How About a Congressional Commission on the George Floyd Riots?

[busybee01]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

If BLM really cared about black lives they would address black on black crime and high murder rates as well as the high single parenthood % in the black community. An investigation is warranted for sure.

there isn’t a whole lotta money or political capital in addressing Black on Black Crime and high Murder rates among Blacks. There is no way a BLM leader could accumulate $3M plus and purchasing those mansions without something you can really shake down corporations with such as the statistically rare instance of a white police officer shooting an unarmed Black.

So what you're saying is that these very well educated, smart and motivated Black Lives Matter leaders, who have created the largest racial rights movement in world history, that is literally changing the legal landscape around the world, aren't capable of making enough money to be able to afford these "luxuries" on their own merits.

There must be something dishonest about black people creating things of value for themselves, is what you're saying. How very racist of you to think this way.

No, that is not what I am saying. That is what you are saying so you can throw the racist card at me. Go back an read what I said. I said that there are larger issues to be addressed but clearly those issues don’t pay as high. That’s an analysis, not a racist statement.

It is a racist statement. BLM'S mission is to address law enforcements abuses. The issues you talk aboit are racist stereotypes bought up to avoid the issue.

Law enforcement abuses would not happen if people didn't break the law

That does not matter. Even poeople who are arrested have rights granted by the US Constitution.

 

[busybee01]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

No, they're a$$hole$, alright, and they're inconsistent, and they minimize January 6th disingenuously, but they're right about the phukking Floyd riots...

Those weren't protests for the most part, those were riots, triggered by the Neanderthals and wastes-of-good-oxygen living in those $hithole$...

I'm not minimizing the 1/6 riot. It was a violent riot, and those that committed crimes should be prosecuted for their crimes.

This thread is about the YEARS of riots from the other side, and how maybe we should look into the violent criminals behind THOSE riots.


Those two ideas are not in conflict.

So long as (1) we pay good attention to the inciters and enablers of the January 6th riots and (2) those get first and best attention, then we are in complete agreement

Why should 4 hours of rioting get more attention that 4 years of rioting?

Because those who believe that January 6 2021 was a traitorous act aimed at unseating the government of the United States want the heads of the traitors.

The desires of partisans do not trump the right of the accused 1/6 rioters to equal justice.


Targeting them for political reasons, makes them political prisoners, if convicted.

They're not being targeted for political reasons. They're being targeted because they attacked Congress, and tried to prevent Congress from certifying the election of President Biden.

I think there should be a commission to look at last summer's protests - as an entirely separate commission having nothing to do with the January 6th insurrection.

But I really don't think you're going to like the results of that commission, Correll. That commission is going to look at how police departments over-reacted to leftist demonstrations, made unprovoked attacks on demonstrators, and then arrested them for "resisting" the beatings. That's why so many of the charges against leftist protestors were dismissed. The DA's took one look at the video's, the victim statements, and decided that the police were the aggressors and released the protestors.

This happens every single time there is an investigation of "violent leftist protests". Police instigate the violence against the protestors, and then beat the protestors. Think the Edmund Pettis Bridge, Correll. Think Selma, think Birmingham. Think the 1960's riots in Detroit, Los Angeles, and across the USA.

Police have been ruthlessly attacking leftists since the 1930's food riots.

FUnny a week ago, you lefties were all about saying the "reaons" was "insurrection" but I would point out that hte insurrections of Chaz and the Autonomous Zone and the attacks on teh federal buildings, were not getting that same treatment.


Now you have crafted a different, more unique set of standards to pretend that that one small riot was somehow special.


It is, of course, complete bullshit.

CHAZ only took over a few city blocks for a few weeks. It wasnt a takeover of government.
The US capitol was an insurrection because it forced the suspension of government operations in the capitol.

A few weeks is longer than a 4 hours. That you don't know that, is you being a liberal.

The intent of the attack on the capitol was much worse. They launched a attack and breached the capitol. The last time that happened was when the British breached their capitol in the war of 1812. Their goal was to stop a function of government specified by the Constitution. They also threatened to hang the VP of the US and kill the Speaker of the House.

 

[busybee01]

Democrats have become a party of hypocrisy. You can find a new example almost daily.

Michigan governor apologizes for apparent social distancing violation

The photo, which showed Whitmer seated with about a dozen people at no fewer than three tables that had been pushed together, was posted on social media by one of the attendees, but later deleted, according to the Detroit Free Press https://bit.ly/2RFRDyw. Michigan restaurants and bars remain...

www.yahoo.com

Republicans are the party of hypocrisy.

I am rubber you’re glue? Grow up.

You are a idiot. You can't grow up.

 

[Correll]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

No, they're a$$hole$, alright, and they're inconsistent, and they minimize January 6th disingenuously, but they're right about the phukking Floyd riots...

