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I did, try reading the posts. Most idiotic introduction ever. You don't decide shit for anybody else, you are in no position to dictate what patriotism means.I quoted your post, Bozo.Look here Weasel, You are misrepresenting me with your equine excrement. Where did I say that I want to unilaterally dictate what needs changing? There are many things that we, as a nation can agree on. Anyone who thinks that the country is perfect, that there is no room for improvement is a special kind of idiot who has his head where the sun don't shine. Would that be you?You're an idiot. You think you are in a position to dictate what needs changing and define patriotism based on it. That's a special kind of stupid and we had enough retards before you showed up.Ooops. My bad. OK, you say patriots do not endeavor to transform their countries. I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming. Stagnation is not patriotism by any means.Not at all. I also said you were not a patriot.
Reread that, please. I said you do want to transform this country.
"I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming."
Who decides what needs changing, what if someone disagrees with you? You decide and label that person a patriot. Like I said, a special kind of stupid, the excrement is all yours.
This is a republic, if you can't figure out how things are supposed to change or stay the same that's your problem.
What are you blathering about, dude? Do you even know? I am well aware of the fact that this is a constitutional republic and how things work. Read my original post again and try to articulate exactly what part of it you don't get or don't understand.
I did, try reading the posts. Most idiotic introduction ever. You don't decide shit for anybody else, you are in no position to dictate what patriotism means.I quoted your post, Bozo.Look here Weasel, You are misrepresenting me with your equine excrement. Where did I say that I want to unilaterally dictate what needs changing? There are many things that we, as a nation can agree on. Anyone who thinks that the country is perfect, that there is no room for improvement is a special kind of idiot who has his head where the sun don't shine. Would that be you?You're an idiot. You think you are in a position to dictate what needs changing and define patriotism based on it. That's a special kind of stupid and we had enough retards before you showed up.Ooops. My bad. OK, you say patriots do not endeavor to transform their countries. I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming. Stagnation is not patriotism by any means.
"I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming."
Who decides what needs changing, what if someone disagrees with you? You decide and label that person a patriot. Like I said, a special kind of stupid, the excrement is all yours.
This is a republic, if you can't figure out how things are supposed to change or stay the same that's your problem.
What are you blathering about, dude? Do you even know? I am well aware of the fact that this is a constitutional republic and how things work. Read my original post again and try to articulate exactly what part of it you don't get or don't understand.
Since I haven't that means you are full of shit. As usual.I've read your postings, neither are you.I did, try reading the posts. Most idiotic introduction ever. You don't decide shit for anybody else, you are in no position to dictate what patriotism means.I quoted your post, Bozo.Look here Weasel, You are misrepresenting me with your equine excrement. Where did I say that I want to unilaterally dictate what needs changing? There are many things that we, as a nation can agree on. Anyone who thinks that the country is perfect, that there is no room for improvement is a special kind of idiot who has his head where the sun don't shine. Would that be you?You're an idiot. You think you are in a position to dictate what needs changing and define patriotism based on it. That's a special kind of stupid and we had enough retards before you showed up.
"I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming."
Who decides what needs changing, what if someone disagrees with you? You decide and label that person a patriot. Like I said, a special kind of stupid, the excrement is all yours.
This is a republic, if you can't figure out how things are supposed to change or stay the same that's your problem.
What are you blathering about, dude? Do you even know? I am well aware of the fact that this is a constitutional republic and how things work. Read my original post again and try to articulate exactly what part of it you don't get or don't understand.
Since I haven't that means you are full of shit. As usual.I've read your postings, neither are you.I did, try reading the posts. Most idiotic introduction ever. You don't decide shit for anybody else, you are in no position to dictate what patriotism means.I quoted your post, Bozo.Look here Weasel, You are misrepresenting me with your equine excrement. Where did I say that I want to unilaterally dictate what needs changing? There are many things that we, as a nation can agree on. Anyone who thinks that the country is perfect, that there is no room for improvement is a special kind of idiot who has his head where the sun don't shine. Would that be you?
"I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming."
Who decides what needs changing, what if someone disagrees with you? You decide and label that person a patriot. Like I said, a special kind of stupid, the excrement is all yours.
This is a republic, if you can't figure out how things are supposed to change or stay the same that's your problem.
What are you blathering about, dude? Do you even know? I am well aware of the fact that this is a constitutional republic and how things work. Read my original post again and try to articulate exactly what part of it you don't get or don't understand.
Are you menstruating or something?Good, because you're in no position to dictate what patriotism means.Since I haven't that means you are full of shit. As usual.I've read your postings, neither are you.I did, try reading the posts. Most idiotic introduction ever. You don't decide shit for anybody else, you are in no position to dictate what patriotism means.I quoted your post, Bozo.
"I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming."
