How A 1999 "Russian" Bombing Led To Putin's Rise To Power

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when putler will take be arrested for this terrible crime ?



"David Satter is a US journalist who spent decades covering Russian politics before he was expelled from the country after claiming that President Putin and the FSB may have been involved with the deadly Russia apartment bombings in 1999. We talked to Satter about the bombings at PutinCon, a summit organized by the Human Rights Foundation that gathered together some of Putin's biggest critics. Following is a transcript of the video. David Satter: You had to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to see what was going on. And in particular, you had to be willfully ignorant if you didn't see the implications of the Ryazan incident. David Satter is a US journalist and expert on Russian politics. He was expelled from Russia after claiming that Putin and the FSB were behind the apartment bombings Satter: In the summer of 1999 the approval rating of former President Yeltsin was 2%. There appeared to be no chance whatever that Putin, who was designated by Yeltsin as his successor could possibly become the next Russian president. The apartment bombings changed everything. It was said after those buildings went up that now we're living in a completely different country. More than 200 people were killed in the September bombings. Russia blamed Chechen militants, triggering the second Chechen War. Satter: Putin came forward as the savior of the country. He was put in charge of a war in Chechnya. The bombings were blamed on Chechens without any evidence whatsoever, and as a result of the successful prosecution of that war, against all odds he was elected the next Russian president. The apartment bombings appear to be the keystone of a plot to confuse Russian public opinion, to create terror, to distract the Russian public, to redirect their anger away from the corruption that had flourished under Yeltsin, and toward the Chechens who had had for a number of years a semi-independent government in Chechnya and in that way create the conditions for the Russian people to vote in what they absolutely consciously did not want, which was a successor to Yeltsin who would protect Yeltsin. There was an enormous amount of material in the Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta which pointed to the possibility and in fact to the likelihood that the authorities themselves blew up those buildings. At the same time a fifth bomb was discovered in the basement of an apartment building in Ryazan, which is a city southeast of Moscow. And I went to Ryazan after the bomb was discovered and diffused to talk to local residents and it was clear from those conversations that what took place was a genuine attempt to blow up a fifth building. The authorities said that this was only a training exercise, but it was nothing of the kind. And what was most important was that three persons were arrested for putting a bomb in a building in Ryazan. They turned out to be not Chechens, not terrorists in the usual sense, but rather agents of the Federal Securities Service which is the FSB. I asked for documents from the CIA from the FBI, from the directorate of national intelligence from the state department. I got very, very little that was of any use. But I did get a few documents from the state department which indicated that their sources of information were telling them that the apartment bombings were extremely suspicious. You had to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to see what was going on. And in particular you had to be willfully ignorant if you didn't see the implications of the Ryazan incident in which three FSB agents were arrested for putting a fifth bomb in a building, even though the bomb didn't go off it was a live bomb. What was it doing in the basement of an apartment building?"
 
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David Satter, Kevin Klose, Carl Gershman, Robert Amsterdam, and Charles Davidson discuss Satter's book on Putin and the FSB's role in the 1999 apartment bombings.
 

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Our resident Russians don't like to talk about the Moscow apartment bombings.
 

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And there's that TV show, that was a key moment. Years later, Putler got to control just about all TV channels.
 
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And there's that TV show, that was a key moment. Years later, Putler got to control just about all TV channels.
and killing many many journalists on the way

 

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Whatever Putin is accused of is chump change compared to a U.S. president who was literally caught with his pants down in the Oval Office and decided to bomb a defenseless country in Europe the same year. Is it possible that the CIA was behind the "Ryazin incident" to deflect Russia's attention from Yugoslavia? Stranger things have happened.
 

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Whatever Putin is accused of is chump change compared to a U.S. president who was literally caught with his pants down in the Oval Office and decided to bomb a defenseless country in Europe the same year. Is it possible that the CIA was behind the "Ryazin incident" to deflect Russia's attention from Yugoslavia? Stranger things have happened.
No, it was Putin.
 

