Hillary Clinton suggests jailing Americans for posting "misinformation"

[pknopp]

Like the Dimwinger lies about Trump that got a person killed, and Trump shot?

I believe my first post used a Hillary lie as an example.

 

[pknopp]

Most challenges to information are not that straightforward.

Trump is a danger to democracy! Is that a lie or an opinion?

Calling election officials and trying to get them to find him votes that don't exist would be a valid example of that.

Criminally? Probably not.

Democrats favor illegal aliens over American citizens! is that a lie or is it an opinion? It all depends on who you ask which is exactly why you cannot have a law that covers that area of conversation or exchange.

It's a vast generalization.

Making it illegal for somebody to say they are the queen of England is utterly ridiculous.

I never said one should be arrested for that, did I?

i used it as en example of a lie.

Something that is demonstratively untrue and harms no one. There are already laws on the books about concealed carry so if you're going to do it you better know what state you're in.

The level of control you are seeking

I stated no level of control of anything. I simply noted that their could be lies that should be prosecuted and have an example.

gives you a way as a control freak like most lefties are. You simply cannot micromanage the free exchange of speech.

There is no blanket rule that will fit all situations and if you don't have enough goddamn common sense to sort them out on your own then you don't belong in the adult world.

It's already against the law to purjure yourself in Court... if you hand somebody some vital information that causes their death and you do it on purpose you can certainly be prosecuted for that.

However passing a law that broad brushes general information as either truthful or untruthful is not only impossible it's on the peak of insanity which is exactly where most left-wing mantra is anyway.

Yep, I condemned Hillarys lie which obviously outs me as left-wing.

 

[Hector12]

Aren't you the one who wants to shut down pro-Palestine demonstrations on Campus because some poor little Jew is upset when he sees that going to class?

You think pro Palestine demonstrations should be allowed on campuses, but you do not think Jared Taylor and Charles Murray should be allowed to speak there.

 

[Lesh]

Lies.

FIrst one donated to Dimwingers. Second one has a Biden/Harris sticker on his vehicle.

What I said was FACT jackass

One was a registered Republicans and the other a former Trump voter

FACT

 

[jotathought]

I don't have a problem with this.

The thing is, the established media, even a shitshow like Fox News, can be held accountable for spreading misinformation. They can be held liable in civil court, they can have the FCC Licenses revoked, etc.

Social Media is largely held immune from this sort of thing, "Why, I had no idea that Naziboi1488 was going to post a racist meme that gets people killed!"

Springfield Woman Who Sparked Pet-Eating Rumors Regrets Her Actions

Erika Lee, who misstated that her neighbor’s cat that went missing and was allegedly poached by Haitian neighbors, told reporters “I’m not a racist.”

www.thedailybeast.com

Now, if one of those bomb threats turned out to be real, and someone was hurt because of the FALSE rumors that she spread about eating cats, shouldn't she be held liable?

I find it funny how liberals / lefties always use Fox News as the north star on misinformation while ignoring all the other "shitshow" media like The Young Turks, Rachel Maddow, NBC, CNN, ABC and other media outlets.

Hillary is specifically targeting Americans, and there is already a deterrence, as you've highlighted. This is obviously a broader net as liberals continue to introduce or attempt to introduce exceptions to erode our First Amendment rights (i.e., hate speech).

 

[JoeB131]

The two assassins were not Republicans. You are going solely off of voter registration in a weak attempt to distance them from their shared hatred of Trump among Democrats and Liberals.

Show us where they had Republican views and were active in Conservative causes and that they attempted to take out Trump because he was not Conservative enough for them. Better yet, explain their support of ActBlue.

Voter Registtation is important.

So are stated views that they had.

Crooks was a gun nut, a registered Republican; his parent's house was festooned with Trump flags.

Routh vote for Trump in 2016 (after voting for Bernie in the primaries), Tulsi in 2020 (no word on who he voted for in the general, but is sure wasn't Biden), and Viwek and Halley in 2024.

He was another gun nut, soldier of fortune wannabe.

 

[JoeB131]

I find it funny how liberals / lefties always use Fox News as the north star on misinformation while ignoring all the other "shitshow" media like The Young Turks, Rachel Maddow, NBC, CNN, ABC and other media outlets.

That's because Fox had to pay out a NINE FIGURE settlement to Dominion for misinformation.

 

[JoeB131]

How do you think it is not lying when Democrats misquote Trump and take his comments out of context?

For example, the media reported Trump saying the following in Charlottesville:

They didn’t put themselves — and you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.

He did in fact say that, however, this is the next thing he said which was not reported because it would have ruined the false narrative they so desperately wanted to create.

So you know what, it’s fine. You’re changing history. You’re changing culture. And you had people — and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists — because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.

Now, in the other group also, you had some fine people. But you also had troublemakers, and you see them come with the black outfits and with the helmets, and with the baseball bats. You had a lot of bad people in the other group.

Many still believe the false narrative to this day, which in part why there is so much unfounded hatred for Trump. People were lied to by the mainstream media on many occasions. People were duped. Maybe you are one of them.

The fact that he called them "Very fine people" at all was the problem, not that he signalled out the Nazis as bad because they were Nazis. It also doesn't help that he invites Nick Fuentes to Mar-a-Lago.

 

[M14 Shooter]

What I said was FACT jackass
One was a registered Republicans and the other a former Trump voter
FACT

Fact:
Trump was a Democrat. He gave money to Bill Clinton.
Fact:
This proves he is a Democrat.

 

[SweetTea]

"What difference does it make"?

What difference does it make for the MSM to blatantly lie about Trump? Is that what you are asking?

