Here's The Bleak Reality Of Life In The Hamas-Controlled Gaza Strip

[rhodescholar]

[QUOTE="longknife, post: 10401619] In spite of billions of dollars in humanitarian aid. Where has it all gone? Certainly not to the common people.

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Who in their right mind would want to fund more terror tunnels being built?

Why don't people sue the EU for donating funds to hamas that were used to build terror infrastructure, buy weapons, etc?

 

[member]

In spite of billions of dollars in humanitarian aid. Where has it all gone? Certainly not to the common people.


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". . .Where has it all gone?"


the usual.

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"Certainly not to the common people."

yeah, the common people....

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[teddyearp]

Humanity and others. You do realize that even though Israel and Egypt have their 'blockade' of Gaza, Hamas is even more in control over the border crossings.

It escapes me now (the links to the stories I read earlier this week about this), but Abbas has tried to exercise a PA control over the Gaza crossings in an attempt to allow this aid in.

Teddy, now, we BOTH know that is not entirely true don't we...

"Not entirely true" why whatever do you mean? Are you agreeing or not? Oh, you are implying this:

If the US orders Israel and Egypt to close the borders they WILL be closed, end of story!

To which I ask,

HOWEVER....

The aid isn't there right now... A very small amount of aid that was pledged has actually been made available....

At the moment it's not about who controls the border crossings its about making it available....

If the international community are wary of handing over cash and supplies to Hamas then there needs to be an agreement where a 3rd party can ensure the correct and proper use of the aid being sent into Gaza.

And this is not the fault of Israel, Egypt, nor the United States of America.

 

[teddyearp]

Palestinians have always suffered from have a bunch of corrupt terrorist thieves like Arafat and now Hamas leading them. These so called leaders incite the people into religious based violence and savagery, lining up their blood drenched pockets while their people sacrifice themselves to increase their foreign secret bank accounts.

Actually this is not too far off the mark.

Not off the mark? It's precisely accurate. Suha Arafat is sitting comfy in France with billions of dollars in secret bank accounts stolen by her terrorist husband. She refuses to set foot in the West Bank or Gaza, or send a single DIME to help her "poor suffering occupied people". What does that tell you.

I think you misread, or I misspoke. I agree with your post. The Palestinian leaders are getting rich from their followers' continued suffering

 

[aris2chat]

In spite of billions of dollars in humanitarian aid. Where has it all gone? Certainly not to the common people.


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Yes, I read that earlier on my news feeds. Hamas could have done so much for the people, instead they prefer war. They don't even want Abbas to go the UN on the issue of statehood. Desperation and destruction are the aims of hamas, so it seems.

It seems that most of the aid hasn't been delivered...

Only fraction of Gaza pledged aid delivered - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

BBC News - Gaza reconstruction facing obstacles despite aid

The money to pay for the supplies. Money promised by the global nations. Not Israel's responsibility. Israel will deliver only what is paid for.
No aid money, no aid.

Not Israel's responsibility, never said it was...

The international community needs to get it's act together and resolve this...

When Gaza is ready to but down it's arms and pick up shoves instead. Stop killing and start building a nation.

 

[teddyearp]

Maybe if the IDF targeted hamas leaders houses and destroyed them then they might crawl to the negotiating table,

Yeah, but many of Hamas' leaders have houses and homes elsewhere; a lot of them do not even join in the fighting when it occurs.

 

[aris2chat]

Yes, I read that earlier on my news feeds. Hamas could have done so much for the people, instead they prefer war. They don't even want Abbas to go the UN on the issue of statehood. Desperation and destruction are the aims of hamas, so it seems.

It seems that most of the aid hasn't been delivered...

Only fraction of Gaza pledged aid delivered - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

BBC News - Gaza reconstruction facing obstacles despite aid

The money to pay for the supplies. Money promised by the global nations. Not Israel's responsibility. Israel will deliver only what is paid for.
No aid money, no aid.

Not Israel's responsibility, never said it was...

