Here's the problem with the gun debate.

[Woodznutz]

I felt that this belongs in this forum because most such articles strongly advocate for stricter gun laws.

This is a prime example of the misinformation available on the subject. I challenge anyone to find one single data point in this article.

Annual Gun Violence Data | Center for Gun Violence Solutions

 

[Meathead]

I felt that this belongs in this forum because most such articles strongly advocate for stricter gun laws.

This is a prime example of the misinformation available on the subject. I challenge anyone to find one single data point in this article.

percent of gun deaths from police actions - Bing

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The problem is that every time something like that happens, there's a hubabaloo about it then in a week or so everyone forgets about till the next time. Ultimately it becomes repetitious and tedious.

It's extremely tiresome and I don't give a rat's ass any more.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

The problem is that every time something like that happens, there's a hubabaloo about it then in a week or so everyone forgets about till the next time. Ultimately it becomes repetitious and tedious.

It's extremely tiresome and I don't give a rat's ass any more.

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I have a sense that this time will be different. My feeling might come from the fact that I'm a Catholic, but it just feels different.

The left cult is hoisted on its own petard because this time, they just continue to pump out really vicious publicity of themselves -- people in this board are not even trying to hide their glee at the fact that Catholics got injured and martyred by their cult.

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[Woodznutz]

"ALSO THE LEFT" seems somewhat open minded.

 

[MisterBeale]

"ALSO THE LEFT" seems somewhat open minded.

My point is, for the last few years, the establishment has been trying to get folks to believe that crime is at historic lows, while also telling us that gun violence is at an all time high.

Doublethink - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Woodznutz]

My point is, for the last few years, the establishment has been trying to get folks to believe that crime is at historic lows, while also telling us that gun violence is at an all time high.

Doublethink - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Crime is down but still high.
America has this thinking flaw, that if some problem declines a little that it has been entirely solved.

 

[Dorian Mode]

I have an easy way to interpret these debates. Don't listen to the left. They only lie and produce false narratives. It's the ends that justify the means. Listen to Independents if you want a wide variety of viewpoints.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I have an easy way to interpret these debates. Don't listen to the left. They only lie and produce false narratives. It's the ends that justify the means. Listen to Independents if you want a wide variety of viewpoints.

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Yeah, I long ago stopped listening to them for any reason but to watch them humiliate themselves.


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[Hafar1014]

My point is, for the last few years, the establishment has been trying to get folks to believe that crime is at historic lows, while also telling us that gun violence is at an all time high.

Doublethink - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Only in democrat cities. Nation wide its down while at the same time gun sales increased

 

[Hafar1014]

Crime is down but still high.
America has this thinking flaw, that if some problem declines a little that it has been entirely solved.

Crime is up in democrat cities nationwide its down as gun sales increase so its nit the guns its who runs a city that creates crime

 

[Failzero]

A real acknowledged Mental Illness tsunami will need new considerations for Sensible Firearms Restrictions ?

 

[Hafar1014]

A real acknowledged Mental Illness tsunami will need new considerations for Sensible Firearms Restrictions ?

Yes add a medical background check to the 4473

 

[Failzero]

Yes add a medical background check to the 4473

HIPPA Waiver ( Problem Solved )

 

[JWBooth]

Biggest problem with the gun debate is that there is a gun debate.

 

[Woodznutz]

Biggest problem with the gun debate is that there is a gun debate.

Sans guns we would still have horrific murders and suicides.

 

[M14 Shooter]

There's no debate.
The left wants to restrict gun ownership as much as it possibly can because it believes the state should have a monopoly on force.
It will not compromise, and it will not stop until it gets what it wants.
Thus, there's no reason to negotiate or debate with them - your every response should begin and end with "**** you - no".

 

[whitehall]

The question is whether Johns Hopkins is biased against gun ownership. Universities generally are. Its easy to fudge data based on selected unverified and biased polling data to get the results you want.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Crime isn’t down. The reporting of crime is down and the definition of crimes have been changed.

 

[Rogue AI]

The real problem with the gun 'debate' is the simplicity and clarity of the 2nd itself. There really is no argument.