Those weren't protests for the most part, those were riots, triggered by the Neanderthals and wastes-of-good-oxygen living in those $hithole$...

I'm not minimizing the 1/6 riot. It was a violent riot, and those that committed crimes should be prosecuted for their crimes.

This thread is about the YEARS of riots from the other side, and how maybe we should look into the violent criminals behind THOSE riots.


Those two ideas are not in conflict.

So long as (1) we pay good attention to the inciters and enablers of the January 6th riots and (2) those get first and best attention, then we are in complete agreement

Why should 4 hours of rioting get more attention that 4 years of rioting?

Because those who believe that January 6 2021 was a traitorous act aimed at unseating the government of the United States want the heads of the traitors.

The desires of partisans do not trump the right of the accused 1/6 rioters to equal justice.


Targeting them for political reasons, makes them political prisoners, if convicted.

They're not being targeted for political reasons. They're being targeted because they attacked Congress, and tried to prevent Congress from certifying the election of President Biden.

I think there should be a commission to look at last summer's protests - as an entirely separate commission having nothing to do with the January 6th insurrection.

But I really don't think you're going to like the results of that commission, Correll. That commission is going to look at how police departments over-reacted to leftist demonstrations, made unprovoked attacks on demonstrators, and then arrested them for "resisting" the beatings. That's why so many of the charges against leftist protestors were dismissed. The DA's took one look at the video's, the victim statements, and decided that the police were the aggressors and released the protestors.

This happens every single time there is an investigation of "violent leftist protests". Police instigate the violence against the protestors, and then beat the protestors. Think the Edmund Pettis Bridge, Correll. Think Selma, think Birmingham. Think the 1960's riots in Detroit, Los Angeles, and across the USA.

Police have been ruthlessly attacking leftists since the 1930's food riots.

FUnny a week ago, you lefties were all about saying the "reaons" was "insurrection" but I would point out that hte insurrections of Chaz and the Autonomous Zone and the attacks on teh federal buildings, were not getting that same treatment.


Now you have crafted a different, more unique set of standards to pretend that that one small riot was somehow special.


It is, of course, complete bullshit.

CHAZ only took over a few city blocks for a few weeks. It wasnt a takeover of government.
The US capitol was an insurrection because it forced the suspension of government operations in the capitol.

A few weeks is longer than a 4 hours. That you don't know that, is you being a liberal.

The intent of the attack on the capitol was much worse. They launched a attack and breached the capitol. The last time that happened was when the British breached their capitol in the war of 1812. Their goal was to stop a function of government specified by the Constitution. They also threatened to hang the VP of the US and kill the Speaker of the House.

Bullshit. The intent was to have an accurate count.

 

[Dragonlady]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

If BLM really cared about black lives they would address black on black crime and high murder rates as well as the high single parenthood % in the black community. An investigation is warranted for sure.

there isn’t a whole lotta money or political capital in addressing Black on Black Crime and high Murder rates among Blacks. There is no way a BLM leader could accumulate $3M plus and purchasing those mansions without something you can really shake down corporations with such as the statistically rare instance of a white police officer shooting an unarmed Black.

So what you're saying is that these very well educated, smart and motivated Black Lives Matter leaders, who have created the largest racial rights movement in world history, that is literally changing the legal landscape around the world, aren't capable of making enough money to be able to afford these "luxuries" on their own merits.

There must be something dishonest about black people creating things of value for themselves, is what you're saying. How very racist of you to think this way.

No, that is not what I am saying. That is what you are saying so you can throw the racist card at me. Go back an read what I said. I said that there are larger issues to be addressed but clearly those issues don’t pay as high. That’s an analysis, not a racist statement.

It is a racist statement. BLM'S mission is to address law enforcements abuses. The issues you talk aboit are racist stereotypes bought up to avoid the issue.

Law enforcement abuses would not happen if people didn't break the law

Really??? So the police get to be judge, jury and executioner, if someone breaks the law and shop lifts a candy bar, like Michael Brown? Selling cigarettes is a capital offence, like Eric Garner.

What about the poor bugger whose car broke down and he flagged down the cops to help him and they shot him. He wasn't breaking any laws.

Or the caretaker of the autistic man who was lying on the ground with his hands in the air, begging cops not to shoot? Neither of those people broke any laws.

 

[Dragonlady]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

No, they're a$$hole$, alright, and they're inconsistent, and they minimize January 6th disingenuously, but they're right about the phukking Floyd riots...

Those weren't protests for the most part, those were riots, triggered by the Neanderthals and wastes-of-good-oxygen living in those $hithole$...

I'm not minimizing the 1/6 riot. It was a violent riot, and those that committed crimes should be prosecuted for their crimes.

