Hear direct from a Ukrainian about the so called Quid Pro Quo. Their opinion is interesting.

[HappyJoy]

That was exactly what Trump did in an open phone call? LOL

That's exactly NOT what Trump did in the phone cal
Trump tried to use a QPQ strong arm deal to force Ukraine to open a bogus investigation into his political opponent.

PERSONAL GAIN...EXTORTION

He was not "fighting corruption". In fact the Defense Department had certified that corruption was not an issue at this time and that this funding should go forward.,

We should stop using the term quid pro quo and call it what it was, extortion.

Extortion....bribery......abusing the office of President of personal gain.....asking a foreign government to interfere in our election......

Sounds awful. DJT likely has no chance to win in 2020. We should let the people decide.

Nah, there's a lot of dumb people who would vote for him and impeachment shouldn't be decided by electability anyway.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

That was exactly what Trump did in an open phone call? LOL

That's exactly NOT what Trump did in the phone cal
Trump tried to use a QPQ strong arm deal to force Ukraine to open a bogus investigation into his political opponent.

PERSONAL GAIN...EXTORTION

He was not "fighting corruption". In fact the Defense Department had certified that corruption was not an issue at this time and that this funding should go forward.,

We should stop using the term quid pro quo and call it what it was, extortion.

Extortion....bribery......abusing the office of President of personal gain.....asking a foreign government to interfere in our election......

Sounds awful. DJT likely has no chance to win in 2020. We should let the people decide.

Nah, there's a lot of dumb people who would vote for him and impeachment shouldn't be decided by electability anyway.

LOL —- those in glass houses.

 

[HappyJoy]

That's exactly NOT what Trump did in the phone cal
Trump tried to use a QPQ strong arm deal to force Ukraine to open a bogus investigation into his political opponent.

PERSONAL GAIN...EXTORTION

He was not "fighting corruption". In fact the Defense Department had certified that corruption was not an issue at this time and that this funding should go forward.,

We should stop using the term quid pro quo and call it what it was, extortion.

Extortion....bribery......abusing the office of President of personal gain.....asking a foreign government to interfere in our election......

Sounds awful. DJT likely has no chance to win in 2020. We should let the people decide.

Nah, there's a lot of dumb people who would vote for him and impeachment shouldn't be decided by electability anyway.

LOL —- those in glass houses.

Yeah, I'm not voting for him, my house is steel compared to those voting for the swamp monster.

 

[Syriusly]

And again, Gator, he is not making stuff up about Biden.

He thinks Ukrainians should want to do that themselves without him having to tell them.

Well if Ukraine claims to be cracking down on illegal corruption then this would be a start? How can the POTUS authorize weaponry to a corrupt Gov't?

Not only does Ukraine claim to be cracking down on corruption- the U.S. had certified that they had made advances prior to Trump's hold on the funds for weapons.
Pentagon certified Ukraine had taken 'substantial actions' to clean up corruption, green lighting $250M in military aid in May

President Trump has cited corruption in Ukraine as one of the reasons his administration withheld $250 million in military aid beginning in July, ahead of a controversial July 25 phone call with his Ukrainian counterpart.

But Fox News has confirmed that the Pentagon’s undersecretary for policy, John Rood, sent a letter to Capitol Hill lawmakers in May certifying “the government of Ukraine has taken substantial actions to make defense institutional reforms for the purposes of decreasing corruption [and] increasing accountability,” as first reported by NPR.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

We should stop using the term quid pro quo and call it what it was, extortion.

Extortion....bribery......abusing the office of President of personal gain.....asking a foreign government to interfere in our election......

Sounds awful. DJT likely has no chance to win in 2020. We should let the people decide.

Nah, there's a lot of dumb people who would vote for him and impeachment shouldn't be decided by electability anyway.

LOL —- those in glass houses.

Yeah, I'm not voting for him, my house is steel compared to those voting for the swamp monster.

Congrats to you. The fact that you call those who disagree with you politically as “dumb” is humorous and makes you a Leftist, which is as bad as the Alt Right.

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

The Ukrainian/American Colonel...whistleblower is a ****, and cannot be trusted.

Oh what's this suddenly you don't like whistleblowers anymore?

He is a Jew...trust them at your own peril.

Always fascinating to hear from a true Trump supporter.

"Its the Joooooos"

Trump loves em...

 

[Syriusly]

He didn't make up charges against Biden. He asked Ukraine to state publicly that they would investigate corruption and nepotism.

Specifically regarding Burisma and Biden.

Yes, but he didn't make it up. There is something fishy there, is there not?

No- Trump didn't make up the charges- other right wing operatives did.
Is there something fishy there? On the Trump scale of fishy? No. A son got a job because of his last name. Biden followed through on U.S. policy.

What is fishy is how the Right wing creates these stories.