Who decides what needs changing, what if someone disagrees with you? You decide and label that person a patriot. Like I said, a special kind of stupid, the excrement is all yours.
This is a republic, if you can't figure out how things are supposed to change or stay the same that's your problem.
What are you blathering about, dude? Do you even know? I am well aware of the fact that this is a constitutional republic and how things work. Read my original post again and try to articulate exactly what part of it you don't get or don't understand.
I did, try reading the posts. Most idiotic introduction ever. You don't decide shit for anybody else, you are in no position to dictate what patriotism means.I quoted your post, Bozo.Look here Weasel, You are misrepresenting me with your equine excrement. Where did I say that I want to unilaterally dictate what needs changing? There are many things that we, as a nation can agree on. Anyone who thinks that the country is perfect, that there is no room for improvement is a special kind of idiot who has his head where the sun don't shine. Would that be you?You're an idiot. You think you are in a position to dictate what needs changing and define patriotism based on it. That's a special kind of stupid and we had enough retards before you showed up.Ooops. My bad. OK, you say patriots do not endeavor to transform their countries. I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming. Stagnation is not patriotism by any means.
"I explained why I believe that is exactly what patriots do when their country needs transforming."
Who decides what needs changing, what if someone disagrees with you? You decide and label that person a patriot. Like I said, a special kind of stupid, the excrement is all yours.
This is a republic, if you can't figure out how things are supposed to change or stay the same that's your problem.
What are you blathering about, dude? Do you even know? I am well aware of the fact that this is a constitutional republic and how things work. Read my original post again and try to articulate exactly what part of it you don't get or don't understand.
It's very telling that you can't seem to deal with anyone who you are at odds with without immediately resorting to snide and derogatory comments and name calling. It speaks to your level of intellectual and emotion functioning, or more accurately, your level of disfunctionAre you menstruating or something?Good, because you're in no position to dictate what patriotism means.Since I haven't that means you are full of shit. As usual.I've read your postings, neither are you.I did, try reading the posts. Most idiotic introduction ever. You don't decide shit for anybody else, you are in no position to dictate what patriotism means.What are you blathering about, dude? Do you even know? I am well aware of the fact that this is a constitutional republic and how things work. Read my original post again and try to articulate exactly what part of it you don't get or don't understand.
Progressives patriot is like Peaceful Jihadists.
Good day ladies and gentlemen. I chose my name, the Progressive Patriot because to many conservatives seem to believe that they, and only they have the right to the mantle of “patriot.” In fact I’ve been told that it is an oxymoron.
I, however, I believe that progressives are the true patriots because of the fact that we have a vision of this country being truly great in all ways for all of our people I want America to be respected in the world as a leader in science, diplomacy, education, environmental protection and the evolving standards of human rights. I this to be a great and just country for all people, Not just the rich, not just the native born and white people, not just for heterosexuals, not just for Christians, and not just for males. FOR ALL PEOPLE. Patriotism is progress and progress is patriotism
At the time of the founding of our nation, at the time of the American Revolution, the rebels were known as the patriots. Those patriots were not content with the status quo. They wanted to move ahead, they sought to build a nation based on the ideal of freedom and democracy. Yes, they sought to throw off the yoke of an oppressive government , and yes, conservatives today-those who call themselves “patriots”-also seek to limit the influence of what they see as an oppressive government.
However, I will submit to you that today’s source of oppression is perpetrated, not by government per se, but by those forces within government as well as outside of government who seek to thwart progress, and worse, undue much of what has been accomplished in areas such as labor, civil rights, education, science and the environment. Patriotism is progress. Progress is patriotism.
Well, you can't be both.
You are either a Communist OR a Patriot.
Care to explain that??
A patriot is one who supports and defends the Constitution of the United States.
A "progressive" AK Communist, seeks to eradicate the Constitution, starting with the bill of rights, and establish a totalitarian kleptocracy to make a "fair" system where all peasants have equal poverty.
You can be one or the other - no both. As has been pointed out by others to you, it is an oxymoron.
This is a pretty lively introduction thread....
This is a pretty lively introduction thread....
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I think the newbie needs a clown face.
Can you help him with that Stat?
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Care to explain that??
A patriot is one who supports and defends the Constitution of the United States.
A "progressive" AK Communist, seeks to eradicate the Constitution, starting with the bill of rights, and establish a totalitarian kleptocracy to make a "fair" system where all peasants have equal poverty.
You can be one or the other - no both. As has been pointed out by others to you, it is an oxymoron.
You can be a Constitutionalist first and a Communist second.
You can be a Constitutioanlist first and a Progressive second.
This is like saying you can be a Christian first, and a Catholic or Baptist second.
or a Christian first and a Unitarian second, or even a Buddhist or Muslim.
The Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans and Unitarians may not agree with each other
over the Trinity, Baptism or Communion, etc.