This thread is about the YEARS of riots from the other side, and how maybe we should look into the violent criminals behind THOSE riots.


Those two ideas are not in conflict.

So long as (1) we pay good attention to the inciters and enablers of the January 6th riots and (2) those get first and best attention, then we are in complete agreement

Why should 4 hours of rioting get more attention that 4 years of rioting?

Because those who believe that January 6 2021 was a traitorous act aimed at unseating the government of the United States want the heads of the traitors.

The desires of partisans do not trump the right of the accused 1/6 rioters to equal justice.


Targeting them for political reasons, makes them political prisoners, if convicted.

They're not being targeted for political reasons. They're being targeted because they attacked Congress, and tried to prevent Congress from certifying the election of President Biden.

I think there should be a commission to look at last summer's protests - as an entirely separate commission having nothing to do with the January 6th insurrection.

But I really don't think you're going to like the results of that commission, Correll. That commission is going to look at how police departments over-reacted to leftist demonstrations, made unprovoked attacks on demonstrators, and then arrested them for "resisting" the beatings. That's why so many of the charges against leftist protestors were dismissed. The DA's took one look at the video's, the victim statements, and decided that the police were the aggressors and released the protestors.

This happens every single time there is an investigation of "violent leftist protests". Police instigate the violence against the protestors, and then beat the protestors. Think the Edmund Pettis Bridge, Correll. Think Selma, think Birmingham. Think the 1960's riots in Detroit, Los Angeles, and across the USA.

Police have been ruthlessly attacking leftists since the 1930's food riots.

FUnny a week ago, you lefties were all about saying the "reaons" was "insurrection" but I would point out that hte insurrections of Chaz and the Autonomous Zone and the attacks on teh federal buildings, were not getting that same treatment.


Now you have crafted a different, more unique set of standards to pretend that that one small riot was somehow special.


It is, of course, complete bullshit.

CHAZ only took over a few city blocks for a few weeks. It wasnt a takeover of government.
The US capitol was an insurrection because it forced the suspension of government operations in the capitol.

A few weeks is longer than a 4 hours. That you don't know that, is you being a liberal.

The intent of the attack on the capitol was much worse. They launched a attack and breached the capitol. The last time that happened was when the British breached their capitol in the war of 1812. Their goal was to stop a function of government specified by the Constitution. They also threatened to hang the VP of the US and kill the Speaker of the House.

Bullshit. The intent was to have an accurate count.

The intent was to STOP the count and the certification.

We saw Trump's speech on television fool. You can't unhear his words of instruction to the mob. Or his order that they "fight like hell", said over and over again.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

If BLM really cared about black lives they would address black on black crime and high murder rates as well as the high single parenthood % in the black community. An investigation is warranted for sure.

there isn’t a whole lotta money or political capital in addressing Black on Black Crime and high Murder rates among Blacks. There is no way a BLM leader could accumulate $3M plus and purchasing those mansions without something you can really shake down corporations with such as the statistically rare instance of a white police officer shooting an unarmed Black.

So what you're saying is that these very well educated, smart and motivated Black Lives Matter leaders, who have created the largest racial rights movement in world history, that is literally changing the legal landscape around the world, aren't capable of making enough money to be able to afford these "luxuries" on their own merits.

There must be something dishonest about black people creating things of value for themselves, is what you're saying. How very racist of you to think this way.

No, that is not what I am saying. That is what you are saying so you can throw the racist card at me. Go back an read what I said. I said that there are larger issues to be addressed but clearly those issues don’t pay as high. That’s an analysis, not a racist statement.

It is a racist statement. BLM'S mission is to address law enforcements abuses. The issues you talk aboit are racist stereotypes bought up to avoid the issue.

Law enforcement abuses would not happen if people didn't break the law

That does not matter. Even poeople who are arrested have rights granted by the US Constitution.

Police have rights too.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats have become a party of hypocrisy. You can find a new example almost daily.

Michigan governor apologizes for apparent social distancing violation

The photo, which showed Whitmer seated with about a dozen people at no fewer than three tables that had been pushed together, was posted on social media by one of the attendees, but later deleted, according to the Detroit Free Press https://bit.ly/2RFRDyw. Michigan restaurants and bars remain...

www.yahoo.com

Republicans are the party of hypocrisy.

I am rubber you’re glue? Grow up.

You are a idiot. You can't grow up.

You seem upset? Need a safe space? So easily triggered.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

If BLM really cared about black lives they would address black on black crime and high murder rates as well as the high single parenthood % in the black community. An investigation is warranted for sure.

there isn’t a whole lotta money or political capital in addressing Black on Black Crime and high Murder rates among Blacks. There is no way a BLM leader could accumulate $3M plus and purchasing those mansions without something you can really shake down corporations with such as the statistically rare instance of a white police officer shooting an unarmed Black.

