Did the LEFT screw us, or screw themselves by electing Biden!

[imawhosure]

1. To conservatives-------------->was it worth losing 2020 to bring Trump back in 2024, with him knowing what the Leftists did while he was in office, why they did it, and by allowing this to happen, has the country gone to far in the tank for Trump, or anyone else to bring it back?

2. For Leftist Democrats--------> Was it worth pulling out all the stops to defeat Trump in 2020, only to have him more informed, and ready and able to kick more a*, meaning Leftist a* in 2024?

For BOTH party's------------>If Trump would have won in 2020, a nice man known as Mike Pence, would have been the GOP nominee.......more than likely. He probably would have LOST to the Democratic nominee; also more than likely; as nobody would ever have known how CRAZY the Left would get with the border, etc.......and any inflation would have been pinned on the gop, period, end of story!

And soooooooooo, what we now see in retrospect, is that the LEFT sold out to defeat DJT in 2020; tried LAWFARE to keep him out of politics going forward, and failed. How they failed with the control they had, is totally beyond me, but they did!

And now, he is back! He is wiser, able to do things he never could have done in his 1st term, because for 2 years, the GOP has total control and now Trump knows how to use it, and while I am POSITIVE that he will not suggest that Bondi and friends get the Leftist crooks; well Bondi and friends are GOING to get the Leftist crooks!

Hindsight is an interesting perspective, but as conservatives..........do you think it was worth it.......losing in 2020, and can he starting from a lesser place than that which he left, can he bring us back? Or would you rather have had him win in 2020 and continue on?

As far as Leftist Democrats, would you rather have lost in 2020, and now assume the mantle in 2024; which you almost assuredly would have? Pence could NOT have beaten my Golden Retriever for President, especially with any inflation hanging around his neck, let alone Joe or Kamala!

These questions are actually multi BILLION dollar questions........they really are!

People NEED to understand that the LEFT had Trump under control with everything they threw at him. He and the GOP were on their heels, and the last 4 years would have been the Left making him totally miserable.

Now because of their political brilliance, they have an unleashed DJT, with a total GOP congress, hunting for Leftists; even if they claim they are not!

When you kinda bend things for an advantage, many times it comes back to bite you in the a**! All I want to know from both sides, was it worth LOSING Conservatives in 2020 for what you have now, and from the Left.......if winning in 2020 was worth it for the situation you are in now!

Enquiring minds want to know!

 

[elektra]

1. To conservatives-------------->was it worth losing 2020 to bring Trump back in 2024, with him knowing what the Leftists did while he was in office, why they did it, and by allowing this to happen, has the country gone to far in the tank for Trump, or anyone else to bring it back?

2. For Leftist Democrats--------> Was it worth pulling out all the stops to defeat Trump in 2020, only to have him more informed, and ready and able to kick more a*, meaning Leftist a* in 2024?

For BOTH party's------------>If Trump would have won in 2020, a nice man known as Mike Pence, would have been the GOP nominee.......more than likely. He probably would have LOST to the Democratic nominee; also more than likely; as nobody would ever have known how CRAZY the Left would get with the border, etc.......and any inflation would have been pinned on the gop, period, end of story!

And soooooooooo, what we now see in retrospect, is that the LEFT sold out to defeat DJT in 2020; tried LAWFARE to keep him out of politics going forward, and failed. How they failed with the control they had, is totally beyond me, but they did!

And now, he is back! He is wiser, able to do things he never could have done in his 1st term, because for 2 years, the GOP has total control and now Trump knows how to use it, and while I am POSITIVE that he will not suggest that Bondi and friends get the Leftist crooks; well Bondi and friends are GOING to get the Leftist crooks!

Hindsight is an interesting perspective, but as conservatives..........do you think it was worth it.......losing in 2020, and can he starting from a lesser place than that which he left, can he bring us back? Or would you rather have had him win in 2020 and continue on?

