Zone1 Hebrews 1:8 says Jesus is God

[Cougarbear]

The Father himself is speaking in Hebrews 1 and says in verse 8 that Jesus, His Son, is to be called God as well. Now, Colossians 2:9 makes sense. "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Verse 8 then says not to follow the philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men. This means to only follow prophets and apostles who teach through the spirit of God and not the secular non-prophets of the Unitarians like Jehovah Witnesses and their non-prophet so called scholars.

 

[shockedcanadian]

In my opinion, Jewish was a great Rabbi.

 

[Cougarbear]

In my opinion, Jewish was a great Rabbi.

Who is Jewish?

 

[jackflash]

The Father himself is speaking in Hebrews 1 and says in verse 8 that Jesus, His Son, is to be called God as well. Now, Colossians 2:9 makes sense. "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Verse 8 then says not to follow the philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men. This means to only follow prophets and apostles who teach through the spirit of God and not the secular non-prophets of the Unitarians like Jehovah Witnesses and their non-prophet so called scholars.

I to had real problems with the Deity issue as many folks do. The problem for mankind is the Deity cannot be explained by man with theoretical physics/math, which leaves faith as the only other option available to humanity to explain the Deity. Since 'faith' does not consist of anything physical/tangible let alone valuable such as gold, platinum, food etc. the term 'faith' is then relegated to just a concept or @ best an abstract ideology to many folks. I'd say many if not most of us accept our Deity on faith alone only after we have been driven to our knees from anything & everything from losing loved ones to poverty & every fiasco that can happen in between. Get hit hard enough & even the hardest of heads will yield to the inevitable.

Yeah, the JW's have the same problem the statist left has & that's their hive mentality. That strength in numbers group/herd mentality is a sure fire way to lose contact with our Maker, like nothing quite like putting the congregation ahead of Jesus the created sacrificial 'a-n-g-e-l'!!! The unitarians are pushing for the "One World Without Borders" religion & we know where that ends up. I have family down around the general area of Twin Falls Idaho that got roped into the mormon cult. It's all heading into what I call the "comedy of errors" era, as humanity tries to save itself from humanity(cat chasing it's tail).

 

[shockedcanadian]

Who is Jewish?

I meant to say Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi, broke off mid sentence. My brain isnt what it used.to be.and I am not as strict with my.grammar check etc

 

[irosie91]

I meant to say Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi, broke off mid sentence. My brain isnt what it used.to be.and I am not as strict with my.grammar check etc

Constantine wrecked his REP. by ROMANIZING him

 

[Z99]

The Father himself is speaking in Hebrews 1 and says in verse 8 that Jesus, His Son, is to be called God as well. Now, Colossians 2:9 makes sense. "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Verse 8 then says not to follow the philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men. This means to only follow prophets and apostles who teach through the spirit of God and not the secular non-prophets of the Unitarians like Jehovah Witnesses and their non-prophet so called scholars.

The dynamic of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is something that we cannot know and understand until we're in Heaven.

With that said, my guess is that God is Jesus but Jesus isn't God. Perhaps Jesus and the Holy Spirit are essentially avatars of God on Earth. We should remember that Jesus repeatedly deferred to the Father. In other words, God ultimately wants us to be one with him, not his avatar, so to speak.

It's fun to speculate but it's otherwise irrelevant insofar as our purpose here, which is to love God and one another.

 

[Cougarbear]

I to had real problems with the Deity issue as many folks do. The problem for mankind is the Deity cannot be explained by man with theoretical physics/math, which leaves faith as the only other option available to humanity to explain the Deity. Since 'faith' does not consist of anything physical/tangible let alone valuable such as gold, platinum, food etc. the term 'faith' is then relegated to just a concept or @ best an abstract ideology to many folks. I'd say many if not most of us accept our Deity on faith alone only after we have been driven to our knees from anything & everything from losing loved ones to poverty & every fiasco that can happen in between. Get hit hard enough & even the hardest of heads will yield to the inevitable.

