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Then you should have no trouble calling her and asking her for some credible content and metrics that you can either link to or upload.
"Been well known" by whom? I didn't until this conversation give a moment's thought to Nevada schools. Why are you even "on about" NV schools? Your remark wasn't limited to NV schools; you made the broad assertion that "public schools suck," not that "NV public schools suck." I'm the one who introduced NV and I did so only because you mentioned your daughter's schooling.
More importantly than any of that, the original claim I made has nothing to do with NV schools. It doesn't have to do with any state's schools or school system. It has to do with parents behavior. I made that clear to you earlier and you still haven't actually written one word that directly addresses the actual thread topic. Why do you not just address the thread topic?
At this point, I really want to know. To whom do I report dissatisfaction resulting from a moderator's complete refusal to respond, even in your very first post in the thread, refusal to address the topic introduced in the thread's OP, which, BTW, you happened to quote in your first thread post? There must be someone to whom we members can report our grievances.
Do parents have an effect? Yes. Sometimes. But here's the deal. Teachers spend more waking time with kids than the parents do. Thus, to claim that it is all the parents fault is BS.I've had it with your:
- Who in the conversation between you and me has made that claim? Nobody.
- What has such a claim to do with the thread topic? Nothing.
- Refusal to directly address the thread topic.
- Repeated posts to deflect attention from the thread topic.
Until you feel like you can and will respond directly to the thread topic as presented in the OP, I'd be happy to read that response. In the meantime, please tell me how to put you on ignore.
I specifically referred to this paragraph. Do you not remember writing it? One of the worst schools in Nevada was actually FOUNDED by Eugene Paslov, who was the Nevada Schools Superintendent. He was an incredibly nice man, but totally inept at running a school. This is a recurring issue when progressives are allowed to control education. The very fact that they modeled the USA's school system on the Prussian Model should raise concern for everyone. That system was specifically geared towards raising a compliant population to further the goals of the Kaiser.
"More importantly than any of that, the original claim I made has nothing to do with NV schools. It doesn't have to do with any state's schools or school system. It has to do with parents behavior. I made that clear to you earlier and you still haven't actually written one word that directly addresses the actual thread topic. Why do you not just address the thread topic?"
Just stop trying to be coyly equivocating. You know as well as I:
- You've stripped from this conversation the original post to which you replied. You know as well as I do that at the start of the quoted thread of discussion above, I clarified for you that this thread was about the parental behavior noted in the OP.
To in summary remind you, the thread question is this. Why do parents of private school kids seem more given to complaining about the quality private school in question only after the child has completed school, whereas parents (and others) complain about public schools before, during and after the child has graduated from public school?
- You have failed to show the barest modicum of respect one might expect from a site moderator, regardless of how other members behave, by, at least with your first post, the one in which you clearly quoted the OP, responding directly to the thread topic.
- Your first post in this thread that responded by quoting me/my OP -- You completely ignored the topic of the OP and wrote about schools even though the OP was about parents behavior.
- My response to that post -- In my response to you, I specifically clarified that the intent and purpose of the OP/thread is to discuss the behavior of the parents as follows.
Additionally, the questions I've asked in the OP have to do with the timing of parents' griping about the schools their kids attend; the temporal theme is found in all three paragraphs of the OP. How does one miss that? ....Yet people would become temerariously pissed at me were I to ridicule their reading comprehension skills....
The central theme is that people "bitch and moan" about private schools after the kid graduates, whereas they do so about public schools before their kids attend, and presumably after their kids graduate. Some people likely deride public schools when they don't even have kids or haven't recently had any who were in a K-12 school.- I have asked you repeatedly to please respond directly to the thread topic. You still have not been polite enough to do so.
I don't really give a damn about the Nevada school system. I asked in my OP for people's thoughts about parental behavior, not about Nevada school systems. Go create a thread about Nevada school systems and I'll be more than happy to refrain from posting in it.You specifically cite the parents, while exonerating the Nevada school system.
I made it very clear already that the original claim I made (in the OP) has nothing to do with NV schools. It doesn't have to do with any state's schools or school system. The only reason I mentioned NV ( you didn't mention NV schools initially) is because you show as being in NV and you wrote:
The purpose for my mentioning and citing the ratings for some NV high schools was to illustrate why I challenged the legitimacy of your claim that "any sane person would" pay for their child to go to private school by showing that there are obviously good public high schools in NV. Thus sending one's child to one of good public high schools in NV cannot possibly indicate insanity and a parent who send their child to one cannot, as your remark implies, be simplistically inferred to be insane.I'm paying for my girl to go to private school. Any sane person would.
The MAJORITY of schools in Nevada are sub par. Are there some good public schools? Of course there are, but the MAJORITY are not. That is a fact. Even the schools that are "good" are only good for the top 10% of their students. If you are an average student you will get a bit of help, but not enough to blossom into a good student. If you are a poor student you will remain a poor student. That too is a fact. One of the kids in my daughters school moved to Carson City. Carson High is rated as a good school. The kid involved is a very motivated student and will succeed in whatever endeavor he chooses to engage in. I asked him his impression of CH and he basically reiterated what we had been told by the parents of other kids who attended that school.
The top 10% get loads of help, the average kids get a bit, and the poor students flounder. My point still stands, if you have the money you send your kid to a private school. Any sane person would, because the investment in money will generate far more benefit down the road for that particular kid. Now, if I had a child who wasn't smart or motivated, then it would not make sense to send them to a private school. They would get nothing out of it. And that too would be sane. But, those are the exceptions to the rule.
The problem that public schools have is they teach to the lowest common denominator. The teachers have no incentive (other than personal desire, which some have in spades) to ensure that their students do well. The teachers aren't rated by the students as they are in college and if they are a bad teacher the teachers union protects them. In my daughters school a few years ago there was a teacher who wasn't doing a good job. She was fired. It was that simple.
I am in the process of responding to your most recent comments about Nevada schools in a new thread that offers the opportunity for others to discuss similar ideas, and for you and I to discuss Nevada schools and the sagacity of sending a child to a private school vs. a public one.
I've had my fill of the off topic line of discussion -- Nevada schools, and public vs. private schools -- in this thread. This thread was created to discuss why it is that parents of private school attending kids seem not to complain about the quality of their children's private school education until after it's too late, that is, not until after the child has graduated.
That's because, in general, a private school gives you high quality education. If it doesn't they leave. That's the beauty of private vs public school. In a public school your kid is trapped. I notice you haven't provided examples of people complaining about the lack of education for their children in a private school. You make a claim but have ZERO supporting evidence for that claim. Why is that?
The only examples I have are personal anecdotes as goes the specific temporally constrained scenario my OP defines. I'm happy to share them, but they are just anecdotes.