Here's your next conservative ban in the on going corporate collusion

[Synthaholic]

Notice that no one has tried to silence any liberals to date.

How ignorant are you? Very ignorant or super ignorant?

Stop Bill Maher from speaking at UC Berkeley's December graduation

I win again!

 

[miketx]

Notice that no one has tried to silence any liberals to date.

How ignorant are you? Very ignorant or super ignorant?

Stop Bill Maher from speaking at UC Berkeley's December graduation

Why does antifa still have Facebook and twitter accounts?

Twitter and facebook allow hate groups, so long as they hate the "right" groups.

 

[eagle1462010]

Notice that no one has tried to silence any liberals to date.

How ignorant are you? Very ignorant or super ignorant?

Stop Bill Maher from speaking at UC Berkeley's December graduation

I win again!

Why we have a happy troll here................better than being a sad one...........I guess......derp

 

[OldLady]

The group and its members self-identify as “Western chauvinists,” and McInnes has in the past publicly distanced himself from white supremacists. However, Proud Boys regularly take part in far-right events, where members have been observed participating in violence against counter-demonstrators. Before its suspension Friday, the official Twitter account of the organization featured a cover photo of a Proud Boy punching a counter-protester.
Twitter Shuts Down Accounts of Vice Co-Founder Gavin McInnes, Proud Boys Ahead of ‘Unite the Right’ Rally

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

There is nothing wrong with Westerners believing Western societies are better than those who hang gays from cranes, or push them off rooftops, or those that destroy the genitalia of women, or those that imprison journalists and teachers on trumped up charges, or where women are chattel, just a few examples. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

And Muslim societies could some up with an equally unfair but technically accurate list of atrocities that the West has enacted. Don't you see? I suppose you don't. I believe you're genuine in your hatred of Muslims.

Where have I ever objected to any muslim nation or Muslim people saying and believing they think their way is best? That’s right, I haven’t.

That’s because I’m not the one who is scared of people thinking they do it better.

In fact I believe it’s natural for people to think their nation or their people or their religion or their culture etc are the best - it’s you who seems to have a problem with it WHEN it is a view espoused by Westerners.

Nativism has a long, ugly history. I don't want our country going back down that path. Well, we already are, but I can go kicking and screaming. It isn't right. This isn't about "Gee I like my culture better, it feels more comfortable." It is about people who feel so strongly that the "other" is wrong that they band together to make a big issue about it and even take it to the streets. That does not end well, either.

 

[eagle1462010]

Before this is over.......there will be blood in the streets............it is headed in that path.............

The rhetoric only heats up........so down that path we go..............

 

[OldLady]

Here we go with some more collusion. Damn liberals are cowards!

Uber, Lyft, DC restaurants to ban 'Unite the Right' rally participants; Twitter suspends numerous far-Right accounts

Uber and Lyft told drivers they have a right to kick a passenger out of car if they are harassed or threatened, The Washington Post reported
That's a little different than "banning them," mike. You want the drivers to be harassed or threatened? It doesn't really matter who does that, does it?
The restaurants will probably have some pretty wound up people coming in to eat, I imagine. I would be eating at home tomorrow if I lived in D.C.

 

[OldLady]

The group and its members self-identify as “Western chauvinists,” and McInnes has in the past publicly distanced himself from white supremacists. However, Proud Boys regularly take part in far-right events, where members have been observed participating in violence against counter-demonstrators. Before its suspension Friday, the official Twitter account of the organization featured a cover photo of a Proud Boy punching a counter-protester.
Twitter Shuts Down Accounts of Vice Co-Founder Gavin McInnes, Proud Boys Ahead of ‘Unite the Right’ Rally

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

There is nothing wrong with Westerners believing Western societies are better than those who hang gays from cranes, or push them off rooftops, or those that destroy the genitalia of women, or those that imprison journalists and teachers on trumped up charges, or where women are chattel, just a few examples. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

And Muslim societies could some up with an equally unfair but technically accurate list of atrocities that the West has enacted. Don't you see? I suppose you don't. I believe you're genuine in your hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we all know you seem to believe a lot of things that aren’t true, like multi racial groups are white supremacists. Lol.

Stop acting stupid.

 

[OldLady]

Amazing isn't it how liberals continually derail topics they don't want to hear? Nazis, white supremes, muslims... etc!

This thread IS about hate groups and what to do with them. You started the thread, you ought to know that.
What would you consider more topical than talking about hate groups?