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Whatever Putin is accused of is chump change compared to a U.S. president who was literally caught with his pants down in the Oval Office and decided to bomb a defenseless country in Europe the same year. Is it possible that the CIA was behind the "Ryazin incident" to deflect Russia's attention from Yugoslavia? Stranger things have happened.
No, it was Putin.[/QUOTE
I'm not defending Putin but when a political entity that calls itself "the human rights foundation" (part of the U.N.?) arranges a summit by "Putin's biggest critics" what do you think they would come up with? It wouldn't be hard to arrange a summit of Bill Clinton's biggest critics who might suggest that the OKC bombing came at a convenient time during the administration. When you factor in the CIA's world class failure of 9-11 it's possible that they were busy working in partnership with Putin to keep Russia from defending Yugoslavia while Bill Clinton authorized the killing of an estimated 25,000 Europeans to force the surrender of one man. .
 

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Whatever Putin is accused of is chump change compared to a U.S. president who was literally caught with his pants down in the Oval Office and decided to bomb a defenseless country in Europe the same year. Is it possible that the CIA was behind the "Ryazin incident" to deflect Russia's attention from Yugoslavia? Stranger things have happened.
No, it was Putin.
I'm not defending Putin but when a political entity that calls itself "the human rights foundation" (part of the U.N.?) arranges a summit by "Putin's biggest critics" what do you think they would come up with? It wouldn't be hard to arrange a summit of Bill Clinton's biggest critics who might suggest that the OKC bombing came at a convenient time during the administration. When you factor in the CIA's world class failure of 9-11 it's possible that they were busy working in partnership with Putin to keep Russia from defending Yugoslavia while Bill Clinton authorized the killing of an estimated 25,000 Europeans to force the surrender of one man. .

when a political entity that calls itself "the human rights foundation" (part of the U.N.?) arranges a summit by "Putin's biggest critics" what do you think they would come up with?

Come up with? Poor Putin got framed, just because you don't like that organization?

When you factor in the CIA's world class failure of 9-11 it's possible that they were busy working in partnership with Putin to keep Russia from defending Yugoslavia

The CIA failed, so they bombed Moscow 2 years earlier?

You're not making any sense.
 
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And there's that TV show, that was a key moment. Years later, Putler got to control just about all TV channels.
+1,
a simple question to all putlerists, why ozero has never showed on TV.ru propaganda urinals the "Chechens who did it " ?
 

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Can anybody here answer the question of who would in Putni's place that would have been any better? Some other criminal syndicate? Maybe a dumber, even more idiotic and violent thug?
 

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A simple bombing is chump change. Any dumb assed terrorist with an ammo box full of C-4 could have brought down a building in Russia to harvest copper pipes. The real problem comes when the radical left has their slimy hands on the world's economy. You could say that the collapse of the U.S. economy in 08 under a democrat congressional majority led to Obama's rise in power. The new chairperson of the House Banking Committee which had oversight responsibility for Fannie Mae, democrat congressman Barney Frank, told America (and the world) that Fannie was solvent and stable just before it collapsed under his watch, bringing down most of the world's economy. Nobody in the left leaning media ever asked Frank what the hell he was doing and two months later leftie former community activist Barry Hussein Sororo Obama was elected with scarcely a background check.
 
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Can anybody here answer the question of who would in Putni's place that would have been any better? Some other criminal syndicate? Maybe a dumber, even more idiotic and violent thug?
the same story, as long as juchi empire exists , you know bad geography. look like they just are on the buying time , once oil prices are less than 40$ ulus juchi (golden horde) will be done

 

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A simple bombing is chump change. Any dumb assed terrorist with an ammo box full of C-4 could have brought down a building in Russia to harvest copper pipes. The real problem comes when the radical left has their slimy hands on the world's economy. You could say that the collapse of the U.S. economy in 08 under a democrat congressional majority led to Obama's rise in power. The new chairperson of the House Banking Committee which had oversight responsibility for Fannie Mae, democrat congressman Barney Frank, told America (and the world) that Fannie was solvent and stable just before it collapsed under his watch, bringing down most of the world's economy. Nobody in the left leaning media ever asked Frank what the hell he was doing and two months later leftie former community activist Barry Hussein Sororo Obama was elected with scarcely a background check.
No matter how it gets spun nobody forced Wall Street to massively over-leverage their grossly over-appraised assets, forced CountryWide to falsify loan apps, forced Standard and Poor to give AAAAA ratings to junk bonds, and all the rest of the long lists of criminal activity and stupid corporate hijinks. .
 
