Hey, the new democrat Assault weapon ban makes your semi auto pistol illegal......

[RealDave]

I'm still waiting for the wording from the bill that says semi-autimatic handguns can't have a detachable magazine.

Funny how it has not been posted.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

Actually Obama allowed that and then tried to cover it up.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I'm still waiting for the wording from the bill that says semi-autimatic handguns can't have a detachable magazine.

Funny how it has not been posted.

The bill bans all detachable magazines, how exactly do you load an semi automatic with no magazine dumb ass?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

Wasn't that Eric Holder?

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

No, actually that was barak obama and eric holder who ordered gun stores on the border to allow straw purchases to go through.....your government at work.....

Besides...the Mexican drug cartels want actual military rifles that can fire automatic, they don't want AR-15s....they get their fully automatic rifles from China and Europe....

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

And this would be a bad thing, why?

Because 1,500,000 Americans who use those guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders...will now be raped, robbed and murdered..........and even more since that is just the average number each year....

Are you now claiming 1.5 million Americans have used assault type weapons to stop crime?

Really?

You are that fucking stupid?

Nope....those are all guns......but AR-15 civilan rifles are used as often each year as mass shooters have used them to commit crimes...and there are 13 million AR-15 civilian rifles in private hands.....and only two were used to commit mass public shootings...

I guess with that ratio... 13,000,000 v 2.... with 84 deaths, we will have to turn in our cars....which kill over 35,000 people every year and is the leading cause of death for children.....and knives which murder over 1,500 people every year...

Right?

Oh....especially rental trucks..... 89 people murdered and over 450 injured...no more U-Haul, Home Depot.......

 

[jon_berzerk]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

nope sorry

that was your pal obama that did that

his fucked up plan is still killing people to this day

 

[MikeK]

The targeting of the weapons without consideration of who the guns belong to is insanity.

The problem is certain elements of our government are absolutely insane. Remember the Waco Massacre? How about the War On Drugs. The Vietnam fiasco. The Iraq invasion.

Are those not evidence of manifest insanity?

 

[JoeB131]

Because 1,500,000 Americans who use those guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders...will now be raped, robbed and murdered

More BS numbers. How come we aren't having 1,500,000 murders rapes and robberies in Europe or Japan, then?

 

[2aguy]

Because 1,500,000 Americans who use those guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders...will now be raped, robbed and murdered

More BS numbers. How come we aren't having 1,500,000 murders rapes and robberies in Europe or Japan, then?

You are having a lot more in Britain......as their social welfare system creates more sociopaths and they cut their police.......you have seen the links to the massive increase in violent crime there...and Japan, is pretty much a police state when it comes to crime, they can search you whenever they want for any reason they want and when you are arrested you are guilty.......also, they have a conformist society that is getting very old....

 

[2aguy]

Because 1,500,000 Americans who use those guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders...will now be raped, robbed and murdered

More BS numbers. How come we aren't having 1,500,000 murders rapes and robberies in Europe or Japan, then?

And Japan....

Japan: Gun Control and People Control



Do the gun banners have the argument won when they point to these statistics? No, they don't.

A realistic examination of Japanese culture leads to the conclusion that gun control has little, if anything, to do with Japan's low crime rates. Japan's lack of crime is more the result of the very extensive powers of the Japanese police, and the distinctive relation of the Japanese citizenry to authority. Further, none of the reasons which have made gun control succeed in Japan (in terms of disarming citizens) exist in the U.S.

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

Unlike in the United States, where the Miranda rule limits coercive police interrogation techniques, Japanese police and prosecutors may detain a suspect indefinitely until he confesses. (Technically, detentions are only allowed for three days, followed by ten day extensions approved by a judge, but defense attorneys rarely oppose the extension request, for fear of offending the prosecutor.) Bail is denied if it would interfere with interrogation.

Even after interrogation is completed, pretrial detention may continue on a variety of pretexts, such as preventing the defendant from destroying evidence. Criminal defense lawyers are the only people allowed to visit a detained suspect, and those meetings are strictly limited.

Partly as a result of these coercive practices, and partly as a result of the Japanese sense of shame, the confession rate is 95%.

For those few defendants who dare to go to trial, there is no jury. Since judges almost always defer to the prosecutors' judgment, the trial conviction rate for violent crime is 99.5%.
Of those convicted, 98% receive jail time.

In short, once a Japanese suspect is apprehended, the power of the prosecutor makes it very likely the suspect will go to jail. And the power of the policeman makes it quite likely that a criminal will be apprehended.

The police routinely ask "suspicious" characters to show what is in their purse or sack. In effect, the police can search almost anyone, almost anytime, because courts only rarely exclude evidence seized by the police -- even if the police acted illegally.

The most important element of police power, though, is not authority to search, but authority in the community. Like school teachers, Japanese policemen rate high in public esteem, especially in the countryside. Community leaders and role models, the police are trained in calligraphy and Haiku composition. In police per capita, Japan far outranks all other major democracies.

15,000 koban "police boxes" are located throughout the cities. Citizens go to the 24-hour-a-day boxes not only for street directions, but to complain about day-to-day problems, such as noisy neighbors, or to ask advice on how to raise children. Some of the policemen and their families live in the boxes. Police box officers clear 74.6% of all criminal cases cleared. Police box officers also spend time teaching neighborhood youth judo or calligraphy. The officers even hand- write their own newspapers, with information about crime and accidents, "stories about good deeds by children, and opinions of
residents."

