Blues Man
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The universe screams purpose. We live in a logical universe governed by rules, laws and information. Rules laws and information are signs of intelligence. Intentionality and purpose are signs of intelligence. The definition of reason is a cause, explanation, or justification for an action or event. The definition of purpose is the reason for which something is done or created or for which something exists. The consequence of a logical universe is that every cause has an effect. Which means that everything happens for a reason and serves a purpose. The very nature of our physical laws point to reason and purpose.You still haven't answered the question. Does purpose matter? Is having a purpose important? Because I don't see how purpose can't matter. I don't see how purpose isn't important. You want to argue about whether there is purpose without first acknowledging that having a purpose - as a rule - can be a good thing.First things first. Does purpose matter? Is having a purpose important?First things first. Does purpose matter?I define my purpose not you and not some god that may or may not exist.Purpose matters.Because I don not believe it matters.Then the question to explore is why be apathetic whether God does or does not exist?Defined as uncaring or indifferent to the possibility that gods may or may not exist.
I would not change the way I live if it was proven that a god snapped his fingers and created the universe. We showed up after the universe began and we'll be extinct before the universe ends. So the only thing that matters as far as I'm concerned is what we do in the short time we are alive.
My purpose that I have chosen to guide my life matters to me. I really don't care if it matters to you.
We can get into your purpose later.
Yeah you think the universe has a purpose. I don't.
Existence can be defined - but not limited to - as everything that has occurred since the beginning of space and time. The purpose of existence is to produce beings that know and create. You can know that by examining how space and time evolved; by studying the physical, biological and moral laws of nature.
I already told you my purpose matters to me.
It doesn't matter to the universe or to anyone else.
I don't know how you got to purpose from my statement that I don't think it matters if any gods exist or not unless you think gods give you purpose.
And I still don't believe the universe has a purpose. You are saying what you think the purpose of the universe is and that's your opinion.
I disagree.
The universe is just a place where things can happen. We are the result of trillions upon trillions to the trillionth power of random events. We are insignificant compared to the entirety of the universe.
Humans have a tendency to project their their perspective onto anything and everything.
If the universe has a purpose then I must have a purpose. If the universe has no purpose then I must have no purpose.
Some people find that unsettling.
Looking at it from an human evolutionary perspective we could say prehistoric man's only purpose was to survive and procreate. Since we are primates we can assume we evolved as social creatures. The culmination of that social evolution is what has made us what we are. We are no longer simply a product of the natural environment and we are more a product of our societies than anything else.