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Can anybody here answer the question of who would in Putni's place that would have been any better? Some other criminal syndicate? Maybe a dumber, even more idiotic and violent thug?
ps
George Friedman (who has worked actually for "russia") put it very right, from 6.40
 

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A simple bombing is chump change. Any dumb assed terrorist with an ammo box full of C-4 could have brought down a building in Russia to harvest copper pipes. The real problem comes when the radical left has their slimy hands on the world's economy. You could say that the collapse of the U.S. economy in 08 under a democrat congressional majority led to Obama's rise in power. The new chairperson of the House Banking Committee which had oversight responsibility for Fannie Mae, democrat congressman Barney Frank, told America (and the world) that Fannie was solvent and stable just before it collapsed under his watch, bringing down most of the world's economy. Nobody in the left leaning media ever asked Frank what the hell he was doing and two months later leftie former community activist Barry Hussein Sororo Obama was elected with scarcely a background check.
No matter how it gets spun nobody forced Wall Street to massively over-leverage their grossly over-appraised assets, forced CountryWide to falsify loan apps, forced Standard and Poor to give AAAAA ratings to junk bonds, and all the rest of the long lists of criminal activity and stupid corporate hijinks. .
Actually the Clinton administration forced banks to make bad loans under threat of civil rights litigation. The plan was to bundle the bad loans with good loans and sell them back to brokers as good loans. At any rate Fannie Mae was Barney Frank's responsibility. He either lied to America or he was the biggest a-hole in history when he let Fannie go under or forced it into bankruptcy just in time for the biggest October surprise in history. The amazing thing is the news media never asked the chairperson of the Banking Committee what the hell he was doing. They just blamed it on the banks.
 

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A simple bombing is chump change. Any dumb assed terrorist with an ammo box full of C-4 could have brought down a building in Russia to harvest copper pipes. The real problem comes when the radical left has their slimy hands on the world's economy. You could say that the collapse of the U.S. economy in 08 under a democrat congressional majority led to Obama's rise in power. The new chairperson of the House Banking Committee which had oversight responsibility for Fannie Mae, democrat congressman Barney Frank, told America (and the world) that Fannie was solvent and stable just before it collapsed under his watch, bringing down most of the world's economy. Nobody in the left leaning media ever asked Frank what the hell he was doing and two months later leftie former community activist Barry Hussein Sororo Obama was elected with scarcely a background check.
No matter how it gets spun nobody forced Wall Street to massively over-leverage their grossly over-appraised assets, forced CountryWide to falsify loan apps, forced Standard and Poor to give AAAAA ratings to junk bonds, and all the rest of the long lists of criminal activity and stupid corporate hijinks. .
Actually the Clinton administration forced banks to make bad loans under threat of civil rights litigation. The plan was to bundle the bad loans with good loans and sell them back to brokers as good loans. At any rate Fannie Mae was Barney Frank's responsibility. He either lied to America or he was the biggest a-hole in history when he let Fannie go under or forced it into bankruptcy just in time for the biggest October surprise in history. The amazing thing is the news media never asked the chairperson of the Banking Committee what the hell he was doing. They just blamed it on the banks.
Rubbish. Goldman Sachs invented the tactic of bundling crap loans with good ones in order to get higher ratings and higher prices for the crap stuff, then selling the bundle off to European customers. Soon there was no way to trace them quickly, and they froze the markets up. Like I said, no one forced them or anybody else to do that. One of the first companies to fail was Thornburg, without a single bad loan in its entire portfolio; they were over-leveraged and when market liquidity dried up overnight as a result of European defaults they had no money to make margin calls on their now devalued equities. Didn't have shit to do with their 'bad mortgages', it was the mark to market rule kicking in; their own default rate was minuscule, less than0.2 %. Goldman was the first to bail, causing the entire market to drop; there wern't many big players and the were all trading with each other. Quit reading Town Hall and the other liars.
 