 

[MikeK]

In the early sixties my friends and I used to hitch-hike with our 303s, because we were too young to drive, with our camping gear to hunt elk and deer.
We'd hunt and camp and when we had enough game we'd hike a few miles back to the nearest road and wait for someone in a pickup truck to take our game back to the ranches where we lived.
NO ONE EVER was accidently shot that I ever heard of.

That recollection evokes a bit of nostalgia.

Back in the early sixties you could do that. But try hitch-hiking today with a rifle slung on your shoulder. You'll be answering questions while flat on your face with half-a-dozen cops aiming their Glocks at you.

Lots of really big differences between then and now. This ain't the same America and it's getting worse.

 

[beagle9]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

Gun sellers need heavy scrutiny by everyone, because if they are allowed to get away with murder, then their actions will be like a wave trying to knock everything over. Accountability folks, accountability.

 

[beagle9]

Because 1,500,000 Americans who use those guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders...will now be raped, robbed and murdered

More BS numbers. How come we aren't having 1,500,000 murders rapes and robberies in Europe or Japan, then?

. Why don't you go there and ask on a one way ticket ?

 

[PredFan]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

Meh, it has about as much chance of passing as I have of converting my Ruger LCP to full auto using only a toothpick.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....they will make your semi auto pistol, your Glock, Sig, Beretta, Smith and Wesson pistol.....illegal........they have upped their game...and you thought they only wanted to ban all rifles....

Senate Democrats introduce new ban on 'assault weapons'

Moving past singling out specific firearms, it would also ban semi-auto handguns and rifles with a detachable magazine and only one “military characteristics” such as a pistol grip, telescoping or folding stock, or threaded barrel.

Whaaaa whaaaaaaa whaaaaaa

Yes...that is exactly the sound the Mexican citizens make as the drug cartels and their police and military allies are murdering their families and putting their bodies in incinerators...just south of our border...right now. Mexico has one gun store, run by the military and the only caliber gun a normal person, with huge connections to the government, can get, is a .22. Meanwhile, the drug cartel killers, with fully automatic military rifles from Europe and China are murdering those people in the 10s of thousands every year......thanks to people like you.....

So now I control guns in Mexico.

Good to know.

You assholes allow straw gun buyers to walk into a store in AZ & buy 40 - AR-15 rifles & tote them to the border.

So don't sit there & blame anyone else but your dear terrorist group, the NRA.

Gun sellers need heavy scrutiny by everyone, because if they are allowed to get away with murder, then their actions will be like a wave trying to knock everything over. Accountability folks, accountability.

The criminal already knows they can't buy the gun. When we catch them with the gun, that they can't buy, own or carry, all we need to do is lock them up for 30 years. The magic to that is it in no way bothers law abiding gun owners, requires no new laws, no news paperwork, and we can already do it........

 

[Peach]

Panic legislation? Keep it on the legislation, not on personalities. I see nothing but PR value in renewing sunsetted law, adding in a medley of piece meal "we are doing something" words and running with it.

However, are BUBUYBUYBUY/GETGETGET NRA and firearm enthusiasts prepared for the days the semi and atuos are no longer classidied as "guns"? Some advertiser "This isn't just a gun, it is a nuclear weapon in your hands"! ?

The gotcha is in fine print.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Because 1,500,000 Americans who use those guns to stop rapes, robberies and murders...will now be raped, robbed and murdered

More BS numbers. How come we aren't having 1,500,000 murders rapes and robberies in Europe or Japan, then?

You are having a lot more in Britain......as their social welfare system creates more sociopaths and they cut their police.......you have seen the links to the massive increase in violent crime there...and Japan, is pretty much a police state when it comes to crime, they can search you whenever they want for any reason they want and when you are arrested you are guilty.......also, they have a conformist society that is getting very old....

Yup in Japan they have like a 97 percent conviction rate cause they don't arrest and try people they cant convict lived in Okinawa for 4 years as a Marine. The Japanese cops are not playing around.

 

[MikeK]

[...]

The Japanese criminal justice system bears more heavily on a suspect than any other system in an industrial democratic nation. One American found this out when he was arrested in Okinawa for possessing marijuana: he was interrogated for days without an attorney, and signed a confession written in Japanese that he could not read. He met his lawyer for the first time at his trial, which took 30 minutes.

[...]

Wow! Reefer Madness has taken hold on Okinawa.

When I was stationed on Okinawa in 1957/58 we bought soup cans packed to the brim with the most potent, seedless and cleaned, indica sinsemilla I've ever experienced for two cartons of Pall Mall cigarettes (which cost a dollar a carton at the PX) and ten dollars cash, from the mama-sans who did our laundry. That's a total of twelve dollars for something that would cost about four thousand dollars today.

They grew that superb cannabis in secluded rice paddies and I never heard of the civilian authorities paying any attention to it. But the Occupation was still in effect back then and the U.S. Military was in charge of everything. Back then the civilian cops did little more than direct traffic.

 

[JoeB131]

You are having a lot more in Britain......as their social welfare system creates more sociopaths and they cut their police......

the British have NOWHERE NEAR our crime levels.

and Japan, is pretty much a police state when it comes to crime, they can search you whenever they want for any reason they want and when you are arrested you are guilty

Really, so Japan only locks up 69,000 people in a population of 130 Million, and they are a police state. It's considered a controversy if they even pull their guns from their holsters.

But America locks up 2 Million out of a 300 million, the police shoot 1200 Americans a year.

But Japan is a "police state" and we are the "land of the free"... for white people, anyway. Keep telling yourself that.