But if they put the central faith first, and their individual rituals and practices second,
then their individual labels and denominational difference do not have to stand in the way
of being united in Christ on the central policies that count so they can operate in unison.
Uncensored2008 what I might say
is you cannot say you defend equal Constitutional rights for all people including free exercise of
BELIEF, "due process of the law" (ie innocence until proven guilty)
and equal protection of the laws from discrimination by CREED,
but then go around and violate DUE PROCESS by condemning, punishing and excluding people
in advance, based on a label, before proving what that person did wrong.
To do so would be invoking such "due process" for oneself, and equal protection of one's own beliefs and creed, while seeking to demolish the same rights of someone else based on your opinion of their beliefs. How does YOUR opinion of someone's label make THEM guilty of what YOU associate with that group? If our govt operated that way, and found us "guilty by association" we'd yell and scream. So why are we content to do this to our neighbor, when we would not want to be judged by the OPINION of someone else.
We have too much of this destructive counterproductive behavior going on in the name of politics. If we are going to enforce Constitutional laws,
and hold Govt accountable for "due process and equal protections"
shouldn't we start with ourselves and make sure we respect the same standard principles.
see also ethics-commission.net
Thank YOUCare to explain that??
A patriot is one who supports and defends the Constitution of the United States.
A "progressive" AK Communist, seeks to eradicate the Constitution, starting with the bill of rights, and establish a totalitarian kleptocracy to make a "fair" system where all peasants have equal poverty.
You can be one or the other - no both. As has been pointed out by others to you, it is an oxymoron.
You can be a Constitutionalist first and a Communist second.
You can be a Constitutioanlist first and a Progressive second.
This is like saying you can be a Christian first, and a Catholic or Baptist second.
or a Christian first and a Unitarian second, or even a Buddhist or Muslim.
The Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans and Unitarians may not agree with each other
over the Trinity, Baptism or Communion, etc.
But if they put the central faith first, and their individual rituals and practices second,
then their individual labels and denominational difference do not have to stand in the way
of being united in Christ on the central policies that count so they can operate in unison.
Uncensored2008 what I might say
is you cannot say you defend equal Constitutional rights for all people including free exercise of
BELIEF, "due process of the law" (ie innocence until proven guilty)
and equal protection of the laws from discrimination by CREED,
but then go around and violate DUE PROCESS by condemning, punishing and excluding people
in advance, based on a label, before proving what that person did wrong.
To do so would be invoking such "due process" for oneself, and equal protection of one's own beliefs and creed, while seeking to demolish the same rights of someone else based on your opinion of their beliefs. How does YOUR opinion of someone's label make THEM guilty of what YOU associate with that group? If our govt operated that way, and found us "guilty by association" we'd yell and scream. So why are we content to do this to our neighbor, when we would not want to be judged by the OPINION of someone else.
We have too much of this destructive counterproductive behavior going on in the name of politics. If we are going to enforce Constitutional laws,
and hold Govt accountable for "due process and equal protections"
shouldn't we start with ourselves and make sure we respect the same standard principles.
see also ethics-commission.net
I must say , you have added another, much needed intellectual level to this board! I'm just now getting around to reading and absorbing your excellent writing. Many people here, including myself can learn something from you. Unfortunately, certain people who need to learn the most, wont read it, will dismiss it as nonsense, or simply wont understand it. Thank you for being here.!
You can be a Constitutionalist first and a Communist second.
You can be a Constitutioanlist first and a Progressive second.
This is like saying you can be a Christian first, and a Catholic or Baptist second.
or a Christian first and a Unitarian second, or even a Buddhist or Muslim.
The Catholics, Baptists, Lutherans and Unitarians may not agree with each other
over the Trinity, Baptism or Communion, etc.
But if they put the central faith first, and their individual rituals and practices second,
then their individual labels and denominational difference do not have to stand in the way
of being united in Christ on the central policies that count so they can operate in unison.
Uncensored2008 what I might say
is you cannot say you defend equal Constitutional rights for all people including free exercise of
BELIEF, "due process of the law" (ie innocence until proven guilty)
and equal protection of the laws from discrimination by CREED,
but then go around and violate DUE PROCESS by condemning, punishing and excluding people
in advance, based on a label, before proving what that person did wrong.
To do so would be invoking such "due process" for oneself, and equal protection of one's own beliefs and creed, while seeking to demolish the same rights of someone else based on your opinion of their beliefs. How does YOUR opinion of someone's label make THEM guilty of what YOU associate with that group? If our govt operated that way, and found us "guilty by association" we'd yell and scream. So why are we content to do this to our neighbor, when we would not want to be judged by the OPINION of someone else.
We have too much of this destructive counterproductive behavior going on in the name of politics. If we are going to enforce Constitutional laws,
and hold Govt accountable for "due process and equal protections"
shouldn't we start with ourselves and make sure we respect the same standard principles.
see also ethics-commission.net