So what you're saying is that these very well educated, smart and motivated Black Lives Matter leaders, who have created the largest racial rights movement in world history, that is literally changing the legal landscape around the world, aren't capable of making enough money to be able to afford these "luxuries" on their own merits.

There must be something dishonest about black people creating things of value for themselves, is what you're saying. How very racist of you to think this way.

No, that is not what I am saying. That is what you are saying so you can throw the racist card at me. Go back an read what I said. I said that there are larger issues to be addressed but clearly those issues don’t pay as high. That’s an analysis, not a racist statement.

It is a racist statement. BLM'S mission is to address law enforcements abuses. The issues you talk aboit are racist stereotypes bought up to avoid the issue.

Law enforcement abuses would not happen if people didn't break the law

Really??? So the police get to be judge, jury and executioner, if someone breaks the law and shop lifts a candy bar, like Michael Brown? Selling cigarettes is a capital offence, like Eric Garner.

What about the poor bugger whose car broke down and he flagged down the cops to help him and they shot him. He wasn't breaking any laws.

Or the caretaker of the autistic man who was lying on the ground with his hands in the air, begging cops not to shoot? Neither of those people broke any laws.

We entrust them to do the best they can. Want better officers? Pay more and hire better people. Your examples are what? A dozen out of millions of encounters. You really are a parasite on this world.

 

[IM2]

White Man W/Gun Resists Arrest, Isn't Shot Or Tased...​

Cop Refuses To Shoot White Man Resisting Arrest​

White guy with weapon resist arrest, cop don`t use gun.​

Resisting Arrest “with a gun on your hip” never looked so safe What happened​

White resisting arrest beat 2 officers and stole the sheriffs car​

WHITE SUPREMACIST HIGH ON FLAKKKA RESISTING ARREST DOESN'T GET KILLED​

WHITE SUPREMACIST HIGH ON FLAKKKA RESISTING ARREST DOESN'T GET KILLED

Cops tase and mace a SAVAGE white supremacist high on synthetic marijuana aka spice aka k2. (A drug of choice for bums).

youtu.be

Hutchinson Officer Assaulted During Traffic Stop - April 14, 2021​

BYSTANDER VIDEO: Hutchinson Officer Assaulted During Traffic Stop - April 14, 2021

An officer attempting to make a traffic stop in Hutchinson, Minn., was dragged by the suspect driver and struck in the head with a hammer during the altercat...

youtu.be

An officer attempting to make a traffic stop in Hutchinson, Minn., was dragged by the suspect driver and struck in the head with a hammer during the altercation, police said. The injured officer, who has not been identified, was hospitalized with injuries, but was in stable condition as of late Wednesday, April 14. The suspect, 61-year-old Luke Alvin Oeltjenbruns, of Hutchinson, was arrested at the scene after the assault, Hutchinson police said. Oeltjenbruns was being held in the McLeod County Jail on one charge of 1st-degree assault, though more charges may be added.

I can keep going. None of these guys were killed.

 

[IM2]

Then we have this:

*Graphic* Man with AR-15 kills two people, walks past police

A man, who was part of vigilante militia group walked down a street in Kenosha, Wisconsin shooting three people and killing two on Aug. 25. #protests2020 #Ja...

youtu.be

This thug killed 2 people, was armed, and got to walk past police and go home.

Don't talk that shit about resisting arrest.

 

[Kondor3]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

No, they're a$$hole$, alright, and they're inconsistent, and they minimize January 6th disingenuously, but they're right about the phukking Floyd riots...

Those weren't protests for the most part, those were riots, triggered by the Neanderthals and wastes-of-good-oxygen living in those $hithole$...

I'm not minimizing the 1/6 riot. It was a violent riot, and those that committed crimes should be prosecuted for their crimes.

This thread is about the YEARS of riots from the other side, and how maybe we should look into the violent criminals behind THOSE riots.


Those two ideas are not in conflict.

So long as (1) we pay good attention to the inciters and enablers of the January 6th riots and (2) those get first and best attention, then we are in complete agreement

Why should 4 hours of rioting get more attention that 4 years of rioting?

Because those who believe that January 6 2021 was a traitorous act aimed at unseating the government of the United States want the heads of the traitors.

The desires of partisans do not trump the right of the accused 1/6 rioters to equal justice.


Targeting them for political reasons, makes them political prisoners, if convicted.

Nope. And, fortunately, you're not in-power at the moment, so you don't have any "say" in how aggressively they're prosecuted for their traitorous behaviors.

