Hotel fights back after Donald Trump threatens to not pay

[Snouter]

Vince needs to provide food and beverages dammit.

For beginners...the Bogeyman says, "Sammiches" on the close and then the Mini Bogeyman appears!

 

[Muhammed]

Did you read the other article? He's been stiffing people on the bill for over 30 years

Trump may be a bit more of an ass when it comes to paying subcontractors and vendors, but that has been the game in construction and real estate work before Trump, and will continue after him.

He's just more on the asshole side of the spectrum, but there are plenty of GC's and Owners that do the exact same thing.

Those other people aren't the ones running to be president claiming to care about the "little" people

Fair point, I just don't want people to think that he's the only jerk in the construction/real estate business.

I work as a Construction Manager for wastewater/water treatment plant projects, they PAY me to be an asshole. and residential/commercial construction is 10 times worse.

How are you an asshole? Do you have them withhold payment?

Since I work for a municipal agency as a consultant, it is usually the Auditors that chip away at the payment for contractors.

What happens in Residential/Commercial is the owner usually tries to chip away at the GC's profit margin, by fighting off part of the last payment. this usually trickles down to the subcontractors, who get hurt more because they work on smaller margins.

The workers don't get shafted, they already got paid, its the owners of the construction companies and their subs that get whammed, but usually not to the point of turning over a loss on the job.

All the article does is prove that Trump is a good businessman who doesn't tolerate incompetence.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Fits his past behavior of screwing his creditors, scamming his rubes with the likes of Trump U and cutting off medical benefits to a sick child in his family

Reports published by USA Today and The Wall Street Journal in June found Trump's companies were facing hundreds of claims that Trump has stiffed people he contracted with for decades.
And he threatened to not pay his bill for the room

Hotel fights back after Donald Trump threatens to not pay - CNNPolitics.com


USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills



Donald Trump’s Business Plan Left a Trail of Unpaid Bills

Trump Once Cut Off Medical Care For Sick Infant To Spite the Parents

The Democrats should be running 3 months of nonstop testimonials from people trump has hired to do work and then not paid. That will destroy him with the middle class.

 

[Iceweasel]

Did you read the other article? He's been stiffing people on the bill for over 30 years

Trump may be a bit more of an ass when it comes to paying subcontractors and vendors, but that has been the game in construction and real estate work before Trump, and will continue after him.

He's just more on the asshole side of the spectrum, but there are plenty of GC's and Owners that do the exact same thing.

Those other people aren't the ones running to be president claiming to care about the "little" people

Fair point, I just don't want people to think that he's the only jerk in the construction/real estate business.

I work as a Construction Manager for wastewater/water treatment plant projects, they PAY me to be an asshole. and residential/commercial construction is 10 times worse.

How are you an asshole? Do you have them withhold payment?

Since I work for a municipal agency as a consultant, it is usually the Auditors that chip away at the payment for contractors.

What happens in Residential/Commercial is the owner usually tries to chip away at the GC's profit margin, by fighting off part of the last payment. this usually trickles down to the subcontractors, who get hurt more because they work on smaller margins.

The workers don't get shafted, they already got paid, its the owners of the construction companies and their subs that get whammed, but usually not to the point of turning over a loss on the job.

Well, I don't get it. Contractors have this thing called a contract. How does the water treatment plant and building owners try to get out of their end?

I've had it happen to me in residential, had to take the cvnt to small claims court but bigger dollars would surely be pursued.

 

[Muhammed]

So what?

That's between him and the hotel. It's really none of your business.

try not paying your rent in your trailer park

I'm not a tenant at my trailer park. I'm the landlord.

 

[Iceweasel]

The Democrats should be running 3 months of nonstop testimonials from people trump has hired to do work and then not paid. That will destroy him with the middle class.

Exactly the kind of low tactic they would do. But all Trump has to do is ask where the court judgment was if it were true.

 

[martybegan]

Trump may be a bit more of an ass when it comes to paying subcontractors and vendors, but that has been the game in construction and real estate work before Trump, and will continue after him.

He's just more on the asshole side of the spectrum, but there are plenty of GC's and Owners that do the exact same thing.

Those other people aren't the ones running to be president claiming to care about the "little" people

Fair point, I just don't want people to think that he's the only jerk in the construction/real estate business.