The international community needs to get it's act together and resolve this...

Not if hamas wants to start another war. Not if hamas will not work with abbas to form a unity government. Not if they cannot schedule an election. Not if abbas goes to the UN without hamas support to petition for statehood. Not if the PA or hamas is unwilling to negotiate with Israel.
The global nations do not want to throw good money after bad. They want their investments to improve the situation so the two parts of the palestinians can work for a peace in the region.

The sadness is that this is humanitarian aid that needs to be delivered now...

Aside from those issues mentioned above, there is also the issue of all aid passing through Israel. Not that I am suggesting that Israel will deliberately withhold aid from Gaza but there is a certain responsibility being placed upon Israel to ensure that materials are used for humanitarian purposes.... I am sure that Israel is not so happy with this 'responsibility'....

A solution would be to have a '3rd party' involved, being 'responsible' for the movement and application of aid within Gaza...

Israel would never allow it even if Hamas did!

Yes there does need to be an election scheduled in Gaza, the sooner the better! Abbas needs to take control... Unfortunately I don't think that Israel particularly want that to happen... Keeping Hamas in Gaza provide Israel with 'opportunities'...

Abbas can go to the UN and petition for Statehood... The US will simply veto it... With or without Hamas... The US will ALWAYS veto it...

However, aid is needed now, putting in a '3rd party' to oversee the operation and ensure that Hamas is using materials for reconstruction and not tunnels is a no brainer...

Someone needs to let it happen!

Even humanitarian aid needs to be paid for.
Hamas have been testing new rocket, building tunnels and trying to instigate another war to move the focus onto Israel and away from their failings.
If supplies or money is not given by the states that promised aid then how can Israel deliver it?
Supplies were delivered to the UN and other organizations. Hamas had the cement factory operational but it was not for the UN or others that needed to build for the camps.
Billions were just promised for the UN schools but the UN actually getting the money or supplies is problematic since once aid is delivered hamas take control of it and distributes, or not, to the intended groups. Israel delivers to the check points where they get handed over. Without a unity government hamas is still the authority in gaza. Neither the PA or Israel can ensure supplies getting into the hand of the intended.
Supplies of food and medicine have expired waiting for hamas to move them. Shipping boxes sit on the gaza side of the check points in the hands of hamas that don't get delivered. You want more supplies in the hands of hamas?
There has to be some way to ensure the supplies get to the intended directly by passing hamas. Unless you want Israeli soldiers to escort the supplies directly and become the delivery service operating in gaza, how are you going to make hamas take care of the gazans instead of blaming others?

 

[teddyearp]

Israel delivers to the check points where they get handed over. Without a unity government hamas is still the authority in gaza. Neither the PA or Israel can ensure supplies getting into the hand of the intended.
Supplies of food and medicine have expired waiting for hamas to move them. Shipping boxes sit on the gaza side of the check points in the hands of hamas that don't get delivered.

This is exactly the same point I was trying to make. Israel delivers to the check points, but HAMAS is in control from that point forward.

 

[Roudy]

Palestinians have always suffered from have a bunch of corrupt terrorist thieves like Arafat and now Hamas leading them. These so called leaders incite the people into religious based violence and savagery, lining up their blood drenched pockets while their people sacrifice themselves to increase their foreign secret bank accounts.

Actually this is not too far off the mark.

Not off the mark? It's precisely accurate. Suha Arafat is sitting comfy in France with billions of dollars in secret bank accounts stolen by her terrorist husband. She refuses to set foot in the West Bank or Gaza, or send a single DIME to help her "poor suffering occupied people". What does that tell you.

I think you misread, or I misspoke. I agree with your post. The Palestinian leaders are getting rich from their followers' continued suffering

No problem. I was just jokingly correcting your "not too far off the mark" to " exactly on the mark".

 

[docmauser1]

In spite of billions of dollars in humanitarian aid. Where has it all gone? Certainly not to the common people.
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It's the will of allah.