 

[Tilly]

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

There is nothing wrong with Westerners believing Western societies are better than those who hang gays from cranes, or push them off rooftops, or those that destroy the genitalia of women, or those that imprison journalists and teachers on trumped up charges, or where women are chattel, just a few examples. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

And Muslim societies could some up with an equally unfair but technically accurate list of atrocities that the West has enacted. Don't you see? I suppose you don't. I believe you're genuine in your hatred of Muslims.

Yes, we all know you seem to believe a lot of things that aren’t true, like multi racial groups are white supremacists. Lol.

Stop acting stupid.

Truth isn’t stupid, OL!
Maybe you thinking it is, is why you lie?

 

[Tilly]

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

There is nothing wrong with Westerners believing Western societies are better than those who hang gays from cranes, or push them off rooftops, or those that destroy the genitalia of women, or those that imprison journalists and teachers on trumped up charges, or where women are chattel, just a few examples. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

And Muslim societies could some up with an equally unfair but technically accurate list of atrocities that the West has enacted. Don't you see? I suppose you don't. I believe you're genuine in your hatred of Muslims.

Where have I ever objected to any muslim nation or Muslim people saying and believing they think their way is best? That’s right, I haven’t.

That’s because I’m not the one who is scared of people thinking they do it better.

In fact I believe it’s natural for people to think their nation or their people or their religion or their culture etc are the best - it’s you who seems to have a problem with it WHEN it is a view espoused by Westerners.

Nativism has a long, ugly history. I don't want our country going back down that path. Well, we already are, but I can go kicking and screaming. It isn't right. This isn't about "Gee I like my culture better, it feels more comfortable." It is about people who feel so strongly that the "other" is wrong that they band together to make a big issue about it and even take it to the streets. That does not end well, either.

Are you suggesting people who feel differently to you shouldn’t be allowed to take to the streets, or are you just whining that they can and do avail themselves of that right?

 

[miketx]

Here we go with some more collusion. Damn liberals are cowards!

Uber, Lyft, DC restaurants to ban 'Unite the Right' rally participants; Twitter suspends numerous far-Right accounts

Uber and Lyft told drivers they have a right to kick a passenger out of car if they are harassed or threatened, The Washington Post reported
That's a little different than "banning them," mike. You want the drivers to be harassed or threatened? It doesn't really matter who does that, does it?
The restaurants will probably have some pretty wound up people coming in to eat, I imagine. I would be eating at home tomorrow if I lived in D.C.

The problem is that liberals idea of harassment or threats is simply disagreeing with them.

 

[Tilly]

Here we go with some more collusion. Damn liberals are cowards!

Uber, Lyft, DC restaurants to ban 'Unite the Right' rally participants; Twitter suspends numerous far-Right accounts

Uber and Lyft told drivers they have a right to kick a passenger out of car if they are harassed or threatened, The Washington Post reported
That's a little different than "banning them," mike. You want the drivers to be harassed or threatened? It doesn't really matter who does that, does it?
The restaurants will probably have some pretty wound up people coming in to eat, I imagine. I would be eating at home tomorrow if I lived in D.C.

It’s the left who like to harass diners.

 

[OldLady]

I'm getting mighty sick and tired of every single person left of Rand Paul being labeled as Antifa.

Absolutely PRICELESS from someone who just labelled a group she admitted to KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT as white supremacists on the basis they aren’t leftists, and who supports the blacklisting of speakers from uni’s and web sites on the basis that all she knows about them is they are not leftists!
Dear God woman! It is terrifying that you allege to be a teacher!
You have absolutley no self awareness or self knowledge.
Just like ANTIFA you are a fascist who keeps insisting the opposite whilst demonstrating day in and day out that you are in fact and deed - a fascist

^^^^ Pure troll ^^^^^
Feel better now?

i might feel better if you stopped slandering people and labelling them after admitting in the very same thread that you know nothing at all about them.

I’d have thought that might make you feel better too?

And why are you keeping this running?

Anyone would think you enjoy pretending to be a victim or something!

Now, i suggest you quit trolling as you aren’t addressing any of the points raised against your baseless accusations and slander here, you are simply whining and trolling and playing the victim.

I am not going to stop responding until you stop your horseshit trolling. This is a stupid waste of time and I would actually prefer a serious response to my last question. But if this is how you want to play it, so be it.

 

[OldLady]

Yes. They're cultish, "anti-guys." Twitter had a reason. I obviously don't follow the Proud Boys or McGinnes, but I trust if they did it that they have a reason. I would like to hear it.

Yet another subject you admit to knowing nothing about, but you weigh in anyway, label them as white supremacists when they have members who aren’t white, and then confer TRUST in a mega Corp simply on the basis they are acting against people in support of your agenda, fascist.