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A simple bombing is chump change. Any dumb assed terrorist with an ammo box full of C-4 could have brought down a building in Russia to harvest copper pipes. The real problem comes when the radical left has their slimy hands on the world's economy. You could say that the collapse of the U.S. economy in 08 under a democrat congressional majority led to Obama's rise in power. The new chairperson of the House Banking Committee which had oversight responsibility for Fannie Mae, democrat congressman Barney Frank, told America (and the world) that Fannie was solvent and stable just before it collapsed under his watch, bringing down most of the world's economy. Nobody in the left leaning media ever asked Frank what the hell he was doing and two months later leftie former community activist Barry Hussein Sororo Obama was elected with scarcely a background check.
No matter how it gets spun nobody forced Wall Street to massively over-leverage their grossly over-appraised assets, forced CountryWide to falsify loan apps, forced Standard and Poor to give AAAAA ratings to junk bonds, and all the rest of the long lists of criminal activity and stupid corporate hijinks. .
Actually the Clinton administration forced banks to make bad loans under threat of civil rights litigation. The plan was to bundle the bad loans with good loans and sell them back to brokers as good loans. At any rate Fannie Mae was Barney Frank's responsibility. He either lied to America or he was the biggest a-hole in history when he let Fannie go under or forced it into bankruptcy just in time for the biggest October surprise in history. The amazing thing is the news media never asked the chairperson of the Banking Committee what the hell he was doing. They just blamed it on the banks.
Rubbish. Goldman Sachs invented the tactic of bundling crap loans with good ones in order to get higher ratings and higher prices for the crap stuff, then selling the bundle off to European customers. Soon there was no way to trace them quickly, and they froze the markets up. Like I said, no one forced them or anybody else to do that. One of the first companies to fail was Thornburg, without a single bad loan in its entire portfolio; they were over-leveraged and when market liquidity dried up overnight as a result of European defaults they had no money to make margin calls on their now devalued equities. Didn't have shit to do with their 'bad mortgages', it was the mark to market rule kicking in; their own default rate was minuscule, less than0.2 %. Goldman was the first to bail, causing the entire market to drop; there wern't many big players and the were all trading with each other. Quit reading Town Hall and the other liars.
Goldman Sach was the biggest contributor to the Clinton campaign. They couldn't have gotten away with it if they didn't have the administration (and the media) in their back pockets. The Clinton agenda was to offer the American dream of owning a home to everyone regardless of their ability to pay and the administration played the race card with civil rights litigation directed at banks if they refused to comply. The scam worked for years until Barney Frank decided to tank Fannie Mae just in time for the election.
 
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A simple bombing is chump change. Any dumb assed terrorist with an ammo box full of C-4 could have brought down a building in Russia to harvest copper pipes. The real problem comes when the radical left has their slimy hands on the world's economy. You could say that the collapse of the U.S. economy in 08 under a democrat congressional majority led to Obama's rise in power. The new chairperson of the House Banking Committee which had oversight responsibility for Fannie Mae, democrat congressman Barney Frank, told America (and the world) that Fannie was solvent and stable just before it collapsed under his watch, bringing down most of the world's economy. Nobody in the left leaning media ever asked Frank what the hell he was doing and two months later leftie former community activist Barry Hussein Sororo Obama was elected with scarcely a background check.
No matter how it gets spun nobody forced Wall Street to massively over-leverage their grossly over-appraised assets, forced CountryWide to falsify loan apps, forced Standard and Poor to give AAAAA ratings to junk bonds, and all the rest of the long lists of criminal activity and stupid corporate hijinks. .
Actually the Clinton administration forced banks to make bad loans under threat of civil rights litigation. The plan was to bundle the bad loans with good loans and sell them back to brokers as good loans. At any rate Fannie Mae was Barney Frank's responsibility. He either lied to America or he was the biggest a-hole in history when he let Fannie go under or forced it into bankruptcy just in time for the biggest October surprise in history. The amazing thing is the news media never asked the chairperson of the Banking Committee what the hell he was doing. They just blamed it on the banks.
dont forget that mongols juchi (Muscovites) introduced pogroms and antisemitism in general , Hitler just adapted "ruSSian" way to treat the Jews and other minorities

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Rubbish. Goldman Sachs invented the tactic of bundling crap loans with good ones in order to get higher ratings and higher prices for the crap stuff, then selling the bundle off to European customers. Soon there was no way to trace them quickly, and they froze the markets up. Like I said, no one forced them or anybody else to do that. One of the first companies to fail was Thornburg, without a single bad loan in its entire portfolio; they were over-leveraged and when market liquidity dried up overnight as a result of European defaults they had no money to make margin calls on their now devalued equities. Didn't have shit to do with their 'bad mortgages', it was the mark to market rule kicking in; their own default rate was minuscule, less than0.2 %. Goldman was the first to bail, causing the entire market to drop; there wern't many big players and the were all trading with each other. Quit reading Town Hall and the other liars.
 

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