As far as Leftist Democrats, would you rather have lost in 2020, and now assume the mantle in 2024; which you almost assuredly would have? Pence could NOT have beaten my Golden Retriever for President, especially with any inflation hanging around his neck, let alone Joe or Kamala!

These questions are actually multi BILLION dollar questions........they really are!

People NEED to understand that the LEFT had Trump under control with everything they threw at him. He and the GOP were on their heels, and the last 4 years would have been the Left making him totally miserable.

Now because of their political brilliance, they have an unleashed DJT, with a total GOP congress, hunting for Leftists; even if they claim they are not!

When you kinda bend things for an advantage, many times it comes back to bite you in the a**! All I want to know from both sides, was it worth LOSING Conservatives in 2020 for what you have now, and from the Left.......if winning in 2020 was worth it for the situation you are in now!

Enquiring minds want to know!

Your premise is false.

 

[imawhosure]

Your premise is false.

No it is not! If so, tell me how!

 

[elektra]

Was it worth losing? As if we choose to loose.

 

[Oddball]

Your premise is false.

It's actually not.

There are a lot of righties who believe that having the 2020 election stolen was providential, as it exposed how insanely power lusting the statist left -in both parties- are, and the lengths that they will go to to attain and cling to power.

 

[Doc7505]

1. To conservatives-------------->was it worth losing 2020 to bring Trump back in 2024, with him knowing what the Leftists did while he was in office, why they did it, and by allowing this to happen, has the country gone to far in the tank for Trump, or anyone else to bring it back?

2. For Leftist Democrats--------> Was it worth pulling out all the stops to defeat Trump in 2020, only to have him more informed, and ready and able to kick more a*, meaning Leftist a* in 2024?

For BOTH party's------------>If Trump would have won in 2020, a nice man known as Mike Pence, would have been the GOP nominee.......more than likely. He probably would have LOST to the Democratic nominee; also more than likely; as nobody would ever have known how CRAZY the Left would get with the border, etc.......and any inflation would have been pinned on the gop, period, end of story!

And soooooooooo, what we now see in retrospect, is that the LEFT sold out to defeat DJT in 2020; tried LAWFARE to keep him out of politics going forward, and failed. How they failed with the control they had, is totally beyond me, but they did!

And now, he is back! He is wiser, able to do things he never could have done in his 1st term, because for 2 years, the GOP has total control and now Trump knows how to use it, and while I am POSITIVE that he will not suggest that Bondi and friends get the Leftist crooks; well Bondi and friends are GOING to get the Leftist crooks!

Hindsight is an interesting perspective, but as conservatives..........do you think it was worth it.......losing in 2020, and can he starting from a lesser place than that which he left, can he bring us back? Or would you rather have had him win in 2020 and continue on?

As far as Leftist Democrats, would you rather have lost in 2020, and now assume the mantle in 2024; which you almost assuredly would have? Pence could NOT have beaten my Golden Retriever for President, especially with any inflation hanging around his neck, let alone Joe or Kamala!

These questions are actually multi BILLION dollar questions........they really are!

People NEED to understand that the LEFT had Trump under control with everything they threw at him. He and the GOP were on their heels, and the last 4 years would have been the Left making him totally miserable.

Now because of their political brilliance, they have an unleashed DJT, with a total GOP congress, hunting for Leftists; even if they claim they are not!

When you kinda bend things for an advantage, many times it comes back to bite you in the a**! All I want to know from both sides, was it worth LOSING Conservatives in 2020 for what you have now, and from the Left.......if winning in 2020 was worth it for the situation you are in now!