 

[Kondor3]

White Man W/Gun Resists Arrest, Isn't Shot Or Tased...​

Cop Refuses To Shoot White Man Resisting Arrest​

White guy with weapon resist arrest, cop don`t use gun.​

Resisting Arrest “with a gun on your hip” never looked so safe What happened​

White resisting arrest beat 2 officers and stole the sheriffs car​

WHITE SUPREMACIST HIGH ON FLAKKKA RESISTING ARREST DOESN'T GET KILLED​

WHITE SUPREMACIST HIGH ON FLAKKKA RESISTING ARREST DOESN'T GET KILLED

Cops tase and mace a SAVAGE white supremacist high on synthetic marijuana aka spice aka k2. (A drug of choice for bums).

youtu.be

Hutchinson Officer Assaulted During Traffic Stop - April 14, 2021​

BYSTANDER VIDEO: Hutchinson Officer Assaulted During Traffic Stop - April 14, 2021

An officer attempting to make a traffic stop in Hutchinson, Minn., was dragged by the suspect driver and struck in the head with a hammer during the altercat...

youtu.be

An officer attempting to make a traffic stop in Hutchinson, Minn., was dragged by the suspect driver and struck in the head with a hammer during the altercation, police said. The injured officer, who has not been identified, was hospitalized with injuries, but was in stable condition as of late Wednesday, April 14. The suspect, 61-year-old Luke Alvin Oeltjenbruns, of Hutchinson, was arrested at the scene after the assault, Hutchinson police said. Oeltjenbruns was being held in the McLeod County Jail on one charge of 1st-degree assault, though more charges may be added.

I can keep going. None of these guys were killed.

No point in wasting a perfectly good White Boy...

 

[Kondor3]

"there isn’t a whole lotta money or political capital in addressing Black on Black Crime and high Murder rates among Blacks. There is no way a BLM leader could accumulate $3M plus and purchasing those mansions without something you can really shake down corporations with such as the statistically rare instance of a white police officer shooting an unarmed Black."

The person purchasing that ONE HOUSE is a author of 7 books. I think that might have something to do with her income. Perhaps you address the high white on white crime problem such as your fellow white jews getting beat down by other whites.

As mentioned in the threads, there is more than enough law enforcement and intelligence researching the events of 1/6 T the US Capitol. Conversely, there is not enough law enforcement looking into the terror that has and continues to plague our cities in the form of burning, looting, murder, and violence as justified forms of protest from the psychotic Left.

Back to the US Capitol 1/6 proposed commission and hearings, the Democrats want to prolong and enhance 1/6 for as long as possible so they can use it as a tool in the ‘22 Midterm Elections. Namely, the investigation and commission is just another political theatre for Democrats.

Congress should investigate what happened on Jan 6. Congress may need to make administrative changes or pass new laws to prevent a reoccurence of this attack.

there is nothing to investigate. Rioters got into the Capitol and threatened the lives of not only the Congressional representatives but the staff that supports them. Congress can vote itself heightened security and approve policy to support it in an instant. It’s that simple.

Not until you find out exactly what happened. You have a House Sergeant of Arms and a Senate Sergeant of Arms. Then the Capitol are controlled by another group. One question is whether the whole thing needs to be streamlined. There are many other questions that need to be asked just as it was in the aftermath of 9/11.

This can all be answered and new policies developed in a congressional hearing. No need for a commission and hours of testimony.... this is all designed for Democrats to perpetuate the event and simply make the Republicans look bad. That’s all. To quote one of their own, “at this point, what difference does it make?”

Yes there is. The Republicans are making themselves look bad. They don't need any help. They are writing Democrat attack ads. It does make a difference to ensure this never happens again.

Get rid of Mail In Voting and dynamic voting deadlines and not kick out observers and that will insure this never happens again. And even if it does, Congress has already built itself an enhanced security infrastructure and policy to go with it. It won’t happen again.

And the vigorous prosecution of the traitors of January 6th and their metaphorical crucifixion in the criminal and civil law courts will ensure that...

 

[Correll]

Really??? So the police get to be judge, jury and executioner, if someone breaks the law and shop lifts a candy bar, like Michael Brown? Selling cigarettes is a capital offence, like Eric Garner.

Not what he said at all. But you knew that when you posted. It is called LYING.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The Democrats can have their idiotic investigation. Nothing will come from it.

Oh I look for more laws to be imposed upon us peasants as a result. This fishing trip is designed to justify their next blatant overreach. Patriot Act 2.0

 

[Correll]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

No, they're a$$hole$, alright, and they're inconsistent, and they minimize January 6th disingenuously, but they're right about the phukking Floyd riots...

Those weren't protests for the most part, those were riots, triggered by the Neanderthals and wastes-of-good-oxygen living in those $hithole$...