Yeah, the JW's have the same problem the statist left has & that's their hive mentality. That strength in numbers group/herd mentality is a sure fire way to lose contact with our Maker, like nothing quite like putting the congregation ahead of Jesus the created sacrificial 'a-n-g-e-l'!!! The unitarians are pushing for the "One World Without Borders" religion & we know where that ends up. I have family down around the general area of Twin Falls Idaho that got roped into the mormon cult. It's all heading into what I call the "comedy of errors" era, as humanity tries to save itself from humanity(cat chasing it's tail).

So, where do you lie with Deity? Are you a believer in God? Which God? The God of Israel or the god of gold? See, the God of math, physical, tangible is the God of Israel. He has given you all of that to take care of the earth and to multiply and replenish the earth. He does it without constant interference like the great flood of Noah or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Would you rather God control us without free moral agency or will? Not allow us to make mistakes and grow from our mistakes, learn from our mistakes? Would you want God to do everything for you so you can be safe? The only one chasing their tail is you and your atheist, Satanists and agnostics.

The fact is, physics and math do prove their is a God of Israel. If you believe that at some point mankind will figure out how to create or organize something from nothing to create living and breathing life on earth, then you will actually be proving those Mormon cultists are true and right about "Man is as God once was and that as God is now, man may become!" That we are gods in embryo placed in physical bodies with our spirits from heaven to continue on the path to exaltation with our own universes with children like yourself who can't get out of their own way to develop faith and belief in you, god. So, I wouldn't be name calling Mormons like me. We are the only ones that believe we will come to the knowledge of creation of everything.

 

[Woodznutz]

I meant to say Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi, broke off mid sentence. My brain isnt what it used.to be.and I am not as strict with my.grammar check etc

Forty lashes with a wet noodle.

 

[luiza]

The Father himself is speaking in Hebrews 1 and says in verse 8 that Jesus, His Son, is to be called God as well. Now, Colossians 2:9 makes sense. "For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." Verse 8 then says not to follow the philosophy and vain deceit after the traditions of men. This means to only follow prophets and apostles who teach through the spirit of God and not the secular non-prophets of the Unitarians like Jehovah Witnesses and their non-prophet so called scholars.

Keep us in touch with further News releases from above , however amusing .

Do they also do long term weather forecasts ?.

Who exactly was around when Goddy Boy made those astonishing claims ?
Bet it was that naughty Prince of Light , lucifer , who was playing games again .

 

[Cougarbear]

I meant to say Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi, broke off mid sentence. My brain isnt what it used.to be.and I am not as strict with my.grammar check etc

He was born of Mary, who was of Judah or Jewish. He was a teacher as well. So yes, Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. But, he is also the God of Israel, Jehovah. So, the OT and NT of the Bible are the stick (writings or book) of Judah. The stick of Joseph is The Book of Mormon. Together, they are one in our hands. Ezekiel 37:15-17,20, "The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. ...And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes."

 

[Woodznutz]

Since 'faith' does not consist of anything physical/tangible let alone valuable such as gold, platinum, food etc. the term 'faith' is then relegated to just a concept or @ best an abstract ideology to many folks.

I dunno. The very creation is pretty tangible.

Romans 1:20
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

Consider the genius of this creation.

 

[irosie91]

He was born of Mary, who was of Judah or Jewish. He was a teacher as well. So yes, Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. But, he is also the God of Israel, Jehovah. So, the OT and NT of the Bible are the stick (writings or book) of Judah. The stick of Joseph is The Book of Mormon. Together, they are one in our hands. Ezekiel 37:15-17,20, "The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying, Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions: And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. ...And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes."

to which "joseph" do you refer? what does "stick" mean?

 

[Cougarbear]

The dynamic of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is something that we cannot know and understand until we're in Heaven.

With that said, my guess is that God is Jesus but Jesus isn't God. Perhaps Jesus and the Holy Spirit are essentially avatars of God on Earth. We should remember that Jesus repeatedly deferred to the Father. In other words, God ultimately wants us to be one with him, not his avatar, so to speak.

