Have we really reached this point?

acludem

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We're now charging 9-year-old girls with manslaughter in this country:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9626361/


C'mon. I thought we assumed that kids couldn't rationalize such decisions. Does this mean she should be able to drive, smoke, drink, vote, serve on jury, etc. since we assume she's old enough to understand what it is to kill someone?

acludem
 
acludem said:
We're now charging 9-year-old girls with manslaughter in this country:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9626361/


C'mon. I thought we assumed that kids couldn't rationalize such decisions. Does this mean she should be able to drive, smoke, drink, vote, serve on jury, etc. since we assume she's old enough to understand what it is to kill someone?

acludem

Dunno, not enough info in the article to really make a judgement at this point. I think based on the stuff in that article that she knew exactly what she was doing when she did it. But who knows, like I said, there isn't much to go on from that article.
 
One thing I noticed it didn't say was whether or not she was tried as an adult. My guess is probably not, I certainly hope not.

acludem
 
speederdoc said:
A very good friend and colleague of mine was shot and killed by his 10 year old son, and is presumedly going to be tried. I wish his mother who put him up to it would be as well.

http://www.hisside.com/10_31_04.htm
Geez doc, one would think she would be with all that documentation. As for the son, seems that he should be in a deprogramming unit somewhere. I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.
 
acludem said:
We're now charging 9-year-old girls with manslaughter in this country:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9626361/


C'mon. I thought we assumed that kids couldn't rationalize such decisions. Does this mean she should be able to drive, smoke, drink, vote, serve on jury, etc. since we assume she's old enough to understand what it is to kill someone?

acludem

I don't think kids that age really understand the death is forever.

She obviously has issues that need addressing though, since stabbing someone over a ball isn't a response that a regular child would have. Pulling her out of her home environment will probably be the best thing for her.
 
acludem said:
We're now charging 9-year-old girls with manslaughter in this country:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9626361/

C'mon. I thought we assumed that kids couldn't rationalize such decisions. Does this mean she should be able to drive, smoke, drink, vote, serve on jury, etc. since we assume she's old enough to understand what it is to kill someone?

acludem

Gee I wonder what has happened to this country that would cause such a thing to happen. I certainly don't remember anything like that happening when i was that age. Of course when I was that age we had a tiny black and white television and the parents in the U.S. were shocked at the long haired Beatles that had just appeared on the Ed Sullivan show.

I bet the ACLU wasn't around defending NAMBLA's rights back then either. I know that our President had just been assassinated and we were ALL as a country, mourning his death. There weren't any Republicans trying to score points during that time, and as bad as the jerk was that replaced the slain President, he didn't get on national TV and tell little children that giving or receiving a blow job isn't sex. There weren't extraordinarily violent movies or video games back then either we actually had to use our creativity to entertain ourselves. And if I remember correctly I recited the Pledge of Allegiance with the rest of my class every morning and was very proud of where I was from. And when I came home from school my mother was waiting with snacks for my friends and I. We would stay outside playing and riding our bikes till dark without a care in the world.

I think the biggest difference was that we weren't forced to grow up, we could stay kids until high school, and unlike today our parents had the right to dicipline us and we would have never considered calling the police on them if they spanked us because we knew we deserved it when we did wrong.

Thanks to a lot of lawyers, especially the ACLU, you have really done a great job of screwing up our country! :finger: :finger3: :321:
 
sitarro said:
Gee I wonder what has happened to this country that would cause such a thing to happen. I certainly don't remember anything like that happening when i was that age. Of course when I was that age we had a tiny black and white television and the parents in the U.S. were shocked at the long haired Beatles that had just appeared on the Ed Sullivan show.

I bet the ACLU wasn't around defending NAMBLA's rights back then either. I know that our President had just been assassinated and we were ALL as a country, mourning his death. There weren't any Republicans trying to score points during that time, and as bad as the jerk was that replaced the slain President, he didn't get on national TV and tell little children that giving or receiving a blow job isn't sex. There weren't extraordinarily violent movies or video games back then either we actually had to use our creativity to entertain ourselves. And if I remember correctly I recited the Pledge of Allegiance with the rest of my class every morning and was very proud of where I was from. And when I came home from school my mother was waiting with snacks for my friends and I. We would stay outside playing and riding our bikes till dark without a care in the world.

I think the biggest difference was that we weren't forced to grow up, we could stay kids until high school, and unlike today our parents had the right to dicipline us and we would have never considered calling the police on them if they spanked us because we knew we deserved it when we did wrong.

Thanks a lot lawyers, especially the ACLU, you have really done a great job of screwing up our country! :finger: :finger3: :321:


Except for the TV and video games, spot on. Excellent post.
 
acludem said:
We're now charging 9-year-old girls with manslaughter in this country:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9626361/


C'mon. I thought we assumed that kids couldn't rationalize such decisions. Does this mean she should be able to drive, smoke, drink, vote, serve on jury, etc. since we assume she's old enough to understand what it is to kill someone?

acludem

I'll just bet that you would defend her right to have an abortion, though. :rolleyes:
 
acludem said:
We're now charging 9-year-old girls with manslaughter in this country:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9626361/


C'mon. I thought we assumed that kids couldn't rationalize such decisions. Does this mean she should be able to drive, smoke, drink, vote, serve on jury, etc. since we assume she's old enough to understand what it is to kill someone?

acludem


The age of reason being 7years..I do believe she meets the requirement for prosecution as a juvenile...what her sentence should be will be up to the experts!
 
Originally Posted by acludem
We're now charging 9-year-old girls with manslaughter in this country:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9626361/


C'mon. I thought we assumed that kids couldn't rationalize such decisions. Does this mean she should be able to drive, smoke, drink, vote, serve on jury, etc. since we assume she's old enough to understand what it is to kill someone?

All it would've taken was a lesson on how fun sharing is. *Sigh*
 

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