I work as a Construction Manager for wastewater/water treatment plant projects, they PAY me to be an asshole. and residential/commercial construction is 10 times worse.

How are you an asshole? Do you have them withhold payment?

Since I work for a municipal agency as a consultant, it is usually the Auditors that chip away at the payment for contractors.

What happens in Residential/Commercial is the owner usually tries to chip away at the GC's profit margin, by fighting off part of the last payment. this usually trickles down to the subcontractors, who get hurt more because they work on smaller margins.

The workers don't get shafted, they already got paid, its the owners of the construction companies and their subs that get whammed, but usually not to the point of turning over a loss on the job.

Well, I don't get it. Contractors have this thing called a contract. How does the water treatment plant and building owners try to get out of their end?

I've had it happen to me in residential, had to take the cvnt to small claims court but bigger dollars would surely be pursued.

Say your final invoice is for $110,000, and it is all profit. The owner will say, we will pay you $100,000, but not the $10,000, because X Y Z. now you have a choice, fight it, and have that $110,000 held up, or knuckle under, take your $100,000 and walk away.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

What difference does it make?

 

[Iceweasel]

Those other people aren't the ones running to be president claiming to care about the "little" people

Fair point, I just don't want people to think that he's the only jerk in the construction/real estate business.

I work as a Construction Manager for wastewater/water treatment plant projects, they PAY me to be an asshole. and residential/commercial construction is 10 times worse.

How are you an asshole? Do you have them withhold payment?

Since I work for a municipal agency as a consultant, it is usually the Auditors that chip away at the payment for contractors.

What happens in Residential/Commercial is the owner usually tries to chip away at the GC's profit margin, by fighting off part of the last payment. this usually trickles down to the subcontractors, who get hurt more because they work on smaller margins.

The workers don't get shafted, they already got paid, its the owners of the construction companies and their subs that get whammed, but usually not to the point of turning over a loss on the job.

Well, I don't get it. Contractors have this thing called a contract. How does the water treatment plant and building owners try to get out of their end?

I've had it happen to me in residential, had to take the cvnt to small claims court but bigger dollars would surely be pursued.

Say your final invoice is for $110,000, and it is all profit. The owner will say, we will pay you $100,000, but not the $10,000, because X Y Z. now you have a choice, fight it, and have that $110,000 held up, or knuckle under, take your $100,000 and walk away.

How would they know what a companies profits are? Mine is my business. I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen but if a business gets punked like that they deserve it.

 

[martybegan]

Fair point, I just don't want people to think that he's the only jerk in the construction/real estate business.

I work as a Construction Manager for wastewater/water treatment plant projects, they PAY me to be an asshole. and residential/commercial construction is 10 times worse.

How are you an asshole? Do you have them withhold payment?

Since I work for a municipal agency as a consultant, it is usually the Auditors that chip away at the payment for contractors.

What happens in Residential/Commercial is the owner usually tries to chip away at the GC's profit margin, by fighting off part of the last payment. this usually trickles down to the subcontractors, who get hurt more because they work on smaller margins.

The workers don't get shafted, they already got paid, its the owners of the construction companies and their subs that get whammed, but usually not to the point of turning over a loss on the job.

Well, I don't get it. Contractors have this thing called a contract. How does the water treatment plant and building owners try to get out of their end?

I've had it happen to me in residential, had to take the cvnt to small claims court but bigger dollars would surely be pursued.

Say your final invoice is for $110,000, and it is all profit. The owner will say, we will pay you $100,000, but not the $10,000, because X Y Z. now you have a choice, fight it, and have that $110,000 held up, or knuckle under, take your $100,000 and walk away.

How would they know what a companies profits are? Mine is my business. I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen but if a business gets punked like that they deserve it.

Most owners/Managers can figure it out. It also depends on how much the GC/sub squeals at the stiffing. If the stiff cuts into the GC/Subs bottom line too much, the owner/Manager will give in and pay them.

 

[jc456]

Fits his past behavior of screwing his creditors, scamming his rubes with the likes of Trump U and cutting off medical benefits to a sick child in his family

Reports published by USA Today and The Wall Street Journal in June found Trump's companies were facing hundreds of claims that Trump has stiffed people he contracted with for decades.
And he threatened to not pay his bill for the room

Hotel fights back after Donald Trump threatens to not pay - CNNPolitics.com

His followers care nothing about stuff like this. They just want a whiter America.

no a greater america

 

[jc456]

So what?

