Heating and AC , You're screwed

[Iceweasel]

**** liberals, I purchased a government regulated low flow shower head at Home Depot and drilled a big ass hole in the low flow restrictor with my cordless drill, eat it libs!

The Russians drilled mine out.

How dare you allow Russia to interfere with our showerheads, did they also interfere with your sink and soap dispenser? I smell a Russian conspiracy here.

They hacked my gutters yesterday and I had to go out in the rain and clean them. The assholes planted a large evergreen tree behind my house knowing full well what was going to go down.

 

[BluesLegend]

Hundreds of thousands of pages of new government regulations just during the Obama administration. Its shocking humans managed to survive before we had out of control government regulations to control even the amount of water we can use to flush a turd down a toilet. /SARCASM

 

[bripat9643]

I didn't even realize...

I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.

One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.

The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.

Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.





By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug

Have faith. Trump hopes to abolish the EPA and a/c manufactures and other industries can do anything they want to the environment and long after Trump is gone we will be paying the price.

Only a moron wouldn't object to having the cost of his air conditioning increased by thousands of dollars. If environmental wackos like you get their way, it will soon be impossible for anyone but the rich to afford it. Of course, that's exactly what the environmental Nazis want.

 

[mamooth]

No it wasn't?????

Nope. The scientific consensus in the 1970s was warming. You don't get to create your own reality just because the real reality contradicts you.

You know my education better than I do? What a 'tard!

Now you seem to be claiming that the Weekly Reader you read in the 4rth grade was the scientific consensus.

Denying is what a healthy mind does when confronted with wild ass theories and attempts to intimidate. You have no facts, just opinions that feed off the Warmer industry.

That's right, all that climate data is the work of the VastSecretGlobalSocialistPlot, just as those darn efficiency standard are.

Useful, the way your GrandUnifiedSocialistPlot conspiracy theory covers multiple topics.

 

[Iceweasel]

No it wasn't?????

Nope. The scientific consensus in the 1970s was warming. You don't get to create your own reality just because the real reality contradicts you.

You know my education better than I do? What a 'tard!

Now you seem to be claiming that the Weekly Reader you read in the 4rth grade was the scientific consensus.

Denying is what a healthy mind does when confronted with wild ass theories and attempts to intimidate. You have no facts, just opinions that feed off the Warmer industry.

That's right, all that climate data is the work of the VastSecretGlobalSocialistPlot, just as those darn efficiency standard are.

Useful, the way your GrandUnifiedSocialistPlot conspiracy theory covers multiple topics.

No, I don't let assholes tell me what I was taught. I have to ram that right back down your throat. I've talked to many that say the exact same thing. You're full of shit and you sound like someone that is nursing off of the Warmer industry titty. Not too bright, highly dishonest and very motivated to proselytize the faith. Now, back to the real reality...

