How Big Will the Impeachment Blowback Be?

[Billy_Bob]

My idea is Trump should have one of his people calculate how much time the House Democrats have wasted trying to get him out of office, and put that as a percentage of their time spent since taking leadership. To me it's clear it's the only thing they've been doing since being the majority.

And if they do impeach Trump, that's the first thing that should come out of his mouth, and continue to talk about it until election day. I think people will be shocked at how much they didn't accomplish because of that. It may turn a lot of voters away from the Democrat party.

Trump's a damn good communicator. Expect this to be a topic at the SOTU. These guys will rue the day they didn't simply accept the election results and walk away.

If attaching strings to foreign aid is impeachable, cancel it all.

As Professor Dershowitz said, he looked at all the statutes for quid pro quo's, and there isn't any law against a President using them, even if that's what Trump did do, which he didn't.

As Nikki Haley said in an interview yesterday, Trump gave Ukraine the money, and Ukraine did no investigations on anybody. Therefore, there never was any quid pro quo to begin with.

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

 

[dudmuck]

Trump's a damn good communicator. Expect this to be a topic at the SOTU. These guys will rue the day they didn't simply accept the election results and walk away.

If attaching strings to foreign aid is impeachable, cancel it all.

As Professor Dershowitz said, he looked at all the statutes for quid pro quo's, and there isn't any law against a President using them, even if that's what Trump did do, which he didn't.

As Nikki Haley said in an interview yesterday, Trump gave Ukraine the money, and Ukraine did no investigations on anybody. Therefore, there never was any quid pro quo to begin with.

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

You need to smear a purple heart recipient because you cant defend Trump?

Vindman worked for 20 years in national security.
Treason involves aiding and enemy, and Ukraine is not an enemy.

 

[Thinker101]

As Professor Dershowitz said, he looked at all the statutes for quid pro quo's, and there isn't any law against a President using them, even if that's what Trump did do, which he didn't.

As Nikki Haley said in an interview yesterday, Trump gave Ukraine the money, and Ukraine did no investigations on anybody. Therefore, there never was any quid pro quo to begin with.

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

You need to smear a purple heart recipient because you cant defend Trump?

Vindman worked for 20 years in national security.
Treason involves aiding and enemy, and Ukraine is not an enemy.

Wow, really!! And McCabe was with the FBI for 23 years, Peter Strzok 22 years, length of service means nothing to these idiots.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

My idea is Trump should have one of his people calculate how much time the House Democrats have wasted trying to get him out of office, and put that as a percentage of their time spent since taking leadership. To me it's clear it's the only thing they've been doing since being the majority.

And if they do impeach Trump, that's the first thing that should come out of his mouth, and continue to talk about it until election day. I think people will be shocked at how much they didn't accomplish because of that. It may turn a lot of voters away from the Democrat party.

Trump's a damn good communicator. Expect this to be a topic at the SOTU. These guys will rue the day they didn't simply accept the election results and walk away.

If attaching strings to foreign aid is impeachable, cancel it all.

As Professor Dershowitz said, he looked at all the statutes for quid pro quo's, and there isn't any law against a President using them, even if that's what Trump did do, which he didn't.

As Nikki Haley said in an interview yesterday, Trump gave Ukraine the money, and Ukraine did no investigations on anybody. Therefore, there never was any quid pro quo to begin with.

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

And this is why Schiff Face is cautious about Republicans calling in witnesses or questioning theirs.

This fake impeachment is about second or third hand information, and what people "interpreted" Trump said.

I always knew this would happen. The Democrats are now using Thought Police from their favorite book to attack a political opponent, and even conduct an impeachment.

 

[Wyatt earp]

As Professor Dershowitz said, he looked at all the statutes for quid pro quo's, and there isn't any law against a President using them, even if that's what Trump did do, which he didn't.

As Nikki Haley said in an interview yesterday, Trump gave Ukraine the money, and Ukraine did no investigations on anybody. Therefore, there never was any quid pro quo to begin with.

