Horrific Late-Term Abortion Clinics Opening Up In Colorado and New Jersey

[SweetSue92]

I thought so too, but that's practically a fully formed baby. This is murder. Obviously people aren't necessarily smart enough to figure that out for themselves. Otherwise this wouldn't be allowed to be happening.

It's entirely murder. The mother has to labor fully to have the baby and they kill it just before it delivers. It's demonic. Fully demonic.

 

[pknopp]

I don't believe that but I think it makes you feel better when you say such things.

I understand, you've been brainwashed to believe like so many others that one must believe this or that and there is no other way.

Some time in the future, I imagine I will be gone by then, someone will write a paper on this phenomenon.

 

[pknopp]

It's entirely murder. The mother has to labor fully to have the baby and they kill it just before it delivers. It's demonic. Fully demonic.

It was nationally banned.

 

[22lcidw]

I'll pass. If Republicans did right they would pass an actual balanced budget.

To do so means that the other side will pounce. And that is a great reason for doing it.

 

[ChristisKing]

It was nationally banned.

Before it was just left up to the states?

 

[pknopp]

Before it was just left up to the states?

Pretty much. It was very rare as it's not an easy procedure. Developed by Dr. Martin Haskell. He testified during the hearings on passing the ban. Not sure how much of this is online. Around 1993 if I recall correctly.

RvW didn't ban third semester abortions but it allowed for them to be banned.

Supreme Court Upholds Federal Abortion Ban, Opens Door for Further Restrictions by States

In a tacit reversal of long-standing precedent, the U.S. Supreme Court on April 18 upheld the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, even though the law lacks an exception to protect the health of the pregnant woman. Congress adopted and President Bush signed the ban into law in 2003, but it...

www.guttmacher.org

 

[XponentialChaos]

That has nothing to do with why I am asking the question you didn't answer.

I didn’t answer your question?

Would you be fine if they allowed murdering newborn babies?

No. Is that legal in any of the states?

 

[buckeye]

I didn’t answer your question?

My apologies. You certainly did but I missed it.

Do you support third trimester abortions?

 

[XponentialChaos]

My apologies. You certainly did but I missed it.

Do you support third trimester abortions?

I don't "support" them, but I understand that things can happen during pregnancy that should, in my opinion, allow them late in pregnancy.

Regardless of what I want, I thought we all agreed that these kinds of decisions should be left up to the states. Isn't that what you guys wanted?

 

[pknopp]

I don't "support" them, but I understand that things can happen during pregnancy that should, in my opinion, allow them late in pregnancy.

Such as?

Regardless of what I want, I thought we all agreed that these kinds of decisions should be left up to the states. Isn't that what you guys wanted?

They did.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Such as?

From AI:

Reasons: When abortions are performed later in pregnancy, it is usually due to severe fetal abnormalities, or because the pregnant person's health is at risk, or because the diagnosis of a problem was not made until later in the pregnancy.

 

[pknopp]

From AI:

Reasons: When abortions are performed later in pregnancy, it is usually due to severe fetal abnormalities, or because the pregnant person's health is at risk, or because the diagnosis of a problem was not made until later in the pregnancy.

Not true. The previously mentioned Dr Haskell noted in his testimony that the major reason was "maternal indications". When asked to explain he noted the age of the mother. In that young girls/women would hide their pregnancy for as long as they could.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Not true. The previously mentioned Dr Haskell noted in his testimony that the major reason was "maternal indications". When asked to explain he noted the age of the mother. In that young girls/women would hide their pregnancy for as long as they could.

Ok. I'm not disputing that that also happens, but I'm not going to just abandon the reasons that I provided from AI either.

What's your point?

 

[pknopp]

Ok. I'm not disputing that that also happens, but I'm not going to just abandon the reasons that I provided from AI either.

What's your point?

First, I'll dismiss anything posted from AI.

"Health" is a misnomer. In the RvW companion piece Doe v Bolton it was ruled that if there was a health exemption, that exemption must allow any reason at all. "I do not feel I'm mentally ready to have a baby" would be a valid health exemption.

Now if you support that, you do indeed support third term abortions.

 

[buckeye]

I don't "support" them, but I understand that things can happen during pregnancy that should, in my opinion, allow them late in pregnancy.

What kind of "things"?

Regardless of what I want, I thought we all agreed that these kinds of decisions should be left up to the states. Isn't that what you guys wanted?

They should.

But degenerate democrats have made it legal to murder fully formed humans in about 10 states now.

 

[XponentialChaos]

First, I'll dismiss anything posted from AI.

"Health" is a misnomer. In the RvW companion piece Doe v Bolton it was ruled that if there was a health exemption, that exemption must allow any reason at all. "I do not feel I'm mentally ready to have a baby" would be a valid health exemption.

Now if you support that, you do indeed support third term abortions.

I don't support that kind of "health exemption", no.

 

[pknopp]

But degenerate democrats have made it legal to murder fully formed humans in about 10 states now.

Careful what you wish for.

 

[pknopp]

I don't support that kind of "health exemption", no.

Just so we are clear on "health" and abortion.

 

[XponentialChaos]

What kind of "things"?

Answer in post 91.

They should.

But degenerate democrats have made it legal to murder fully formed humans in about 10 states now.

You're giving me mixed signals here. Do you want these things left up to the states or not?

 

[XponentialChaos]

Just so we are clear on "health" and abortion.

When the pregnant person's health is at risk, is it possible that there's something other than "I do not feel I'm mentally ready to have a baby"?