Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, Will Oversee Federal Response to Shooting

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Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, will oversee federal response to shooting


“We are working tirelessly,” Holder said, according to people on the call, describing how federal investigators have located more than 200 people in a week. He said the investigators are trying to determine whether there is enough evidence that Ferguson police officerDarren Wilsonused excessive force and deprived Brown of his civil rights to support a federal criminal prosecution.

Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, will oversee federal response to shooting - The Washington Post

1. Federal investigators have found over 200 witnesses??? There just happened to be 200 people where this occurred? And they all saw it go down? Come on...o_O

2. Investigators are not asking, "Tell me what happened in your own words..." They want to know, "Did the cop use excessive force? Did MB have his hands up? Did the cop have to shoot? Did the cop deprive him of his civil rights??" Doesn't this sound a bit one sided? :rolleyes:

I think Holder is ready to tar and feather this cop without much of a real hearing. :(
 
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Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, will oversee federal response to shooting




Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, will oversee federal response to shooting - The Washington Post

1. Federal investigators have found over 200 witnesses??? There just happened to be 200 people where this occurred? And they all saw it go down? Come on...o_O

2. Investigators are not asking, "Tell me what happened in your own words..." They want to know, "Did the cop use excessive force? Did MB have his hands up? Did the cop have to shoot? Did the cop deprive him of his civil rights??" Doesn't this sound a bit one sided? :rolleyes:

I think Holder is ready to tar and feather this cop without much of a real hearing. :(



Yep Holder is racist, piece of shit. I hope the cop has some good lawyers. Remember when Holder funneled money to Al Sharpton in the Trayvon Martin case?
 
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I was thinking about that. The police officer will need an excellent attorney!
 
Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, will oversee federal response to shooting

Holder headed to Ferguson on Wednesday, will oversee federal response to shooting - The Washington Post

1. Federal investigators have found over 200 witnesses??? There just happened to be 200 people where this occurred? And they all saw it go down? Come on...
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2. Investigators are not asking, "Tell me what happened in your own words..." They want to know, "Did the cop use excessive force? Did MB have his hands up? Did the cop have to shoot? Did the cop deprive him of his civil rights??" Doesn't this sound a bit one sided?
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I think Holder is ready to tar and feather this cop without much of a real hearing.
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I have doubts that there are 200 witnesses but I guess it is possible. I also have doubts about the line of questioning by the FBI that you posit. You are convinced that something nefarious is afoot by the Justice Department…you don’t trust them. Well, you should understand the mistrust I and others have towards the Ferguson Police Department. A quick review of FPD’s past history with the local Black community is quite revealing!

Holder won’t be the judge or a member of the jury if this case becomes a civil court case. And, given that the small white minority population of Ferguson has control of the local justice system, we know that the officer probably won’t even be held accountable or criminally charged. That “conservative” racist tradition Ferguson is so well known for might have some connection to Holder’s interest in this case. Holder is there to see if Brown’s civil rights were violated. If the evidence isn’t there, he likely won’t press for a trial and will drop the case.
 
I was thinking about that. The police officer will need an excellent attorney!
for the criminal trial, if there IS one, he won't need such a good attorney...thats a sure win for him. The civil trial, if one comes about, will require the best attorney available.
 
I have doubts that there are 200 witnesses but I guess it is possible. I also have doubts about the line of questioning by the FBI that you posit. You are convinced that something nefarious is afoot by the Justice Department…you don’t trust them. Well, you should understand the mistrust I and others have towards the Ferguson Police Department. A quick review of FPD’s past history with the local Black community is quite revealing!

Holder won’t be the judge or a member of the jury if this case becomes a civil court case. And, given that the small white minority population of Ferguson has control of the local justice system, we know that the officer probably won’t even be held accountable or criminally charged. That “conservative” racist tradition Ferguson is so well known for might have some connection to Holder’s interest in this case. Holder is there to see if Brown’s civil rights were violated. If the evidence isn’t there, he likely won’t press for a trial and will drop the case.


Are you living in or near Ferguson? I would guess that if there is any trial, there would be a change of venue.