Popular Technology.net: 1970s Global Cooling Alarmism
1970 - Colder Winters Held Dawn of New Ice Age - Scientists See Ice Age In the Future (The Washington Post, January 11, 1970)
1970 - Is Mankind Manufacturing a New Ice Age for Itself? (L.A. Times, January 15, 1970)
1970 - New Ice Age May Descend On Man (Sumter Daily Item, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Prospect A Chilling One (The Argus-Press, January 26, 1970)
1970 - Pollution's 2-way 'Freeze' On Society (Middlesboro Daily News, January 28, 1970)
1970 - Cold Facts About Pollution (The Southeast Missourian, January 29, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Could Cause Ice Age, Agency Reports (St. Petersburg Times, March 4, 1970)
1970 - Scientist predicts a new ice age by 21st century (The Boston Globe, April 16, 1970)
1970 - Pollution Called Ice Age Threat (St. Petersburg Times, June 26, 1970)
1970 - U.S. and Soviet Press Studies of a Colder Arctic (The New York Times, July 18, 1970)
1970 - Dirt Will Bring New Ice Age (The Sydney Morning Herald, October 19, 1970)
1971 - Ice Age Refugee Dies Underground (Montreal Gazette, Febuary 17, 1971)
1971 - Pollution Might Lead To Another Ice Age (The Schenectady Gazette, March 22, 1971)
1971 - Pollution May Bring Ice Age - Scientist Rites Risk (The Windsor Star, March 23, 1971)
1971 - U.S. Scientist Sees New Ice Age Coming (The Washington Post, July 9, 1971)
1971 - Ice Age Around the Corner (Chicago Tribune, July 10, 1971)
1971 - Danger: Ice age may lurk in dusty skies (The Christian Science Monitor, July 12, 1971)
1971 - New Ice Age Coming - It's Already Getting Colder (L.A. Times, October 24, 1971)
1971 - Another Ice Age? Pollution Blocking Sunlight (The Day, November 1, 1971)
1971 - Air Pollution Could Bring An Ice Age (Harlan Daily Enterprise, November 4, 1971)
1972 - Air pollution may cause ice age (Free-Lance Star, February 3, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Says New ice Age Coming (The Ledger, February 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Cometh For Dicey Times (The Sun, May 29, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Coming (Deseret News, September 8, 1972)
1972 - There's a new Ice Age coming! (The Windsor Star, September 9, 1972)
1972 - Scientist predicts new ice age (Free-Lance Star, September 11, 1972)
1972 - British Expert on Climate Change Says New Ice Age Creeping Over Northern Hemisphere (Lewiston Evening Journal, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Climate Seen Cooling For Return Of Ice Age (The Portsmouth Times, ‎September 11, 1972‎)
1972 - New Ice Age Slipping Over North (The Press-Courier, September 11, 1972)
1972 - Beginning of new ice age (The Canberra Times, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Begins A New Assault In North (The Age, September 12, 1972)
1972 - Weather To Get Colder (Montreal Gazette, ‎September 12, 1972‎)
1972 - British climate expert predicts new Ice Age (The Christian Science Monitor, September 23, 1972)
1972 - Scientist Sees Chilling Signs of New Ice Age (L.A. Times, September 24, 1972)
1972 - Science: Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, November 13, 1972)
1972 - Geologist at Case Traces Long Winters - Sees Ice Age in 20 Years (Youngstown Vindicator, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age On Its Way, Scientist Says (Toledo Blade, December 13, 1972)
1972 - Ice Age Predicted In About 200 Years (The Portsmouth Times, December 14, 1972)
1973 - New Ice Age coming? (Popular Science, January 1973)
1973 - The Ice Age Cometh (The Saturday Review, March 24, 1973)
1973 - Believe new ice age is coming (The Bryan Times, March 31, 1973)
1973 - 'Man-made Ice Age' Worries Scientists (The Free Lance-Star, June 22, 1973)
1973 - Fear Of Man-made Ice Age (The Spartanburg Herald, June 28, 1973)
1973 - Possibility Of Ice Age Worries The Scientists (The Argus-Press, November 12, 1973)
1973 - Weather-watchers think another ice age may be on the way (The Christian Science Monitor, December 11, 1973)
1974 - Ominous Changes in the World's Weather (PDF) (Fortune Magazine, February 1974)
1974 - Atmospheric Dirt: Ice Age Coming?‎ (Pittsburgh Press, February 28, 1974)
1974 - Support for theory of a cooling world (The Canberra Times, May 16, 1974)
1974 - New evidence indicates ice age here (Eugene Register-Guard, May 29, 1974)
1974 - Another Ice Age? (Time Magazine, June 24, 1974)
1974 - 2 Scientists Think 'Little' Ice Age Near (Hartford Courant, August 11, 1974)
1974 - Climate: A Key to the World's Food Supply (NOAA, October, 1974)
1974 - Ice Age, worse food crisis seen (Chicago Tribune, October 30, 1974)
1974 - Imminent Arrival of the Ice (Radio Times, November 14, 1974)
1974 - Making a BBC Science Special [The Weather Machine] (New Scientist, November 14, 1974)
1974 - The Weather Machine (BBC, November 20, 1974)
1974 - New ice age 'could be in our lifetime' (The Canberra Times, November 22, 1974)
1974 - Believes Pollution Could Bring On Ice Age (Ludington Daily News, December 4, 1974)
1974 - Pollution Could Spur Ice Age, Nasa Says (Beaver Country Times, ‎December 4, 1974‎)