The Invention of the Conspiracy Theory on Biden and Ukraine

A pivotal source of the allegations against the Bidens, for instance, is the Government Accountability Institute, a Florida-based opposition-research operation that was founded by the former Trump political adviser Stephen Bannon—the same conservative nonprofit that ginned up questionable stories about the Clintons during the last Presidential campaign. In both instances, much of the coverage of the scandal was kicked off by Peter Schweizer, a longtime conservative political writer who is an editor-at-large at Breitbart News and the president of the Government Accountability Institute. Since its founding, in 2012, the group has largely been funded with millions of dollars in tax-exempt donations from the family foundation of the New York hedge-fund magnate Robert Mercer, who was a major donor to Trump’s 2016 campaign. In the organization’s most recently available I.R.S. tax filings, for 2017, Mercer’s daughter Rebekah is listed as the board chairman.

In March of 2018, Schweizer and the Government Accountability Institute once again produced a book that was perfectly timed for the Presidential campaign. “Secret Empires” devoted a chapter to the subject of “Bidens in Ukraine,” which laid out the conflicts of interest posed by the wheeling and dealing of Biden’s son Hunter. (An additional chapter laid out Hunter Biden’s business deals in China.) As the book recounted, in 2014, Hunter Biden, a Washington lobbyist, took a profitable post on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian gas company run by a shady oligarch, while his father, who was then the Vice-President, handled a drive to rid Ukraine of corruption. Other news organizations, including the Times and the Wall Street Journal, had already run stories on the same unethical-seeming morass. (In July, The New Yorker published a piece about the relationship between Joe and Hunter Biden that dismissed allegations of any illegality in the Ukraine matter but included some concerns from Obama Administration officials that Hunter could potentially undermine his father’s work.)

But Schweizer went a step further. His chapter implied not just that Burisma was a crooked company but that the end of a Ukrainian criminal investigation into it on January 12, 2017, was in some unstated way connected to Joe Biden’s visit to the country four days later. In this way, Schweizer floated the possibility that, as Vice-President, Biden had abused his power to protect the company or his son from prosecution. Yet Schweizer provided no proof of causation nor evidence of illegality.

 

[Syriusly]

Extortion....bribery......abusing the office of President of personal gain.....asking a foreign government to interfere in our election......

Sounds awful. DJT likely has no chance to win in 2020. We should let the people decide.

Nah, there's a lot of dumb people who would vote for him and impeachment shouldn't be decided by electability anyway.

LOL —- those in glass houses.

Yeah, I'm not voting for him, my house is steel compared to those voting for the swamp monster.

Congrats to you. The fact that you call those who disagree with you politically as “dumb” is humorous and makes you a Leftist, which is as bad as the Alt Right.

Wow- so all of those people who call those opposed to Trump 'dumb' are leftists?

 

[Syriusly]

No, Trump used his own personal attorney that has no ties or position in the US Govt. This at a minimum raises questions as to if he was doing it for personal gain in the way of harming a political opponent.

Then why he say this in an open forum? Is he that brazen? To me there was no intent to hide it, why do you think that is?

Now Rudy has come out and said all his work was for Trump personally and not for the Govt...and we have Trump on record as telling the Ukraine to deal with Rudy for the corruption investigation....seems like there was some personal gain there for Trump

What was the personal gain?

damage to his top political opponent

Biden would never have made it out of the primary regardless. He's a loser. Always has been

Yet Trump can't stop talking about him.

 

[Syriusly]

One America News Network (OANN), also referred to as One America News (OAN), is an American right-wing[1][2] to radical right wing[3] pay television news channel launched on July 4, 2013, owned by Herring Networks, Inc. The network is headquartered in San Diego, California, and operates a news bureau in Washington, D.C.[4] and New York City.

Originally launched with the intention of targeting a conservative and center-right audience,[5][6] OAN states a goal of delivering credible national and international news coverage throughout the day while its prime time political talk shows illustrate a conservative perspective.[7][8][9] The channel is pro-Trump.[7][10] Both Vanity Fair and The Independent in London have said that the channel promotes falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[8][11]

Irrelevant to the content of the interview.

Go cry in a corner now as your house of cards collapses

'content of the interview'.

Why would I click on OAN malware?

Who is the guy?
What does he claim?

And how does it change the fact that President Trump made a secret call to the President of Ukraine to ask him to investigate his political rival?

And how does it change the fact that multiple American officials have reported that Ukraine was being told that if they wanted the aid released, they needed to make a public statement that they were investigating the Bidens?

^^^^^uninformed lemming

Sorry- just because I won't click on the clickbait you post doesn't make me uninformed.
Frankly those of you who blindly believe what OAN says are the lemmings.
Did you even bother to listen to it?
You can't even seem to be able to summarize what this guy is saying.