It's fun to speculate but it's otherwise irrelevant insofar as our purpose here, which is to love God and one another.

God is Jesus but Jesus isn't God? Illogical. He either is God or he isn't. So, as Hebrews 1:8 states clearly, God the Father said His Son is also God or a God. Part of the Godhead mentioned in Colossians 2:9. The Holy Ghost is the third member of the Godhead. All three are titled God. God is not a name. It's a title for authority and power over the universe.

You are correct that Jesus and the Holy Ghost work in our behalf on earth. Jesus is our mediator between us and the Father God. The Holy Ghost is our technology to communicate with the Father and Son and for them to communicate back to us. The Holy Ghost is in all things or attached to all things so that everyone can communicate with the Father and Son even at the same time.

Yes, we are to love the Lord thy God with all our hearts and minds and love our neighbors as our selves. But, we are also challenged to come to know the God of the universe too. By doing so, we can better communicate and know what he wants of us individually too. And, how to help us as well.

 

[luiza]

He was born of Mary,

Is that the same Mary who had an affair outside of marriage with a tall stranger wearing clip-on wings?

Makes the son illegitimate .


BASTARD -- Offspring born of unmarried parents .

 

[Woodznutz]

Is that the same Mary who had an affair outside of marriage with a tall stranger wearing clip-on wings?

Makes the son illegitimate .

It makes him the son of God.

 

[luiza]

It makes him the son of God.

Ha Ha etc

But since when was Nephilim Gabriel , Goddy Boy ?
No, it just makes Gabriel a Dirty old Angel and Joseph a Cuckold .
Bit of a nasty back - story this Cult Christianity .

 

[Woodznutz]

Ha Ha etc

But since when was Nephilim Gabriel , Goddy Boy ?
No, it just makes Gabriel a Dirty old Angel and Joseph a Cuckold .
Bit of a nasty back - story this Cult Christianity .

Gabriel isn't the Holy Spirit.

 

[Cougarbear]

Is that the same Mary who had an affair outside of marriage with a tall stranger wearing clip-on wings?

Makes the son illegitimate .


BASTARD -- Offspring born of unmarried parents .

You are using human made up words to describe the event of the birth of Jesus Christ to a virgin. There was no sex involved. And, she became pregnant with Jesus before she married Joseph. You cannot judge God.

 

[jackflash]

So, where do you lie with Deity? Are you a believer in God? Which God? The God of Israel or the god of gold? See, the God of math, physical, tangible is the God of Israel. He has given you all of that to take care of the earth and to multiply and replenish the earth. He does it without constant interference like the great flood of Noah or the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Would you rather God control us without free moral agency or will? Not allow us to make mistakes and grow from our mistakes, learn from our mistakes? Would you want God to do everything for you so you can be safe? The only one chasing their tail is you and your atheist, Satanists and agnostics.

The fact is, physics and math do prove their is a God of Israel. If you believe that at some point mankind will figure out how to create or organize something from nothing to create living and breathing life on earth, then you will actually be proving those Mormon cultists are true and right about "Man is as God once was and that as God is now, man may become!" That we are gods in embryo placed in physical bodies with our spirits from heaven to continue on the path to exaltation with our own universes with children like yourself who can't get out of their own way to develop faith and belief in you, god. So, I wouldn't be name calling Mormons like me. We are the only ones that believe we will come to the knowledge of creation of everything.

There is only one Deity that I know of Father, Son & Holy Ghost, do U know of another deity? Yes I am a believer in our Maker. Though both the Father & Son are referred to by several names/titles, I most often refer to the Father as the "Ancient Of Days" & the Son as Messiah or Jesus Christ. As far as our Holy Ghost, that is the only title/name that I know of to reference for our Holy Ghost. Since I cannot explain 1 as 3 or 3 as 1, I often use the title of "Maker" which is my way of acknowledging all three facets of the trinity as "one" or as the ancient Hebrews said "our God is One".