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

You need to smear a purple heart recipient because you cant defend Trump?

Vindman worked for 20 years in national security.
Treason involves aiding and enemy, and Ukraine is not an enemy.

Well good thing Obama defended it then.

 

[Billy_Bob]

As Professor Dershowitz said, he looked at all the statutes for quid pro quo's, and there isn't any law against a President using them, even if that's what Trump did do, which he didn't.

As Nikki Haley said in an interview yesterday, Trump gave Ukraine the money, and Ukraine did no investigations on anybody. Therefore, there never was any quid pro quo to begin with.

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

You need to smear a purple heart recipient because you cant defend Trump?

Vindman worked for 20 years in national security.
Treason involves aiding and enemy, and Ukraine is not an enemy.

Vindman is of Ukraine decent and was a naturalized US citizen. He has family connections in the Ukraine and opposed Trumps policies vocally.

There are very troubling problems with this no fact witness, as in fabricating what he thinks was said..

 

[Wyatt earp]

There will be no conviction by the senate because there is no way to get to the needed 67 votes. In fact the D house with its lack of due process the impeachment might be reasonable cause for the dismissal all by itself. The Durham Grand jury may start handing out indictments before the House launches its conviction and could lead to indictments of sitting D representatives as co-conspirators with Comey MCabe et al might take the intelligent move of rolling over on the Obama administration. How bad could this get for the house Ds?

My idea is Trump should have one of his people calculate how much time the House Democrats have wasted trying to get him out of office, and put that as a percentage of their time spent since taking leadership. To me it's clear it's the only thing they've been doing since being the majority.

And if they do impeach Trump, that's the first thing that should come out of his mouth, and continue to talk about it until election day. I think people will be shocked at how much they didn't accomplish because of that. It may turn a lot of voters away from the Democrat party.

Over 400 bills are sitting on Moscow Mitch's desk from the House today and it just keeps piling up. The House is doing the work. Moscow Mitch isn't allow most of the bills onto the Senate Floor. Including those designed to clean up the elections that may be dirty as hell with corruption. That means NO PART of congress is really getting the job done because of Moscow Mitch and Rump's refusal to view those bills. In the end, it's all in the lap of Rump and his Lapdog Moscow Mitch. In order to change that both of these need to be gone. And you Rumpsters need to be sent packing along with those two.

And harry Reid didn't do the same?

 

[dudmuck]

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

You need to smear a purple heart recipient because you cant defend Trump?

Vindman worked for 20 years in national security.
Treason involves aiding and enemy, and Ukraine is not an enemy.

Wow, really!! And McCabe was with the FBI for 23 years, Peter Strzok 22 years, length of service means nothing to these idiots.

 

[Billy_Bob]

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

You need to smear a purple heart recipient because you cant defend Trump?

Vindman worked for 20 years in national security.
Treason involves aiding and enemy, and Ukraine is not an enemy.

Wow, really!! And McCabe was with the FBI for 23 years, Peter Strzok 22 years, length of service means nothing to these idiots.

LOL... Big deal... Joe Biden didn't either...

 

[Wyatt earp]

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

That's the question that always stumps the witch hunters.

Ratcliffe challenges fat pudgy Vindman to find in the President’s transcript of the call where the President ‘demanded’ anything from the Ukrainian President –

Vindman could not name anywhere in the transcript where the President demanded anything and that it was all what Vindman perceived and not based on the law or others interpretations of the meeting. Vindman had concerns about the President’s policy (who is he?)

Congressman Ratcliffe next destroyed the witness Vindman pointing out how Vindman told Ukrainian officials (not detailed in the discussion) to ignore President Trump – a blatant foul committed by the underling –

After Rep. Swallowswell jumped in to assist Vindman, Ratcliffe nailed him, calling Swallowswell ‘President’, in reference to his failed Presidential run –

Then the attorney for Vindman and the rest of the Democrats freaked out in defense of the underling who told Ukrainians to ignore President Trump –

What a mess the Democrats have gotten themselves into. The Deep State has to operate in the shadows to be effective. In their blind delusion they are resisting Trump with everything they have trying to overturn the election, and in doing so are completely exposing themselves.

