who wanted to believe that secession was legal.

And speaking of 'dishonesty' when did Lincoln 'demand' war?

Before or after Rebels fired on the American Army?

It doesn't matter what they thought. The bottom line is that Lincoln invaded Virginia. Lincoln started the war, not the South.

The bottom line is that the Confederates started the war, when they fired on the United States Army.

Not Lincoln.

Linconln started the war, moron. The fact is indisputable. Firing on tresspassers is not an act of war. It's not even illegal.

 

[bripat9643]

Leave the union to protect slavery

Started a war to protect the Union.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

Explain to us how the Union was legally entitled to station troops on the territory of another sovereign nation?

The United States was entitled to station the United States Army in a fort built by the United States on soil of the United States to protect the United States.

Tell us again how Lincoln forced South Carolina to fire cannons on the American Army?

It was the soil of South Carolina, you fucking imbecile. If the U.S. government purchases a piece of land in Mexico, that doesn't then become "the soil of the United States." It's truly sad that morons like you have to be taught the difference between property and territory. Ft Sumter was U.S. property, but it was South Carolina territory, which had every right to determine whether foreign troops were allowed to occupy it or not.