1974 - Air Pollution May Trigger Ice Age, Scientists Feel (The Telegraph, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - More Air Pollution Could Trigger Ice Age Disaster (Daily Sentinel, ‎December 5, 1974‎)
1974 - Scientists Fear Smog Could Cause Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 5, 1974)
1975 - Climate Changes Called Ominous (The New York Times, January 19, 1975)
1975 - Climate Change: Chilling Possibilities (Science News, March 1, 1975)
1975 - B-r-r-r-r: New Ice Age on way soon? (Chicago Tribune, March 2, 1975)
1975 - Cooling Trends Arouse Fear That New Ice Age Coming (Eugene Register-Guard, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Another Ice Age Due? Arctic Ice Expands In Last Decade (Youngstown Vindicator, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Headed For Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, March 2, 1975)
1975 - New Ice Age Dawning? Significant Shift In Climate Seen (Times Daily, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - There's Troublesome Weather Ahead (Tri City Herald, ‎March 2, 1975‎)
1975 - Is Earth Doomed To Live Through Another Ice Age? (The Robesonian, ‎March 3, 1975‎)
1975 - The Ice Age cometh: the system that controls our climate (Chicago Tribune, April 13, 1975)
1975 - The Cooling World (Newsweek, April 28, 1975)
1975 - Cooling trend may signal coming of another Ice Age (The Sun, May 16, 1975)
1975 - Scientists Ask Why World Climate Is Changing; Major Cooling May Be Ahead (PDF) (The New York Times, May 21, 1975)
1975 - The Armadillos Are Heading South; Ice Age Coming? Chilling Thought for Humanity. (Chicago Tribune, June 2, 1975)
1975 - Summer of A New Ice Age (The Age, June 5, 1975)
1975 - In the Grip of a New Ice Age? (International Wildlife, July-August, 1975)
1975 - Experts ponder another ice age (The Spokesman-Review, September 8, 1975)
1975 - Oil Spill Could Cause New Ice Age (Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, December 11, 1975)
1976 - Deadly Harvest [Film] (Starring: Kim Cattrall, Clint Walker, 1976)
1976 - The Cooling: Has the Next Ice Age Already Begun? [Book] (Lowell Ponte, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted (Reading Eagle, January 22, 1976)
1976 - Ice Age Predicted In Century (Bangor Daily News, January 22, 1976)
1976 - It's Going To Get Chilly About 125 Years From Now (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, January 23, 1976)
1976 - Worrisome CIA Report; Even U.S. Farms May be Hit by Cooling Trend (U.S. News & World Report, May 31, 1976)
1977 - Blizzard - What Happens if it Doesn't Stop? [Book] (George Stone, 1977)
1977 - The Weather Conspiracy: The Coming of the New Ice Age [Book] (The Impact Team, 1977)
1977 - The Ice Age Cometh... (New York Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - The Big Freeze (Time Magazine, January 31, 1977)
1977 - Has The Ice Age Cometh Again? (Calgary Herald, February 1, 1977)
1977 - Space Mirrors Proposed To Prevent Crop Freezes (Bangor Daily News, February 7, 1977)
1977 - Sunspot lull may bring on new ice age (The Christian Science Monitor, March 30, 1977)
1977 - We Will Freeze in the Dark (Capital Cities Communications Documentary, Host: Nancy Dickerson, April 12, 1977)
1978 - Ice! [Book] (Arnold Federbush, 1978)
1978 - The New Ice Age [Book] (Henry Gilfond, 1978)
1978 - Winter May Be Colder Than In Last Ice Age (Deseret News, January 2, 1978)
1978 - Current Winters Seen Colder Than In Ice Age‎ (The Telegraph, January 3, 1978)
1978 - Winter Temperatures Colder Than Last Ice Age (Eugene Register-Guard, Eugene Register-Guard, January 3, 1978)
1978 - International Team of Specialists Finds No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend in Northern Hemisphere (The New York Times, January 5, 1978)
1978 - Little Ice Age: Severe winters and cool summers ahead (Calgary Herald, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Winters Will Get Colder, 'we're Entering Little Ice Age' (Daily Record, January 10, 1978)
1978 - Geologist Says Winters Getting Colder (Middlesboro Daily News, January 16, 1978)
1978 - It's Going To Get Colder (Boca Raton News, ‎January 17, 1978‎)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Kentucky New Era, February 12, 1978)
1978 - Another Ice Age? (Reading Eagle, ‎February 13, 1978‎)
1978 - The Coming Ice Age (In Search Of TV Show, Season 2, Episode 23, Host: Leonard Nimoy, May 1978)
1978 - An Ice Age Is Coming Weather Expert Fears (Milwaukee Sentinel, November 17, 1978)
1979 - A Choice of Catastrophes - The Disasters That Threaten Our World [Book] (Isaac Asimov, 1979)
1979 - The Sixth Winter [Book] (John R. Gribbin, 1979)
1979 - The New Ice Age Cometh (The Age, January 16, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age Building Up (Daily Record, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Large Glacial Buildup Could Mean Ice Age (Daily Chronicle, June 5, 1979)
1979 - Ice Age On Its Way (Lewiston Morning Tribune, June 7, 1979)
1979 - Get Ready to Freeze (Daily Chronicle, October 12, 1979)
1979 - New ice age almost upon us? (The Christian Science Monitor, November 14, 1979)

