Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery

[rightwinger]

Why would anyone want to remove a monument to reconciliation? People that would oppose reconciliation are people that just are filled with hate

A monument honoring the Confederacy
An Evil Empire

What would you call a country today that was 40 percent slave?

 

[1srelluc]

A monument honoring the Confederacy
An Evil Empire

Bugger-off.....My ancestors were not "evil". The militia unit they belonged to was not activated till Virginia was invaded.

 

[rightwinger]

Bugger-off.....My ancestors were not "evil". The militia unit they belonged to was not activated till Virginia was invaded.

Your ancestors fought for slavery
An evil institution
Not something to brag about

My ancestors fought for the Union

 

[struth]

A monument honoring the Confederacy
An Evil Empire

What would you call a country today that was 40 percent slave?

Um the monument is literally honoring reconciliation. It’s called the Reconcilation Monument…but thanks for highlighting the GOP was wrong to think we could do that with the demklan party of slavery

 

[1srelluc]

Your ancestors fought for slavery
An evil institution
Not something to brag about

My ancestors fought for the Union

They sure planted enough of the Yankee invaders in Virginia soil. Damn shame they missed your family tree.

Talk about evil, after the war the Yankees were supposed to pay $5.00 per head for dead Yankee bodies to be reburied but the occupation troops stole and drank/whored away the money.

After that went on for a while, Yankees when found, were just either plowed under for fertilizer or their bones piled against the nearest rock wall with the rest of the debris of battle.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

More Lost Cause rhetoric

Yes, they did care
They cared that the institution of slavery continued
They cared that slaves were not running free raping white women
They cared that negroes would always be socially inferior
They were outraged that negroes were fighting against them

I have been to most of the major Civil War Battlefields and many minor ones

You don't know the difference in rhetoric and facts. That is your problem. My family being from KY fought on both sides, but never owned slaves because slavery was not as common in KY when compared to the deep south.

 

[rightwinger]

Um the monument is literally honoring reconciliation. It’s called the Reconcilation Monument…but thanks for highlighting the GOP was wrong to think we could do that with the demklan party of slavery

More revisionist history

The inclusion of the "faithful black servants" was purposeful.<a href="Confederate Memorial (Arlington National Cemetery) - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>137<span>]</span></a> Sculptor Moses Ezekiel included them because he wanted to undermine what he called the "lies" told about the South and slavery in Harriet Beecher Stowe's 1852 novel Uncle Tom's Cabin and wished to rewrite history "correctly" (his word) to depict black slaves' support for the Confederate cause.<a href="Confederate Memorial (Arlington National Cemetery) - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>14</a>

 

[Nostra]

A few decades? It took 100 years to pass the civil rights act. Arguably civil rights were worse in 1912 than they were in the immediate post-war period.

This statue commemorates white supremacy. It labels the people who fought for it as heroes. Their cause was just. You keep ignoring what it actually says. You ignore reality.

And even then Republicans had to overcome the racist Dimwingers who were filibustering the CRA.

 

[martybegan]

The 2nd Klan was centered in Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois in response to black migration to factories in the north.

That was part of it. There was a strong anti-immigrant part as well, mostly focused on the southern european and slavic immigrants.

 

[Correll]

Your ancestors fought for slavery
An evil institution
Not something to brag about

My ancestors fought for the Union

You lost that exchange. Your refusal to admit is, is just you being a liar.

 

[rightwinger]

You lost that exchange. Your refusal to admit is, is just you being a liar.

You mean the exchange where I declared slavery to be evil?

 

[Correll]

You mean the exchange where I declared slavery to be evil?

Buddy, shit talk isn't going to save you. You lose. You saids stupid shit in defense of hate, and you lost.

 

[rightwinger]

Buddy, shit talk isn't going to save you. You lose. You saids stupid shit in defense of hate, and you lost.

How can someone condemning slavery lose?
Confederacy was an Evil Empire

Why the rest of the world refused to support it

 

[Correll]

How can someone condemning slavery lose?

They way you are. By trying to make everything about that, when it has been a moot point for over 150 years.

Especially by smearing good people today, with... an absolutely retarded false accusation.

You are scum of the earth, and you hare losing.


MAGA.

 

[martybegan]

How can someone condemning slavery lose?
Confederacy was an Evil Empire

Why the rest of the world refused to support it

Actually at that point slavery was in the middle of being made illegal, the Condeferacy wasn't the last holdout by a long shot, they were just the only one to fight over it.

Hell, the Russians didn't get rid of Serfdom totally until the late 1800's.

 

[rightwinger]

They way you are. By trying to make everything about that, when it has been a moot point for over 150 years.

Especially by smearing good people today, with... an absolutely retarded false accusation.

You are scum of the earth, and you hare losing.


MAGA.

Our history is not moot
The fact that the Confederacy was formed to protect slavery is not moot

Good people today do not defend the evil confederacy

They do not celebrate Confederate heroes by naming military bases for them
They do not put up monuments honoring the confederacy
They do not proudly wave the Confederate Flag

 

[Correll]

Our history is not moot
The fact that the Confederacy was formed to protect slavery is not moot

Good people today do not defend the evil confederacy

They do not celebrate Confederate heroes by naming military bases for them
They do not put up monuments honoring the confederacy
They do not proudly wave the Confederate Flag

The condefedate soldiers were mostly poor men fighting to protect their homes and families from an invading army.

Putting up monuments to honor that is something that any good person could and would respect.


I undertand that you don't undertand that.


You are a vile and disgusting person.

 

[rightwinger]

Actually at that point slavery was in the middle of being made illegal, the Condeferacy wasn't the last holdout by a long shot, they were just the only one to fight over it.

Why the Confederacy was formed
They saw the rest of the world abandoning slavery
They saw new states opposing slavery
They saw a rising abolitionist tide.

When Lincoln was elected, they rushed to create a country that was 40 percent enslaved

 

[rightwinger]

The condefedate soldiers were mostly poor men fighting to protect their homes and families from an invading army.

More Lost Cause propaganda
The war was about SLAVERY

There were no abolitionists in the Confederate Army
Those poor men rushed home after the war to create a Jim Crow South

 

[Correll]

Why the Confederacy was formed
They saw the rest of the world abandoning slavery
They saw new states opposing slavery
They saw a rising abolitionist tide.

When Lincoln was elected, they rushed to create a country that was 40 percent enslaved

That's ancient history.

You are refusing to face the reality that the generation that fought and defeated the confederacy, forgave and welcome back into the union, their former enemies.


You are just being an asshole.