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Socialised Medicine in US....

It is interesting, it would definitely give better value to Americans in some ways...

The US privatisation of medicine has made the most expensive in the world with low coverage compared to other first world countries.
The problem is the in grained stuff in the US system now... Doctors are paid multiple times what there corresponding Doctors are in other first world countries, in UK a Doctor is upper middle class with a nice house, US Doctor in the same position could be a multi millionaire.

Same for Pharmaceuticals... Collective bargaining in EU has drastically reduced the price of drugs and because of equality laws, the price the Government pays has to be offered to the public at the same price. There are no special discounts which means everyone pays the same.


EU at present has individual countries agreeing prices but now wants to move to one price for the EU... Bigger Market, lower prices... Big Pharma doesn't like it, it hurst there massive profits..
The vast majority of pharmaceutical R&D expenditures are done in the US. Other countries use our drugs and benefit from this and don't have to recoup the R&D costs like American firms do.

Is there abuse? Yes.

Also, we use the most advanced medical technology on Earth, and that costs.

I have proposed the fix to our costs many times on this forum.

I should be able to pick the phone and call ANY health insurance company in the country, exactly like I can do with home, auto, and life insurance.

There's a reason you can't. Health insurance companies hate competition. It's a simple as that. And they have bribed both parties to keep it that way.

When you hear a Republican say they want people to be able to buy insurance "across state lines", that is not the same thing as buying insurance from any company in the entire country.

It's a scam.

Secondly, you are held hostage by your employer-provided health insurance. This is bending the cost curve up.

The reason I called Obamacare a bait-and-switch con is because Obamacare more deeply embedded this situation of being hostage to your employer.

Obama was heavily paid by labor unions to do this, to raise the tax exemption level for their luxury employer health care plans.

If I could buy insurance over the phone myself, I am no longer hostage to my employer.

What's more, I don't lose my insurance if I lose my job.

Even better, I get big discounts if I bundle all my insurance together.

If we could buy health insurance from any company in the country, that would engender fierce competition, and this means lower rates.
 
you do realize every thread like this gains more votes for trump dont you??

I am sure trump thanks you for your support,,
Pointing out that Trump claimed to have a “plan” 8 years ago and admits now he never did and still doesn’t …is “gaining votes for Trump”?

Only in your fetid imagination
 
Pointing out that Trump claimed to have a “plan” 8 years ago and admits now he never did and still doesn’t …is “gaining votes for Trump”?

Only in your fetid imagination
Trump's rubes can't bear the thought they were, and continue to be, so easily fooled. Their egos are too fragile.

So they dig in. They double and triple down.
 
Pointing out that Trump claimed to have a “plan” 8 years ago and admits now he never did and still doesn’t …is “gaining votes for Trump”?

Only in your fetid imagination
are you saying obama care is a failure that needs to be changed??

maybe his plan is to let it fail and then do something,,

and why did it take you all day to come up with this??
 
are you saying obama care is a failure that needs to be changed??

maybe his plan is to let it fail and then do something,,

and why did it take you all day to come up with this??
Nope. I very clearly said that Trump claims to have a plan to replace the ACA and clearly doesn’t
 
are you saying obama care is a failure that needs to be changed??

maybe his plan is to let it fail and then do something,,

and why did it take you all day to come up with this??
Wow. You are really gullible!

It's amazing the mental twists you all do to excuse Trump for hoaxing you.
 
June 27. A day of infamy for Donald J. Trump.

TRUMP: They've had 3 1/2 years to create jobs and all the things we talked about. Why hasn't she done it?

Five minutes earlier, on his Obamacare replacement: "I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now."

Hypocrite Trump WAS president, and he had promised the rubes he would repeal Obamacare and put up a replacement on Day One. Literally. On Day One. That promise was even prominently posted on his campaign web site. And he harped on it all through the 2016 campaign. It was second of his beefs, just behind his complaints about Mexicana and Muslims.

It was a hoax, and the rubes became full-fledged cucks for never holding him accountable for that lie as health care costs continue to skyrocket to this day.

It was only a couple months before Trump's hoax was erased from the web site. Erased! HOAX!

Trump owns that. Thoroughly. But the cucks give him a pass for reasons beyond understanding.


Trump reprised his hoax during the debate:

"I have concepts of a plan. I'm not president right now. But if we come up with something I would only change it if we come up with something better and less expensive. And there are concepts and options we have to do that. And you'll be hearing about it in the not-too-distant future."

"You'll be hearing about it in the not-too-distant future" is a really old and stale Trump setup for his hoaxes.

It's been three and a half months since then, and nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch.

And there never will be.



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Since you're on the topic of fools, fool. Exactly where are kneepads fully fleshed out bills on taxes and price gaging? Or does that commie bitch only have concepts as well after 3.5 years as VP? Come on hypocrite, give us the links to those bills.

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Vote Trump/Vance 2024!!!

Thanks to Kamala Harris gas prices and food prices are WAY to high. Gas is STILL way above $3 in my area. Kamala opened the border to 18 million illegals that Americans are paying for. 2 Wars started under Kamala. Kamala Harris is on video saying she wants us all to go WOKE and saying she wants to BAN FRACKING.
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Since you're on the topic of fools, fool. Exactly where are kneepads fully fleshed out bills on taxes and price gaging? Or does that commie bitch only have concepts as well after 3.5 years as VP? Come on hypocrite, give us the links to those bills.

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Trump was president for 4 years. Harris has never been president. Trump has no plan.
 
And???????????

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Trump had the authority to do all the things he's bitching about but he didn't do anything. Harris has never had the autthority to do the things you scabs are trying to blame her for not doing.
 
Trump had the authority to do all the things he's bitching about but he didn't do anything. Harris has never had the autthority to do the things you scabs are trying to blame her for not doing.


Bullshit, xiden claimed she was in on every major decision, she said she was always the last one in the room. If she really cared about any of that shit it could have been brought up. All she's doing now is gaslighting you gullible commies. He handlers came up with that shit after xiden dropped out. But the reality for both Trump and kneepads is neither know what the numbers they will have in congress will be and what they may be able to get passed. So screw you and your bullshit.

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