 

[theHawk]

I didn't even realize...

I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.

One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.

The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.

Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.





By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug

Send your prayers to God-Emperor Trump, he'll fix it.

 

[percysunshine]

I didn't even realize...

I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.

One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.

The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.

Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.





By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug

Typical crony governance. You will probably find that the few approved manufacturers of the 'new' refrigerant donated to the politicians dictating the regulations.

 

[mamooth]

No, I don't let assholes tell me what I was taught.

So what were you taught, and who taught it? I notice you're unwilling to tell us. Why do you think "what you were taught" has any bearing on the actual science?

I have to ram that right back down your throat. I've talked to many that say the exact same thing.

You've talked to other brainless rubes who confuse media spin with science, because they were bamboozled by propaganda? Of course you do. You hang out with such people.

You're full of shit and you sound like someone that is nursing off of the Warmer industry titty. Not too bright, highly dishonest and very motivated to proselytize the faith.

I am not sorry about triggering you.

Now, back to the real reality...

When I point out all you have is media spin and no science, posting a list of media and spin and no science would be confirming my point. Thank you for doing that. I'll let you know when I want any more of my points proven.

Now, here's the actual science. The 1970s scientific consensus was warming. Cursing at me won't change that.

http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/131047.pdf

 

[Iceweasel]

No, I don't let assholes tell me what I was taught.

So what were you taught, and who taught it? I notice you're unwilling to tell us. Why do you think "what you were taught" has any bearing on the actual science?

I have to ram that right back down your throat. I've talked to many that say the exact same thing.

You've talked to other brainless rubes who confuse media spin with science, because they were bamboozled by propaganda? Of course you do. You hang out with such people.

You're full of shit and you sound like someone that is nursing off of the Warmer industry titty. Not too bright, highly dishonest and very motivated to proselytize the faith.

I am not sorry about triggering you.

Now, back to the real reality...

When I point out all you have is media spin and no science, posting a list of media and spin and no science would be confirming my point. Thank you for doing that. I'll let you know when I want any more of my points proven.

Now, here's the actual science. The 1970s scientific consensus was warming. Cursing at me won't change that.

http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/131047.pdf

Who taught me? You are serious fucked in the head. You just ignored every link I posted. What a dishonest hack. You think a chart on what was published proves we weren't taught global cooling? You should read your own link before proving what a dumb asshole you truly are.

"But an even cursory review of the news
media coverage of the issue reveals that, just as
there was no consensus at the time among
scientists, so was there also no consensus among
journalists."