I'm not minimizing the 1/6 riot. It was a violent riot, and those that committed crimes should be prosecuted for their crimes.

This thread is about the YEARS of riots from the other side, and how maybe we should look into the violent criminals behind THOSE riots.


Those two ideas are not in conflict.

So long as (1) we pay good attention to the inciters and enablers of the January 6th riots and (2) those get first and best attention, then we are in complete agreement

Why should 4 hours of rioting get more attention that 4 years of rioting?

Because those who believe that January 6 2021 was a traitorous act aimed at unseating the government of the United States want the heads of the traitors.

The desires of partisans do not trump the right of the accused 1/6 rioters to equal justice.


Targeting them for political reasons, makes them political prisoners, if convicted.

Nope. And, fortunately, you're not in-power at the moment, so you don't have any "say" in how aggressively they're prosecuted for their traitorous behaviors.

Yes. The right to equal justice is a human right. That it is being violated is a injustice.


Your excuse for these human right violations is "treason", as it often by tyrants and mobs.


That you have an excuse, does not change the fact that it is still an injustice.


I want equal treatment for rioters of all stripes.

 

[Dragonlady]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

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When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

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What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

If BLM really cared about black lives they would address black on black crime and high murder rates as well as the high single parenthood % in the black community. An investigation is warranted for sure.

there isn’t a whole lotta money or political capital in addressing Black on Black Crime and high Murder rates among Blacks. There is no way a BLM leader could accumulate $3M plus and purchasing those mansions without something you can really shake down corporations with such as the statistically rare instance of a white police officer shooting an unarmed Black.

So what you're saying is that these very well educated, smart and motivated Black Lives Matter leaders, who have created the largest racial rights movement in world history, that is literally changing the legal landscape around the world, aren't capable of making enough money to be able to afford these "luxuries" on their own merits.

There must be something dishonest about black people creating things of value for themselves, is what you're saying. How very racist of you to think this way.

No, that is not what I am saying. That is what you are saying so you can throw the racist card at me. Go back an read what I said. I said that there are larger issues to be addressed but clearly those issues don’t pay as high. That’s an analysis, not a racist statement.

It is a racist statement. BLM'S mission is to address law enforcements abuses. The issues you talk aboit are racist stereotypes bought up to avoid the issue.

Law enforcement abuses would not happen if people didn't break the law

Really??? So the police get to be judge, jury and executioner, if someone breaks the law and shop lifts a candy bar, like Michael Brown? Selling cigarettes is a capital offence, like Eric Garner.

What about the poor bugger whose car broke down and he flagged down the cops to help him and they shot him. He wasn't breaking any laws.

Or the caretaker of the autistic man who was lying on the ground with his hands in the air, begging cops not to shoot? Neither of those people broke any laws.

We entrust them to do the best they can. Want better officers? Pay more and hire better people. Your examples are what? A dozen out of millions of encounters. You really are a parasite on this world.

Bullshit. Your supposed to be a business consultant. Let's talk about the dollars and cents of it all.

You have a large, well equipped, militarized, mostly white and ex-military, police force, which, when it arrives on the scene, treats your fellow citizens as armed combatants on the field of battle. Any threatening movement and they start shooting and don't stop until the threat is "neutralized".

And yet they manage to arrest armed and dangerous white mass shooters, especially those whose victims are not white or Christian, without incident. The Parkland shooter, Dylan Roof. They helped Kyle Rittenhouse up, and clapped him on the back and sent him on his way after he shot 3 people, killing two of them. They didn't even take away his gun.

American police are the best paid municipal civil servants there are. Many officers make more than $100,000 per year, with overtime. Teachers should be so well paid. And they have "qualified immunity" so that no matter what they do, they can't be sued. They're seldom fired, arrested, or in any called to account for the violence they inflict on people either.

Municipal taxpayers have been paying out more than $300 million per year in settlement of "excessive force" claims by civilians every year. And that's just in cities with a population over 100,000 people.

Joe Arpaio wasn't voted out of office and arrested because the people of Maricopa County don't want immigration laws enforced. The County paid out over $25 million in settlements to his victims in settlements for wrongful death, denial of Constitutions rights claims, malicious prosecution, and dereliction of duty claims. Arpaio was causing their taxes to go up, and he was allowing criminals to prey on illegals with impunity.

Derrick Chauvin's murder of George Floyd was the 18th complaint of "excessive force" in Officer Chauvin's jacket. George Floyd was the second suspect Chauvin has killed in the line of duty. Just the Floyd murder cost the taxpayers $20 million. Insurance companies will not cover these amounts. They're coming out of YOUR pockets.

The rest of the first world doesn't have an ultra violent police force that kills 1500 people per year. We're not jailing more people than ANYBODY else in the world - even the authoritarian dictatorships. The only countries where more people die at the hands of the police are the Phillipines and Brazil, where the police simply shoot people on the streets and leave them there as a warning to others.