 

[SweetTea]

The fact that he called them "Very fine people" at all was the problem, not that he signalled out the Nazis as bad because they were Nazis. It also doesn't help that he invites Nick Fuentes to Mar-a-Lago.

There were plenty of non-Nazi and white supremacists who were not in favor of taking down that statue. There were also some non-violent types on the other side that just felt strongly that the statue should be taken down, not just violent extremists. In other words, there were some bad people on both sides and some "fine" people on both sides. What don't you understand about that?

 

[JoeB131]

There were plenty of non-Nazi and white supremacists who were not in favor of taking down that statue. There were also some non-violent types on the other side that just felt strongly that the statue should be taken down, not just violent extremists. In other words, there were some bad people on both sides and some "fine" people on both sides. What don't you understand about that?

Nobody who wants to glorify the Confederacy is a fine person.

No one.

The Confederacy is something we should be DEEPLY ASHAMED OF, the way modern Germans are embarrassed by the Nazis if you bring that up around them.

No "fine person" would look at a statue that was put up purely as a "**** You" to black people as something that needs to be preserved.

Are we clear on this now, Cleetus?

 

[SweetTea]

I'm stopped reading your BULLSHIT the moment you defended Donald Trump's past weasel word statements and state he was "misquoted".

Here is Trump's press conference about Charlottesville. The violence in Charlottesville started on Friday night, continued all day Saturday, and ended with death of a young woman on Sunday. Trump didn't mention it until Tuesday.



Trump had to be dragged kicking and screaming in front of the cameras to even mention what happened. And then he walked all of it back when the press called him on his failure to condemn the white supremacists.

And yet they ended up mis-quoting him using what he said in the press conference where he was supposedly was walking everything back, not any of his previous comments. You guys are deluded to the fullest extent.

 

[JoeB131]

And yet they ended up mis-quoting him using what he said in the press conference where he was supposedly was walking everything back, not any of his previous comments. You guys are deluded to the fullest extent.

There was no misquoting.

Trump was trying to make racists feel better about their racism.

Thankfully, we are taking down the statues, and we are renaming the facilities named after these traitors. (Two of which I was stationed at during my career!) and naming them after true patriots who are people of color.

 

[SweetTea]

Nobody who wants to glorify the Confederacy is a fine person.

No one.

The Confederacy is something we should be DEEPLY ASHAMED OF, the way modern Germans are embarrassed by the Nazis if you bring that up around them.

No "fine person" would look at a statue that was put up purely as a "**** You" to black people as something that needs to be preserved.

Are we clear on this now, Cleetus?

No we aren't clear on it. Some of my relatives died fighting to preserve states rights. They were not bad people for trying to protect their families. They were not slave holders. There is plenty to like about the South both then and now. I know, you are living in the lap of luxury in the ghetto, but some of us have higher standards.

 

[martybegan]

Nobody who wants to glorify the Confederacy is a fine person.

No one.

The Confederacy is something we should be DEEPLY ASHAMED OF, the way modern Germans are embarrassed by the Nazis if you bring that up around them.

No "fine person" would look at a statue that was put up purely as a "**** You" to black people as something that needs to be preserved.

Are we clear on this now, Cleetus?

They were put up when the Confederate veterans were dying off, and part of the peace was to allow them to mourn their losses.

Sorry, but slavery and genocide aren't the same thing, especially slavery done when plenty of the world still did it vs. genocide when people should have known ******* better.

 

[22lcidw]

The fact that he called them "Very fine people" at all was the problem, not that he signalled out the Nazis as bad because they were Nazis. It also doesn't help that he invites Nick Fuentes to Mar-a-Lago.

Progs have hosted and/or befriended major despots for decades. Trump was good as President and was not a traitor. He also had to honor other agreements whether he made a noise about them or not. I can never look at Hollywood again in the same way with American Patriot entertainment. Many of them go to the studios in Communist uniforms and then put American uniforms on. They actually hate the American military. They do the entertainment to make it look like they are patriots to the constitution and freedom. They are not unless vetted.

 

[SweetTea]

There was no misquoting.

Trump was trying to make racists feel better about their racism.

Thankfully, we are taking down the statues, and we are renaming the facilities named after these traitors. (Two of which I was stationed at during my career!) and naming them after true patriots who are people of color.

Sure there was misquoting. They intentionally left off the part with him explicity condeming Nazis and white supremicists. They did that to trick fools like you. You low IQ folks fell for it. What else can be said?

You are an imbecile.

 

[jc456]

Everyone should be held accountable for their acts.

I'm still waiting for all the mainstream media to be held accountable for their mis representing wuhan. when will that happen?

 

[JoeB131]

No we aren't clear on it. Some of my relatives died fighting to preserve states rights. They were not bad people for trying to protect their families. They were not slave holders. There is plenty to like about the South both then and now. I know, you are living in the lap of luxury in the ghetto, but some of us have higher standards.

States rights was a bullshit excuse they came up with after the war when the blacks didn't murder them all in their sleep like they were afraid they would, and then they ended up looking even stupider than they already did.

They were ALL bad people. The ones who didn't own slaves personally still benefited from the institution and, more importantly, didn't want to compete with blacks for those lower-level jobs.

Also, they didn't want those black people ******* their sisters. That was their job!

They were put up when the Confederate veterans were dying off, and part of the peace was to allow them to mourn their losses.

We should have been more concerned with Justice than reconciliation. We are still dealing with our losing the peace after winning the war.

Sorry, but slavery and genocide aren't the same thing, especially slavery done when plenty of the world still did it vs. genocide when people should have known ******* better.

Yup, here we go again, trying to justify the unjustifiable.

Actually, Germany had better reasons to go to war in 1939 than the South did in 1861. Lincoln wasn't even going to ban slavery, just not let any new slave states in the Union.