 

[sartre play]

Worked-with-beating-Hillary-so-why-not-again-with-Biden?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Sounds awful. DJT likely has no chance to win in 2020. We should let the people decide.

Nah, there's a lot of dumb people who would vote for him and impeachment shouldn't be decided by electability anyway.

LOL —- those in glass houses.

Yeah, I'm not voting for him, my house is steel compared to those voting for the swamp monster.

Congrats to you. The fact that you call those who disagree with you politically as “dumb” is humorous and makes you a Leftist, which is as bad as the Alt Right.

Wow- so all of those people who call those opposed to Trump 'dumb' are leftists?

You mean the Alt Right? That’s the other side of the Leftist.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Then why he say this in an open forum? Is he that brazen? To me there was no intent to hide it, why do you think that is?

Now Rudy has come out and said all his work was for Trump personally and not for the Govt...and we have Trump on record as telling the Ukraine to deal with Rudy for the corruption investigation....seems like there was some personal gain there for Trump

What was the personal gain?

damage to his top political opponent

Biden would never have made it out of the primary regardless. He's a loser. Always has been

Yet Trump can't stop talking about him.

Trump is a smack talker. Remember “Lying Ted”?

 

[MAGAman]

No, Trump used his own personal attorney that has no ties or position in the US Govt. This at a minimum raises questions as to if he was doing it for personal gain in the way of harming a political opponent.

No, it doesn't.

Mueller and Democrats were personally attacking Trump. He has the same right to a lawyer as Democrats have.

 

[bripat9643]

One America News Network (OANN), also referred to as One America News (OAN), is an American right-wing[1][2] to radical right wing[3] pay television news channel launched on July 4, 2013, owned by Herring Networks, Inc. The network is headquartered in San Diego, California, and operates a news bureau in Washington, D.C.[4] and New York City.

Originally launched with the intention of targeting a conservative and center-right audience,[5][6] OAN states a goal of delivering credible national and international news coverage throughout the day while its prime time political talk shows illustrate a conservative perspective.[7][8][9] The channel is pro-Trump.[7][10] Both Vanity Fair and The Independent in London have said that the channel promotes falsehoods and conspiracy theories.[8][11]

ROFL! How typical.

Yet, you will cite a source like the NYT or Washington Post or CNN.

How many falsehoods has CNN promoted?

 

[bripat9643]

What I have always had trouble with is Biden admitted on video that he told Ukraine that they could not have the aid if they did not fire a prosecutor.
Quid pro quo. No one blinked an eye.

Because there was no personal gain there.

It actually WAS an effort to stop corruption and was supported by (again...) the IMF, The EU, the World Bank, The Ukrainian Parliament, the G 7, and a bunch of GOP Senators

Can we dispense with that lie now?

Of course there was personal gain: $83K/month to his son.

 

[bripat9643]

This right wing nutblog has foisted Pizza gate

Seth Rich

And virtually every bit of fake news Russian agitprop that went out there.

The entire Mueller investigation was nothing by deep state agitprop, shit for brains.

 

[iceberg]

What I have always had trouble with is Biden admitted on video that he told Ukraine that they could not have the aid if they did not fire a prosecutor.
Quid pro quo. No one blinked an eye.

Because there was no personal gain there.

It actually WAS an effort to stop corruption and was supported by (again...) the IMF, The EU, the World Bank, The Ukrainian Parliament, the G 7, and a bunch of GOP Senators

Can we dispense with that lie now?

Of course there was personal gain: $83K/month to his son.

And a direct connection to state department meeting if latest news is true.

 

[Syriusly]

Now Rudy has come out and said all his work was for Trump personally and not for the Govt...and we have Trump on record as telling the Ukraine to deal with Rudy for the corruption investigation....seems like there was some personal gain there for Trump

What was the personal gain?

damage to his top political opponent

Biden would never have made it out of the primary regardless. He's a loser. Always has been

Yet Trump can't stop talking about him.

Trump is a smack talker. Remember “Lying Ted”?

Trump is indeed a liar.

 

[Syriusly]

What I have always had trouble with is Biden admitted on video that he told Ukraine that they could not have the aid if they did not fire a prosecutor.
Quid pro quo. No one blinked an eye.

Because there was no personal gain there.

It actually WAS an effort to stop corruption and was supported by (again...) the IMF, The EU, the World Bank, The Ukrainian Parliament, the G 7, and a bunch of GOP Senators

Can we dispense with that lie now?

Of course there was personal gain: $83K/month to his son.

Man that monthly payment seems to go up daily when the Trumpettes post about it.

Hunter Biden did benefit from being employed by Burisma.
Joe Biden didn't.
Joe Biden didn't benefit from carrying out U.S. policy to get Ukraine to fire its do nothing prosecutor.