When you look at all of the numbers - the killings, the incarcerations, and unequal treatment of young blacks, and young white people at the hands of the police, it's really fucking hard not to see an authoritarian police state.

When Ronald Reagan was elected, there were 40,000 black and brown prisoners in federal prisons. In 2010, there were 400,000 per prisoner black and brown prisoners in federal prisons, even though the crime rate has been steadily dropping since 1990. Each prisoner costs taxpayers of $115,000 per year. Of course, when all of these black and brown men get out of federal prison, they've lost their right to vote, so there is that.

 

[Dragonlady]

The Democrats can have their idiotic investigation. Nothing will come from it.

Oh I look for more laws to be imposed upon us peasants as a result. This fishing trip is designed to justify their next blatant overreach. Patriot Act 2.0

They're already imposing a LOT of new voting laws on you peasants as a result of the election which wasn't stolen, but you're all for that.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats want a stacked, rigged "congressional commission" to "investigate" a 4-hour riot that is already being investigated by the FBI and the DC DA. But, they don't want to investigate the far more destructive and widespread George Floyd riots, which were, in many cases, coordinated by BLM and Antifa activists, and which caused over a dozen deaths, hundreds of injuries, the occupation of parts of two major cities, assaults on hundreds of police officers, the burning down of a police station, massive looting, and billions of dollars of damage.

And, of course, we now know that the George Floyd riots were unjustified, because we now know that Derek Chauvin did not put his knee on Floyd's neck, that Chauvin did not cause Floyd's death, that Floyd had ingested over three times the lethal dosage of fentanyl shortly before his police encounter, that Floyd was having trouble breathing before Chauvin laid a finger on him, that Floyd had severe heart problems, that the officers had no way of knowing any of this, and that Floyd had numerous chances to avoid being pinned on the ground but failed to take any of them.

Democrats are so busy kissing Minority a$$ for votes that it blinds them to the fact that George Floyd was a criminal scumbag who stupidly resisted arrest.

Letting Black Lives Matter and the loosely-organized AntiFa scum off the hook without serious prosecutions is also a mistake that the next GOP administration should correct.

But when it comes to a commission to investigate the incitement and execution of the January 6, 2021 Insurrection against the lawful authority of the United States...

Such a commission SHOULD be launched and maximized and that Commission should aggressively pursue such treasonous scum and their leaders and inciters without mercy.

Those (high and low) found responsible should be criminally charged, convicted of a major and violent felony, and given the maximum sentences for imprisonment and fines.

For the worst of the rank-and-file offenders in that Insurrectionist mob, it's a damned shame that the police did not volley-fire into that crowd with automatic weapons.

That goes for their Orange Baboon-God too... Cadet Bone Spurs didn't join them as promised or lead from the front... the cowardly POS went into hiding and watched, safely.

Teflon Don talks-the-talk, but he doesn't walk-the-walk... and his Make America White Great Again suckers and minions blind themselves to such important shortcomings.

The fact is that even people who are arrested have rights. One of those is a right to life. Floyd was no threat to the officers yet Chauvin refused to get off his neck. The police also infrlamed the protestors by dressing up in para-military uniforms as if they were enemies of this country.

So, the violence of the rioters is not their fault, it is the fault of the COP'S UNIFORMS?

lol!!!

View attachment 492908

When you treat people like they are the enemy, that sends a message. In cases where there was not violence, officers interacted with the protestors. The police completely mishandled the protests and in many cases they were the attackers.

....

What kind of message does it send, when half the country sees the other half engage in 4 years of violent, political riots, and then when they see some of their own, go over the line and have a FOUR HOUR riot, ,


and the four years are ignored and glossed over, while the four hours are treated as the worst thing to ever happen in this country?

Hint: It rhymes with Declaration of War.

What kind of message does it send when one side engages in unconstitutional violations of the civil rights of anyone who isn’t white or Christian?

What kind of message does it send when police are allowed to indiscriminately murder civilians with no consequences?

Right wing assholes such as yourself always call protest from the left “riots” and “dangerous”. It’s like only one side has a constitutional right to seek redress with you clowns.

Last but not least, every time the left protests, hardline right wingers come out and violently counter protest. The protest last summer weren’t violent. But the counter protesters and the troublemakers and those who want to discredit Black Lives Matter, came out and burned and looted and caused violence.

It’s hardly surprising that Trump cult assholes such as yourself, are still lying about the protests.