I hope Trump shuts down your Warmer titty and you have to find a real job.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I didn't even realize...

I guess this January the government , with their "efficiency" BS , made 14 SEER heating and air conditioning the minimum which can be sold in the U.S.

One of the manufacturers told us they are barley scraping by making 14 SEER equipment, if the government raises the minimum to 15 SEER (which I think they are already planning to do) then we're talking about high efficiency motors. In my area high efficiency motors average $1500.

The high efficiency equipment designers have a habit of placing several circuit boards into one system. circuit boards are $400 to $800. Many go out without any reason.

Like everything else, the government is going to save you 5 bucks on your monthly bill , but send the money back to the economy with high repair costs.





By-the-way, I heard something about a new refrigerant for cars, R1234 , currently selling for $1000 per jug

My friend owns a refrigeration company... he said it is about $1,300 here.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

No, I don't let assholes tell me what I was taught.

So what were you taught, and who taught it? I notice you're unwilling to tell us. Why do you think "what you were taught" has any bearing on the actual science?

I have to ram that right back down your throat. I've talked to many that say the exact same thing.

You've talked to other brainless rubes who confuse media spin with science, because they were bamboozled by propaganda? Of course you do. You hang out with such people.

You're full of shit and you sound like someone that is nursing off of the Warmer industry titty. Not too bright, highly dishonest and very motivated to proselytize the faith.

I am not sorry about triggering you.

Now, back to the real reality...

When I point out all you have is media spin and no science, posting a list of media and spin and no science would be confirming my point. Thank you for doing that. I'll let you know when I want any more of my points proven.

Now, here's the actual science. The 1970s scientific consensus was warming. Cursing at me won't change that.

http://ams.confex.com/ams/pdfpapers/131047.pdf

Is it science or consensus?

 

[mamooth]

Who taught me? You are serious fucked in the head. You just ignored every link I posted. What a dishonest hack.

So in other words, nobody taught you in the 1970s. You just made up that huge whopper.

What did happen is you recently read some propaganda from kook right blogs, and you tried to pass off a big lie about how you were "taught" in the 1970s. And now you're busted, and your tears are delightful to behold.

You think a chart on what was published proves we weren't taught global cooling?

You just admitted you weren't taught global cooling. The study conclusively proves the "science predicted cooling" crap you're peddling was a myth. Won't stop you from still trying to pass it off, of course, as your cult tells you that lying for TheCause is good and noble.

You should read your own link before proving what a dumb asshole you truly are.
"But an even cursory review of the news media coverage of the issue reveals that, just as
there was no consensus at the time among scientists, so was there also no consensus among
journalists."

Wait. You just told us the consensus was cooling. Now you post something saying that's false. Can you settle on one point, instead of flipflopping so madly?

I hope Trump shuts down your Warmer titty and you have to find a real job.

You're not actually pretending you've ever held a job in your life, are you?

Now, can you stop deflecting from the thread with rants about global warming? The topic is efficiency standards. Let's talk about that.

I can't find anything anywhere proposing 15 SEER standards. That seems to be a crazy rumor from the OP. The whole thread is crazy rumors from the luddites. I think I'll go drive my very reliable low-pollution high-efficiency car now. Damn, efficiency standards really suck.

 

[Iceweasel]

You chopped up the post to make a response difficult so I'll put your words in pink. Mine in bold blue. And when you lie, I'm calling you an ASSHOLE.


So in other words, nobody taught you in the 1970s. You just made up that huge whopper.

What did happen is you recently read some propaganda from kook right blogs, and you tried to pass off a big lie about how you were "taught" in the 1970s. And now you're busted, and your tears are delightful to behold.

No, I was taught that, you're an ASSHOLE. You tried to claim to know my education better than me by posting a chart on how many publications were on the subject. That makes no sense. You think curriculum is taught by percentages of periodicals of the moment? That's beyond stupid, you're trying to scam people.