Don't be stealing Cecille's trolling ideas, Tilly. I have as much right to weigh in on this as anyone else, although being the fascist you are, you would like to silence me.

Yes you have the right to make an idiot of yourself daily - weighing in on subjects and labelling people white supremacists etc when you’ve just admitted you know absolutely nothing about them!
I don’t want to stop you, OL!
It’s way too much fun watching you demonstrate your idiotic fascism on a public stage. Keep it up!

Novel attack mode. I'm really impressed.

It’s a summary of your behaviour in this and many other threads.
Try to stop playing the victim.

I'd rather you respond to this than continue your trolling me.

Nativism has a long, ugly history. I don't want our country going back down that path. Well, we already are, but I can go kicking and screaming. It isn't right. This isn't about "Gee I like my culture better, it feels more comfortable." It is about people who feel so strongly that the "other" is wrong that they band together to make a big issue about it and even take it to the streets. That does not end well, either.

 

[miketx]

 

[OldLady]

This would be a more interesting thread if you would get back on topic and stop trolling me.

Pointing out your lies and slander isn’t trolling.

That's all it is; ad hominems to get me off the thread.

Quit the victim mentality.
I don’t want you off the thread, my dear.
You occasionally post things I agree with or find informative and I indicate that too.
But when you lie and label after admitting to being clueless on the matter at hand, I will point it out. Same with your fascism, since you keep insisting you support the freedoms you continue to advocate against!

I did not lie. I corrected myself six pages ago and you have yet to stop harping on it or turn your attention to the content of this thread. I would like an answer, Tilly. Why must Twitter allow Proud Boys to remain when it has violated its rules against hate speech? It is a private company. Proud Boys is openly anti-Muslim and anti-gay. Two groups that do not deserve uniform hatred from anyone. You can call that free speech. I don't, and I don't see why it has to be tolerated on an international forum. The garbage that some people consider "holy" and in need of protection is just amazing.

A couple of things here:

You labelled a group you admitted to knowing absolutely nothing about as a white supremacist group. That was a lie, so you lied.

When caught out in the lie you tried to back peddle by referring to their preference for the West.
And you even posted a video that shows they aren’t even comprised of all white members to support your slander that they are white supremacists

Eventually you admitted you were wrong to label them white supremacists, but you still lied about and slandered them in the first instance. You lied and slandered them until you were repeatedly taken to task over the issue.

The only reason this part of the discussion is still ongoing, is that you don’t seem to want to let it drop.
You seem to like pretending to be a victim who is being trolled.
I’m happy I’ve made my point, but if you keep whining and falsely accusing me of trolling, I will happily respond and explain my position until you get it.

As for the rest, I’ve already responded and I’m looking forward to you showing me the evidence of hate speech Twitter says they engaged in.

Unlike you, I don’t simply TRUST on the baisis of no evidence, particularly when their appears to be a social media witch hunt going on against those who aren’t left wing.

No, you haven't responded; you're just harping on me, again. I'm waiting.

 

[Tilly]

I'm getting mighty sick and tired of every single person left of Rand Paul being labeled as Antifa.

Absolutely PRICELESS from someone who just labelled a group she admitted to KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT as white supremacists on the basis they aren’t leftists, and who supports the blacklisting of speakers from uni’s and web sites on the basis that all she knows about them is they are not leftists!
Dear God woman! It is terrifying that you allege to be a teacher!
You have absolutley no self awareness or self knowledge.
Just like ANTIFA you are a fascist who keeps insisting the opposite whilst demonstrating day in and day out that you are in fact and deed - a fascist

^^^^ Pure troll ^^^^^
Feel better now?

i might feel better if you stopped slandering people and labelling them after admitting in the very same thread that you know nothing at all about them.

I’d have thought that might make you feel better too?

And why are you keeping this running?

Anyone would think you enjoy pretending to be a victim or something!

Now, i suggest you quit trolling as you aren’t addressing any of the points raised against your baseless accusations and slander here, you are simply whining and trolling and playing the victim.

I am not going to stop responding until you stop your horseshit trolling. This is a stupid waste of time and I would actually prefer a serious response to my last question. But if this is how you want to play it, so be it.

You, my dear, are the troll here. And it’s all because you cannot tolerate the fact that you were caught lying and slandering. If you don’t want that pointed out to you, just don’t do it.

 

[OldLady]

ANIFTA anyone? Anyone at all.

Oh, that's right......anti-fascism is bad....................................to trumpanzees.