Vindman admitted to committing treason. Democrats applauded this act. This should be referred to a court marshal hearing under the UCMJ.

You need to smear a purple heart recipient because you cant defend Trump?

Vindman worked for 20 years in national security.
Treason involves aiding and enemy, and Ukraine is not an enemy.

Wow, really!! And McCabe was with the FBI for 23 years, Peter Strzok 22 years, length of service means nothing to these idiots.

MSNBC new talking point eh..

 

[Care4all]

I think in the very least, an impeachment will bring out the masses to vote, like has never been seen on election day before, of BOTH Trumpers and Democrats....!!!

 

[Billy_Bob]

I think in the very least, an impeachment will bring out the masses to vote, like has never been seen on election day before, of BOTH Trumpers and Democrats....!!!

Democrats crossing over to Trump is going to devastate you...

I'm looking forward to control of all legislative authority...

 

[Care4all]

I think in the very least, an impeachment will bring out the masses to vote, like has never been seen on election day before, of BOTH Trumpers and Democrats....!!!

Democrats crossing over to Trump is going to devastate you...

I'm looking forward to control of all legislative authority...

I don't think they will cross the aisle... they believe their Country, their Nation's democracy and institutions and national security are at stake, with Trump in office... this is the most important vote, in their lifetime...everyone feels that way... on both sides I suppose....

thus the huge turnout is my prediction...

 

[justoffal]

The blowback will be zero. Even if the dems are proven completely wrong in all of this, the next distraction will come up and this will be mostly forgotten.

People seem to not have realized, political heads are untouchable. This is why you will never see clinton, trump, pelosi, or any of them in jail, no matter what, even if their crimes are obvious...people like that are above conviction..

Disagree ...

This was a foolish venture by the left that borders on insanity...normally I would agree with you about the zero effect....but not this time. We will see very pronounced voting Trends next November.

Jo

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

If you go into almost any prison and ask almost any inmate, they will ask the same thing about themselves. " I was Framed" is a big one. And "I am Innocent" is another. We ain't buying it anymore. The Dog and Pony Circus Act needs to come to an end.

I doubt if any inmate had the backing of a well known leftist law professor. And I'd bet you never watched the video either based on your response.

Rump got bagged and THEN released the money. This right up there with stealing money from Veterans for his own personal use which he was bagged for late last week. And then there is the trying to get China to do the same thing against Biden. We are having trouble keeping up with the Rump crime spree.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

If you go into almost any prison and ask almost any inmate, they will ask the same thing about themselves. " I was Framed" is a big one. And "I am Innocent" is another. We ain't buying it anymore. The Dog and Pony Circus Act needs to come to an end.

I doubt if any inmate had the backing of a well known leftist law professor. And I'd bet you never watched the video either based on your response.

I can pay a video company to say anything I want them to say in a video these days. Doesn't make it the truth. And I can't demand everyone watch it either. Of course, the ones that are cultist followers along those lines will watch it a least 10 times and take it as Gods Own Truth even though I made it all up.

Here is a video you might find not to your liking. And I agree 100% with Dershowitz.



Trying to use Dershowitz to further your claims is just another Carnie Dog and Poly Act.

And you are going to really hate this video.


had enough?

Why would I not like them? The first video basically supported Trump. The second video was an hour long, and I don't have time for that. But I did watch the first 20 minutes of it. It was fine.

He neither supports nor publicly condemns Rump in both vids. There is more to his second vid than you admit to where the Judicial Branch is in such a hurry to try and exonerate rump that they skipped a very important step that may have made things go a lot smoother. For instance, Congressional oversight comes first and if they find enough THEN special counsel comes next if at all. Rump and his band of criminals really messed the whole thing up from the get go. I suggest you listen to the second vid all the way through or will it just make your head explode when a real live Constitutional Lawyer ways in instead of that quack Rudy.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It is an impeachment - If they vote to impeach.
There is no definition for cause of impeachment beyond "high crimes and misdemeanors"
Since this is a political function and not a legal one - it can be any cause.
The Dems should simply say - Trump is not good for the country.
The House could impeach for that.
The Senate would never convict - But it would more honestly reflect the Democrats position, and the blowback would probably be less.