You just admitted you weren't taught global cooling. The study conclusively proves the "science predicted cooling" crap you're peddling was a myth. Won't stop you from still trying to pass it off, of course, as your cult tells you that lying for TheCause is good and noble.


When did I admit I wasn't taught cooling? ASSHOLE. I said the opposite and said I was taught cooling, as were many others in the day. The words are still there.




Wait. You just told us the consensus was cooling. Now you post something saying that's false. Can you settle on one point, instead of flipflopping so madly?


No I didn't ASSHOLE. I said I was taught it, you brought up consensus.



You're not actually pretending you've ever held a job in your life, are you?

Now, can you stop deflecting from the thread with rants about global warming? The topic is efficiency standards. Let's talk about that.

No, let's talk about what a lying asshole you are. It's what warmers do. You don't have facts so you lie and smear while pretending you're won something. All you get from me is a lying ASSHOLE trophy.

 

[mamooth]

Pink fonts? You're losing it completely. I clearly need to back off before you injure yourself.

 

[Iceweasel]

Pink fonts? You're losing it completely. I clearly need to back off before you injure yourself.

If you act like a kunt you'll be treated like one.

 

[pwjohn]

Or the low-juice LED traffic lights they installed widespread in Minnesota and Wisconsin that got completely covered in snow and ice BECAUSE there was not "wasted heat"... Had to install heaters. True story..

BS comparison.
That's true of all things in the northern tier states. Even car & truck engines that generate heat by design require an external source of heat during the winter months in that neck of the woods.

 

[depotoo]

Oh, please. You fell for that?

Remember the oft-repeated ‘97% of climate change scientists agree humans have contributed to the rising global temperatures’ line? The 2009 Doran and Zimmerman paper made that claim, but the authors disagree with the methodology behind the paper. For example, it was a two-minute online survey sent to 10,257 scientists, of which 3,146 people responded. However, these scientists were geologists, paleontologists, oceanographers and not physicists, meteorologists and those who would know the field intimately. “Neither was academic qualification a factor – about 1,000 of those surveyed,” the authors noted, “did not have a Ph.D., some didn’t even have a master’s diploma.” They also estimated only 5% of the respondents “self-identified as climate scientists.” There were also issues in how the questions were worded and where the 97% consensus claim came from, which apparently was from 79 respondents within that sample.

From academia.org

MMGW is a hoax....science is very clear...

Not according to 95% of the scientists in the world.

 

[depotoo]

Ice charts: DMI

post those pictures if you have them. The arctic and Antarctic ice is growing in its normal seasonal patterns. There are more polar bears today than there were 50 years ago. Glaciers have been calving for hundreds of thousands of years, nothing new about that.

the prophet algore said that florida would be under water by now and that there would be no ice in the arctic. He lied and you fools bought it.

 

[BULLDOG]

Exactly, turns out the supposed safer refrigerant was not more efficient or so safe and newer systems have been having issues quicker then then the former.
My suggestion is to buy the older refrigerant on Amazon $27-$30 a can not 100 from AC co and have your certified AC friend or company fill the system this at least saves 50% + on the freon costs as the A/C guy doubles or more the already excessive cost of freon.
Or if you have some experience from car freon installations learn home AC on Youtube get a license $50-$65 and do it yourself.
All you need are cheap leak detectors under $20. and metalic bonding compound to repair found leaks, manifolds (pressure reader) under $30 that read your type of freon, and a temp gauge for the hi and lo line.

Great idea. I think I'll also check on the DIY appendectomy kit too. What could go wrong?

We were just talking about luddites like you the other day....more specifically about the younger generation being incapable of using hand tools and how the hand tool market is suffering because the younger generation can barley change a lightbulb now.

It's sad how you need someone else to tell you what to do......and are now incapable of doing for yourself....

I haven't needed anyone to tell me what to do for decades, but I will admit that since I retired, I do prefer to pay someone else do a lot of the things I used to do.

 

[Redfish]

**** liberals, I purchased a government regulated low flow shower head at Home Depot and drilled a big ass hole in the low flow restrictor with my cordless drill, eat it libs!

me too. screw em all!