I'm getting mighty sick and tired of every single person left of Rand Paul being labeled as Antifa. ******* sick of it. What do you think the percentage of them is to the average Democrat? Antifa breaks some windows and got a few pussies not to speak at a college. Big deal. The Unite the Right folks ran over a woman in Charlottesville. Any group that plays footsies with neo-Nazis has something wrong with them. The Proud Boys hate Muslims and gays as part of their platform. They're not something to be proud of.

You call the people that were targeted for violence and intimidation, and stayed away, "pussies",

Yet, in the same post you attack the Proud Boys for standing their ground and fighting back.


Seems like anyone that disagrees with you, can't win. No matter what they do, they are bad people and you were personally attack them.


That is unfair of you.

you attack the Proud Boys for standing their ground and fighting back.
I do not recall saying that. If I had been Ann Coulter or Milo, I would have spoken anyway those nights, if the college would have let me. I suppose it wasn't their call. The campuses seem to have solved the problem, though, since I am not finding any such situations in well over a year. How many more years will it be before you stop pulling it up as one of your favorite bitching points? Just curious.

Did you actually try and find out if there were any Conservatives scheduled to speak or not? Because I havent heard of any.

Is Ben Shapiro conservative enough for you? There are others here as well, just as an example.

YAF Upcoming Events - Students

 

[Tilly]

I'm getting mighty sick and tired of every single person left of Rand Paul being labeled as Antifa.

Absolutely PRICELESS from someone who just labelled a group she admitted to KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT as white supremacists on the basis they aren’t leftists, and who supports the blacklisting of speakers from uni’s and web sites on the basis that all she knows about them is they are not leftists!
Dear God woman! It is terrifying that you allege to be a teacher!
You have absolutley no self awareness or self knowledge.
Just like ANTIFA you are a fascist who keeps insisting the opposite whilst demonstrating day in and day out that you are in fact and deed - a fascist

^^^^ Pure troll ^^^^^
Feel better now?

i might feel better if you stopped slandering people and labelling them after admitting in the very same thread that you know nothing at all about them.

I’d have thought that might make you feel better too?

And why are you keeping this running?

Anyone would think you enjoy pretending to be a victim or something!

Now, i suggest you quit trolling as you aren’t addressing any of the points raised against your baseless accusations and slander here, you are simply whining and trolling and playing the victim.

I am not going to stop responding until you stop your horseshit trolling. This is a stupid waste of time and I would actually prefer a serious response to my last question. But if this is how you want to play it, so be it.

You’ve had several serious responses, but you keep returning to posts from pages ago in order to troll some more.

 

[miketx]

Pointing out your lies and slander isn’t trolling.

That's all it is; ad hominems to get me off the thread.

Quit the victim mentality.
I don’t want you off the thread, my dear.
You occasionally post things I agree with or find informative and I indicate that too.
But when you lie and label after admitting to being clueless on the matter at hand, I will point it out. Same with your fascism, since you keep insisting you support the freedoms you continue to advocate against!

I did not lie. I corrected myself six pages ago and you have yet to stop harping on it or turn your attention to the content of this thread. I would like an answer, Tilly. Why must Twitter allow Proud Boys to remain when it has violated its rules against hate speech? It is a private company. Proud Boys is openly anti-Muslim and anti-gay. Two groups that do not deserve uniform hatred from anyone. You can call that free speech. I don't, and I don't see why it has to be tolerated on an international forum. The garbage that some people consider "holy" and in need of protection is just amazing.

A couple of things here:

You labelled a group you admitted to knowing absolutely nothing about as a white supremacist group. That was a lie, so you lied.

When caught out in the lie you tried to back peddle by referring to their preference for the West.
And you even posted a video that shows they aren’t even comprised of all white members to support your slander that they are white supremacists

Eventually you admitted you were wrong to label them white supremacists, but you still lied about and slandered them in the first instance. You lied and slandered them until you were repeatedly taken to task over the issue.

The only reason this part of the discussion is still ongoing, is that you don’t seem to want to let it drop.
You seem to like pretending to be a victim who is being trolled.
I’m happy I’ve made my point, but if you keep whining and falsely accusing me of trolling, I will happily respond and explain my position until you get it.

As for the rest, I’ve already responded and I’m looking forward to you showing me the evidence of hate speech Twitter says they engaged in.

Unlike you, I don’t simply TRUST on the baisis of no evidence, particularly when their appears to be a social media witch hunt going on against those who aren’t left wing.

No, you haven't responded; you're just harping on me, again. I'm waiting.

I see, all of her responses to you aren't responses in the same way that colluding to suppress conservative voices isn't collusion. Or some kind of babble dumblefuckstupid, amirite?