It is interesting that you may live near the city and know the history of the FPD and I do not. I will have to go with your understanding. But I do feel Holder is doing everything he can to get the Police Officer arrested and on trial.
 
for the criminal trial, if there IS one, he won't need such a good attorney...thats a sure win for him. The civil trial, if one comes about, will require the best attorney available.

I hope that he will get a good one. My guess is that he will get a major attorney free of charge.
 
Are you living in or near Ferguson? I would guess that if there is any trial, there would be a change of venue.

It is interesting that you may live near the city and know the history of the FPD and I do not. I will have to go with your understanding. But I do feel Holder is doing everything he can to get the Police Officer arrested and on trial.
Since the shooting, some interesting articles about Fergusons past have surfaced. I didn't need to be there to review the past history of Ferguson. Even the people living there now wouldn't know that history without reading about it or listening to old timers. Some of the authors I read, interviewed a few of those old timers for me. Others culled information from historical archives or microfilche of old newspapers.

If I have access to all that data would living in or near ferguson matter?

Of course it doesn't matter. what does matter is that Holder knows how the criminal trial will go so he must prepare his civil case independent of the FPD's investigation of one of their own. That makes sense to me.Brown is dead and has no local law enforcement advocacy. Wilson is alive and has.not only the entire FPD behind him, I suspect most Whites sympathize with him too. Holder has the task of keeping 'em honest, at least for the civil trial.I think he will be fair in his investigation, but his authority to jail or imprison wilson doesn't exist. All he can do is present his case before a federal judge and jury! His power ends there!
 
Funny Holder doesn't head for Chicago or Detroit when folks get shot. I mean really. How many folks get murdered in those two cities and I'm sure some of em are shot by LEO's.
 
His stay needs to be BRIEF(.)
 
Well this is good news for the police officer. Holder has such a record of losing cases that the officer should end up getting a medal. Unless of course the left wing and Holder make it a kangaroo court which they already have through the media. After all this is from the administration that has executed Americans without due process. With these thugs anything is possible.
 
Well this is good news for the police officer. Holder has such a record of losing cases that the officer should end up getting a medal. Unless of course the left wing and Holder make it a kangaroo court which they already have through the media. After all this is from the administration that has executed Americans without due process. With these thugs anything is possible.

THERE IS NO CASE.
 
How nice, Holder has so much time on his hands. Maybe he'll find time for when a Asian, white, Indian, etc kid gets killed today

the most race baiting administration ever. but doing what they were elected to do..Stir it up, step on the states, break our laws, constitution and our backs
 
THERE IS NO CASE.
Yes there is a case. Anytime that the government/police use their weapons there is a case. It has to be investigated. Well it doesn't have to be investigated but SHOULD be investigated. What I think you mean is there is no case of wrong doing which probably is true. But someone did die so it needs investigated. Much like the investigation into the killing of at least four Americans by drones. Remember Holder riding to the rescue to preserve those brown skinned Americans rights?.
 
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Yes there is a case. Anytime that the government/police use their weapons there is a case. It has to be investigated. Well it doesn't have to be investigated but SHOULD be investigated. What I think you mean is there is no case of wrong doing which probably is true. But someone did die so it needs investigated. Much like the investigation into the killing of at least four Americans by drones. Remember Holder riding to the rescue to preserve those brown skinned Americans rights?.

Invesitgation is not a "case" against the officer.
 
His name should not have been released.

legally they had to sunshine laws

it looks like the city the state and the feds know

the grand jury is going to say justified

holder and his CRS team is going to do everything they can

to have their own version of a bonfire of the Vanities
 
If the Cop isn't charged Criminally he could still be charged Civilly which has a lower threshold of guilty or liability.

If he gets found guilty civilly then I'm sure his Insurance (that most Police Officers have) will pay off.
 
If the Cop isn't charged Criminally he could still be charged Civilly which has a lower threshold of guilty or liability.

If he gets found guilty civilly then I'm sure his Insurance (that most Police Officers have) will pay off.

Wait for the investigations and full autopsy(.) Plus, tox test of the officer.
 
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