Dems are misusing impeachment as an election year stunt. In less than a year voters will determine whether Trump should continue in office. Dems should be using their majority to further the interests of the United States rather than trying to overturn the 2016 election.

IT’S A PAGEANT. IT’S JUST LIKE THE OSCARS: NBC Panel: Dems Must ‘Dramatize’ Impeachment With Crying Witnesses.

With these folks it's all fakery and drama, all the way down.

Or they can replace Rump with someone that doesn't use his office and various charities for his own personal needs. Rump never stopped campaigning. During the first 100 days of any Presidents job the President gets a lot done on his agenda and then settles in and works with congress. Rump kept right on campaigning, wasted most of his first 100 days and has NEVER tried to work well with Congress. Most of what you keep giving him credit for would have happened even if he had gone golfing and fishing for the first 2 years.

So you agree that things are going well under Trump.

Not lately. And certainly not like you describe. Those rose colored glasses are rosy indeed. the only reason things aren't going worse is that others are riding herd over Rump and not allowing it to go as far south as it could. His cabinet are constantly disobeying his goofy directions. And yes, it does make some of the outsiders nervous when they learn of it.

 

[Billiejeens]

It is an impeachment - If they vote to impeach.
There is no definition for cause of impeachment beyond "high crimes and misdemeanors"
Since this is a political function and not a legal one - it can be any cause.
The Dems should simply say - Trump is not good for the country.
The House could impeach for that.
The Senate would never convict - But it would more honestly reflect the Democrats position, and the blowback would probably be less.

Dems are misusing impeachment as an election year stunt. In less than a year voters will determine whether Trump should continue in office. Dems should be using their majority to further the interests of the United States rather than trying to overturn the 2016 election.

IT’S A PAGEANT. IT’S JUST LIKE THE OSCARS: NBC Panel: Dems Must ‘Dramatize’ Impeachment With Crying Witnesses.

With these folks it's all fakery and drama, all the way down.

Or they can replace Rump with someone that doesn't use his office and various charities for his own personal needs. Rump never stopped campaigning. During the first 100 days of any Presidents job the President gets a lot done on his agenda and then settles in and works with congress. Rump kept right on campaigning, wasted most of his first 100 days and has NEVER tried to work well with Congress. Most of what you keep giving him credit for would have happened even if he had gone golfing and fishing for the first 2 years.

I laugh

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

If you go into almost any prison and ask almost any inmate, they will ask the same thing about themselves. " I was Framed" is a big one. And "I am Innocent" is another. We ain't buying it anymore. The Dog and Pony Circus Act needs to come to an end.

I doubt if any inmate had the backing of a well known leftist law professor. And I'd bet you never watched the video either based on your response.

So what crime did Trump commit? I suggest you watch the Dershowitz video I posted earlier.

If you go into almost any prison and ask almost any inmate, they will ask the same thing about themselves. " I was Framed" is a big one. And "I am Innocent" is another. We ain't buying it anymore. The Dog and Pony Circus Act needs to come to an end.

I doubt if any inmate had the backing of a well known leftist law professor. And I'd bet you never watched the video either based on your response.

I can pay a video company to say anything I want them to say in a video these days. Doesn't make it the truth. And I can't demand everyone watch it either. Of course, the ones that are cultist followers along those lines will watch it a least 10 times and take it as Gods Own Truth even though I made it all up.

Here is a video you might find not to your liking. And I agree 100% with Dershowitz.



Trying to use Dershowitz to further your claims is just another Carnie Dog and Poly Act.

And you are going to really hate this video.


had enough?