That's between him and the hotel. It's really none of your business.

Did you read the other article? He's been stiffing people on the bill for over 30 years

and these stories did exactly what during the primaries? Bernie's supporters are a comin and they are welcomed with open arms. See, even Bernie's side hates Clintons. it's hilarious, even BLM doesn't like Hillary. Vowing support to the green party. oops. Houston you have a problem

 

[Iceweasel]

How are you an asshole? Do you have them withhold payment?

Since I work for a municipal agency as a consultant, it is usually the Auditors that chip away at the payment for contractors.

What happens in Residential/Commercial is the owner usually tries to chip away at the GC's profit margin, by fighting off part of the last payment. this usually trickles down to the subcontractors, who get hurt more because they work on smaller margins.

The workers don't get shafted, they already got paid, its the owners of the construction companies and their subs that get whammed, but usually not to the point of turning over a loss on the job.

Well, I don't get it. Contractors have this thing called a contract. How does the water treatment plant and building owners try to get out of their end?

I've had it happen to me in residential, had to take the cvnt to small claims court but bigger dollars would surely be pursued.

Say your final invoice is for $110,000, and it is all profit. The owner will say, we will pay you $100,000, but not the $10,000, because X Y Z. now you have a choice, fight it, and have that $110,000 held up, or knuckle under, take your $100,000 and walk away.

How would they know what a companies profits are? Mine is my business. I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen but if a business gets punked like that they deserve it.

Most owners/Managers can figure it out. It also depends on how much the GC/sub squeals at the stiffing. If the stiff cuts into the GC/Subs bottom line too much, the owner/Manager will give in and pay them.

Profits? No way in hell can they figure it out. They have no clue what the companies overhead is. Making contractors squeal? Sounds like a lot of corruption in your area. Any business that knows what they are doing will not be known as parlor boy.

 

[martybegan]

Since I work for a municipal agency as a consultant, it is usually the Auditors that chip away at the payment for contractors.

What happens in Residential/Commercial is the owner usually tries to chip away at the GC's profit margin, by fighting off part of the last payment. this usually trickles down to the subcontractors, who get hurt more because they work on smaller margins.

The workers don't get shafted, they already got paid, its the owners of the construction companies and their subs that get whammed, but usually not to the point of turning over a loss on the job.

Well, I don't get it. Contractors have this thing called a contract. How does the water treatment plant and building owners try to get out of their end?

I've had it happen to me in residential, had to take the cvnt to small claims court but bigger dollars would surely be pursued.

Say your final invoice is for $110,000, and it is all profit. The owner will say, we will pay you $100,000, but not the $10,000, because X Y Z. now you have a choice, fight it, and have that $110,000 held up, or knuckle under, take your $100,000 and walk away.

How would they know what a companies profits are? Mine is my business. I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen but if a business gets punked like that they deserve it.

Most owners/Managers can figure it out. It also depends on how much the GC/sub squeals at the stiffing. If the stiff cuts into the GC/Subs bottom line too much, the owner/Manager will give in and pay them.

Profits? No way in hell can they figure it out. They have no clue what the companies overhead is. Making contractors squeal? Sounds like a lot of corruption in your area. Any business that knows what they are doing will not be known as parlor boy.

And yet they still keep working for the same people.

 

[Iceweasel]

Well, I don't get it. Contractors have this thing called a contract. How does the water treatment plant and building owners try to get out of their end?

I've had it happen to me in residential, had to take the cvnt to small claims court but bigger dollars would surely be pursued.

Say your final invoice is for $110,000, and it is all profit. The owner will say, we will pay you $100,000, but not the $10,000, because X Y Z. now you have a choice, fight it, and have that $110,000 held up, or knuckle under, take your $100,000 and walk away.

How would they know what a companies profits are? Mine is my business. I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen but if a business gets punked like that they deserve it.

Most owners/Managers can figure it out. It also depends on how much the GC/sub squeals at the stiffing. If the stiff cuts into the GC/Subs bottom line too much, the owner/Manager will give in and pay them.

Profits? No way in hell can they figure it out. They have no clue what the companies overhead is. Making contractors squeal? Sounds like a lot of corruption in your area. Any business that knows what they are doing will not be known as parlor boy.