If BLM really cared about black lives they would address black on black crime and high murder rates as well as the high single parenthood % in the black community. An investigation is warranted for sure.

there isn’t a whole lotta money or political capital in addressing Black on Black Crime and high Murder rates among Blacks. There is no way a BLM leader could accumulate $3M plus and purchasing those mansions without something you can really shake down corporations with such as the statistically rare instance of a white police officer shooting an unarmed Black.

So what you're saying is that these very well educated, smart and motivated Black Lives Matter leaders, who have created the largest racial rights movement in world history, that is literally changing the legal landscape around the world, aren't capable of making enough money to be able to afford these "luxuries" on their own merits.

There must be something dishonest about black people creating things of value for themselves, is what you're saying. How very racist of you to think this way.

No, that is not what I am saying. That is what you are saying so you can throw the racist card at me. Go back an read what I said. I said that there are larger issues to be addressed but clearly those issues don’t pay as high. That’s an analysis, not a racist statement.

It is a racist statement. BLM'S mission is to address law enforcements abuses. The issues you talk aboit are racist stereotypes bought up to avoid the issue.

Law enforcement abuses would not happen if people didn't break the law

Really??? So the police get to be judge, jury and executioner, if someone breaks the law and shop lifts a candy bar, like Michael Brown? Selling cigarettes is a capital offence, like Eric Garner.

What about the poor bugger whose car broke down and he flagged down the cops to help him and they shot him. He wasn't breaking any laws.

Or the caretaker of the autistic man who was lying on the ground with his hands in the air, begging cops not to shoot? Neither of those people broke any laws.

We entrust them to do the best they can. Want better officers? Pay more and hire better people. Your examples are what? A dozen out of millions of encounters. You really are a parasite on this world.

Bullshit. Your supposed to be a business consultant. Let's talk about the dollars and cents of it all.

You have a large, well equipped, militarized, mostly white and ex-military, police force, which, when it arrives on the scene, treats your fellow citizens as armed combatants on the field of battle. Any threatening movement and they start shooting and don't stop until the threat is "neutralized".

And yet they manage to arrest armed and dangerous white mass shooters, especially those whose victims are not white or Christian, without incident. The Parkland shooter, Dylan Roof. They helped Kyle Rittenhouse up, and clapped him on the back and sent him on his way after he shot 3 people, killing two of them. They didn't even take away his gun.

American police are the best paid municipal civil servants there are. Many officers make more than $100,000 per year, with overtime. Teachers should be so well paid. And they have "qualified immunity" so that no matter what they do, they can't be sued. They're seldom fired, arrested, or in any called to account for the violence they inflict on people either.

Municipal taxpayers have been paying out more than $300 million per year in settlement of "excessive force" claims by civilians every year. And that's just in cities with a population over 100,000 people.

Joe Arpaio wasn't voted out of office and arrested because the people of Maricopa County don't want immigration laws enforced. The County paid out over $25 million in settlements to his victims in settlements for wrongful death, denial of Constitutions rights claims, malicious prosecution, and dereliction of duty claims. Arpaio was causing their taxes to go up, and he was allowing criminals to prey on illegals with impunity.

Derrick Chauvin's murder of George Floyd was the 18th complaint of "excessive force" in Officer Chauvin's jacket. George Floyd was the second suspect Chauvin has killed in the line of duty. Just the Floyd murder cost the taxpayers $20 million. Insurance companies will not cover these amounts. They're coming out of YOUR pockets.

The rest of the first world doesn't have an ultra violent police force that kills 1500 people per year. We're not jailing more people than ANYBODY else in the world - even the authoritarian dictatorships. The only countries where more people die at the hands of the police are the Phillipines and Brazil, where the police simply shoot people on the streets and leave them there as a warning to others.

When you look at all of the numbers - the killings, the incarcerations, and unequal treatment of young blacks, and young white people at the hands of the police, it's really fucking hard not to see an authoritarian police state.

When Ronald Reagan was elected, there were 40,000 black and brown prisoners in federal prisons. In 2010, there were 400,000 per prisoner black and brown prisoners in federal prisons, even though the crime rate has been steadily dropping since 1990. Each prisoner costs taxpayers of $115,000 per year. Of course, when all of these black and brown men get out of federal prison, they've lost their right to vote, so there is that.

I disagree with your first premise...that they start shooting. There are over 10mil encounters annually..how often do they even draw their guns? 1,500 out of 10,000,000 is 0.015%

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Derek Chauvin was a bad cop protected by his union. The Mayor of MN is a Democrat, why didn't he do anything about it?

If you want fewer prisoners then you want more not fewer police officers. Rudy's stop and frisk worked and crime was way down. We don't put people in prison unless they commit crimes.

In terms of lawsuits....I'd need to take a deeper dive.


Why does it concern you? You're not a US taxpayer? And you're a hypocrite. Illegal immigration costs the US a lot more than $25MM.