Why would I not like them? The first video basically supported Trump. The second video was an hour long, and I don't have time for that. But I did watch the first 20 minutes of it. It was fine.

He neither supports nor publicly condemns Rump in both vids. There is more to his second vid than you admit to where the Judicial Branch is in such a hurry to try and exonerate rump that they skipped a very important step that may have made things go a lot smoother. For instance, Congressional oversight comes first and if they find enough THEN special counsel comes next if at all. Rump and his band of criminals really messed the whole thing up from the get go. I suggest you listen to the second vid all the way through or will it just make your head explode when a real live Constitutional Lawyer ways in instead of that quack Rudy.

If I had to watch an hour video every time somebody posted one, I'd be here all day with six posts. Sorry, I don't have the time. The video I posted was short and sweet: There are no impeachable offenses according to Dershowitz. That's it plain and simple. Furthermore, Democrats are inventing crimes. A President exercising his executive privilege is not obstruction. Quid pro quo's are not against any law, and have been used by presidents throughout the years. There is no law against collusion. A President has no restrictions on who he fires when it comes to positions like the FBI director. There is no bribery. Trump never once made US aid contingent on Zelensky doing any investigation. In fact, no investigation ever took place. Zelensky openly said he felt no pressure to do anything by Trump.

So Dershowitz is correct. These are all phony charges in which they are attempting to impeach Trump on. And if they proceed anyway, expect the same with the next Democrat President and a Republican led Congress. Democrats are going to regret it, just like they are now because they switched the rules of the game for Supreme Court nominees. The problem is Democrats are dumb. They never learn from their mistakes, because they think they never make any.

Impeachment is a process used against a President for High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I think in the very least, an impeachment will bring out the masses to vote, like has never been seen on election day before, of BOTH Trumpers and Democrats....!!!

I guess. Nothing gets a Democrat voter more excited than to see their Nazi's abuse power to get their way.

 

[DBA]

It is an impeachment - If they vote to impeach.
There is no definition for cause of impeachment beyond "high crimes and misdemeanors"
Since this is a political function and not a legal one - it can be any cause.
The Dems should simply say - Trump is not good for the country.
The House could impeach for that.
The Senate would never convict - But it would more honestly reflect the Democrats position, and the blowback would probably be less.

Dems are misusing impeachment as an election year stunt. In less than a year voters will determine whether Trump should continue in office. Dems should be using their majority to further the interests of the United States rather than trying to overturn the 2016 election.

IT’S A PAGEANT. IT’S JUST LIKE THE OSCARS: NBC Panel: Dems Must ‘Dramatize’ Impeachment With Crying Witnesses.

With these folks it's all fakery and drama, all the way down.

Or they can replace Rump with someone that doesn't use his office and various charities for his own personal needs. Rump never stopped campaigning. During the first 100 days of any Presidents job the President gets a lot done on his agenda and then settles in and works with congress. Rump kept right on campaigning, wasted most of his first 100 days and has NEVER tried to work well with Congress. Most of what you keep giving him credit for would have happened even if he had gone golfing and fishing for the first 2 years.

So you agree that things are going well under Trump.

Not lately. And certainly not like you describe. Those rose colored glasses are rosy indeed. the only reason things aren't going worse is that others are riding herd over Rump and not allowing it to go as far south as it could. His cabinet are constantly disobeying his goofy directions. And yes, it does make some of the outsiders nervous when they learn of it.

To the contrary, things are getting better. Even if you believe that it is Trump's cabinet that is saving him, just imagine how bad it would be with one of the leftards in charge. Warren would absolutely destroy the US economy if she could get help from the Senate and or the House. I refuse to believe that the average taxpayer and wage earner could be so stupid as to NOT vote for Trump in 2020. If you are in the bottom 50% that doesn't pay or have anything to lose, the "free" stuff is much more appealing, though even when I was fresh out of college making very little, I would have NEVER voted for a politician who said they were going to take from the rich to give to me. It was immoral then and is immoral now that I am one of those supposed "rich".