And yet they still keep working for the same people.

If so they pad the bid knowing it will be knocked down. And probably have lunch together.

 

[martybegan]

Say your final invoice is for $110,000, and it is all profit. The owner will say, we will pay you $100,000, but not the $10,000, because X Y Z. now you have a choice, fight it, and have that $110,000 held up, or knuckle under, take your $100,000 and walk away.

How would they know what a companies profits are? Mine is my business. I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen but if a business gets punked like that they deserve it.

Most owners/Managers can figure it out. It also depends on how much the GC/sub squeals at the stiffing. If the stiff cuts into the GC/Subs bottom line too much, the owner/Manager will give in and pay them.

Profits? No way in hell can they figure it out. They have no clue what the companies overhead is. Making contractors squeal? Sounds like a lot of corruption in your area. Any business that knows what they are doing will not be known as parlor boy.

And yet they still keep working for the same people.

If so they pad the bid knowing it will be knocked down. And probably have lunch together.

Bid padding is mostly a part of municipal work, and when a GC/sub bids on a job with a known tightwad.

Problem is it takes only 1 guy to not pad, and then everyone else starts cutting back.

 

[Iceweasel]

How would they know what a companies profits are? Mine is my business. I'm not saying your scenario doesn't happen but if a business gets punked like that they deserve it.

Most owners/Managers can figure it out. It also depends on how much the GC/sub squeals at the stiffing. If the stiff cuts into the GC/Subs bottom line too much, the owner/Manager will give in and pay them.

Profits? No way in hell can they figure it out. They have no clue what the companies overhead is. Making contractors squeal? Sounds like a lot of corruption in your area. Any business that knows what they are doing will not be known as parlor boy.

And yet they still keep working for the same people.

If so they pad the bid knowing it will be knocked down. And probably have lunch together.

Bid padding is mostly a part of municipal work, and when a GC/sub bids on a job with a known tightwad.

Problem is it takes only 1 guy to not pad, and then everyone else starts cutting back.

If they underbid the job they lose out and nature will take its' course.

 

[martybegan]

Most owners/Managers can figure it out. It also depends on how much the GC/sub squeals at the stiffing. If the stiff cuts into the GC/Subs bottom line too much, the owner/Manager will give in and pay them.

Profits? No way in hell can they figure it out. They have no clue what the companies overhead is. Making contractors squeal? Sounds like a lot of corruption in your area. Any business that knows what they are doing will not be known as parlor boy.

And yet they still keep working for the same people.

If so they pad the bid knowing it will be knocked down. And probably have lunch together.

Bid padding is mostly a part of municipal work, and when a GC/sub bids on a job with a known tightwad.

Problem is it takes only 1 guy to not pad, and then everyone else starts cutting back.

If they underbid the job they lose out and nature will take its' course.

Only if they do it consistently, and only if they can't make it up with Change Orders.

 

[theHawk]

Fits his past behavior of screwing his creditors, scamming his rubes with the likes of Trump U and cutting off medical benefits to a sick child in his family

Reports published by USA Today and The Wall Street Journal in June found Trump's companies were facing hundreds of claims that Trump has stiffed people he contracted with for decades.
And he threatened to not pay his bill for the room

Hotel fights back after Donald Trump threatens to not pay - CNNPolitics.com


USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills



Donald Trump’s Business Plan Left a Trail of Unpaid Bills

Trump Once Cut Off Medical Care For Sick Infant To Spite the Parents

But when Democrats stiff taxpayers, it's OK right?

North Bay Town Feeling 'Berned' After Sanders Rally Leaves $23,000 In Unpaid Bills

 

[Weatherman2020]

Fits his past behavior of screwing his creditors, scamming his rubes with the likes of Trump U and cutting off medical benefits to a sick child in his family

Reports published by USA Today and The Wall Street Journal in June found Trump's companies were facing hundreds of claims that Trump has stiffed people he contracted with for decades.
And he threatened to not pay his bill for the room

Hotel fights back after Donald Trump threatens to not pay - CNNPolitics.com


USA TODAY exclusive: Hundreds allege Donald Trump doesn’t pay his bills



Donald Trump’s Business Plan Left a Trail of Unpaid Bills

Trump Once Cut Off Medical Care For Sick Infant To Spite the Parents

The smell of fear is invigorating.