Enquiring minds want to know!

~~~~~~
Indeed, had the Democrats lost the history of the last four years would have been differently written.
As it is, Biden and his Neo-Marxist friends gave us weakness, war, supply chain shortages, child mutilations, inflation, CRT and DEI.
All of which was not necessary, nor wished for by the People....

 

[imawhosure]

Was it worth losing? As if we choose to loose.

That is faulty.......................we DID NOT choose to lose, but somehow, the Left came up with over 80 million votes!

While I might have been smarter to ask Leftists if it was worth the situation they are in now, I decided to ask BOTH sides. The reason is simple------------>was it worth going so far into debt as a country to prove our point, and bring Trump back? Or rather, should we have wanted Trump re-elected, and at the mercy of Fancy Nancy, and Adam Shifty Shiff?

From the federal money side, I can not answer as that is beyond my scope.

From the political side, I know this is a much better deal, DJT unleashed, lol.

Everyone reading this must realize, that come Monday afternoon, the Left will go into their BI-POLAR mode, lol.

Every conservative MUST realize, that for the next 12 months, we do not have to say ANYTHING, no matter how hard Leftists try and goat you to. They have ZERO, NADA, NOTHING, power.

Answering ANY Leftist queries from here on out for the next 12 months, is like answering Mondull if he asked why he lost to Reagan, lol. We are to damn busy fixing what they broke, to answer them! In essence, the adults are back in charge-)

 

[imawhosure]

Honestly people of USMB, the Left has driven this whole situation to where it is now, makes no difference if they like it or not.

They tried everything to make Trump go away. They used the power of the government; and as an aside, they wanted to show anyone else who would DARE to run, that the powers that be will screw you. (isn't that right Chucky Shmucky! And if you have no idea what I am talking about, you have no business on a political board! If you don't know, google Chuck Shumer and the CIA)

What Chucky Shmucky basically admitted was---------->that the CIA controls him! How else would reasonable people take it? If they can hose a President, then what can they do to a senator?

From right to left politically, if you really LOVE your country, we need to get control of these people. Oh sure, we can agree to disagree on what we want to do, but anytime a SMART-A** senator starts talking about the CIA getting involved.....remember.........the CIA can NOT LEGALLY do ANYTHING inside the USA borders. If they do, it is ILLEGAL!

Now tell us, why are you NOT surprised they would-)

 

[dudmuck]

It's actually not.

There are a lot of righties who believe that having the 2020 election stolen was providential, as it exposed how insanely power lusting the statist left -in both parties- are, and the lengths that they will go to to attain and cling to power.

Then why didn't they do the same power grab in 2024?

 

[Winston]

That is faulty.......................we DID NOT choose to lose, but somehow, the Left came up with over 80 million votes!

While I might have been smarter to ask Leftists if it was worth the situation they are in now, I decided to ask BOTH sides. The reason is simple------------>was it worth going so far into debt as a country to prove our point, and bring Trump back? Or rather, should we have wanted Trump re-elected, and at the mercy of Fancy Nancy, and Adam Shifty Shiff?

From the federal money side, I can not answer as that is beyond my scope.

From the political side, I know this is a much better deal, DJT unleashed, lol.

Everyone reading this must realize, that come Monday afternoon, the Left will go into their BI-POLAR mode, lol.

Every conservative MUST realize, that for the next 12 months, we do not have to say ANYTHING, no matter how hard Leftists try and goat you to. They have ZERO, NADA, NOTHING, power.

Answering ANY Leftist queries from here on out for the next 12 months, is like answering Mondull if he asked why he lost to Reagan, lol. We are to damn busy fixing what they broke, to answer them! In essence, the adults are back in charge-)

You are absolutely delusional. First of all, the election of 2020 was not "stolen". Let's get that out of the way immediately. Second, inflation was inherent, built in,
and most of it was caused by Trump. Biden decreased the deficit. Maybe you have a hard time understanding the difference between deficit and debt.

History will judge Trump's first term harshly. Biden, on the other hand, will go down as one of the most effective presidents in history, on par with Johnson. Somehow Biden defeated inflation without a recession, that has never happened before. And even more spectacular, real incomes have increased more than the rate of inflation over his term. Again, has never happened before.

I see Trump supporters as a bunch of Mr. MaGoo's. Blind to the benefits Biden has provided. But worse, they are blind to the danger Trump represents. The real question, will all the MaGoo's eventually wake up, open their eyes, and see that danger.

 

[elektra]

It's actually not.

There are a lot of righties who believe that having the 2020 election stolen was providential, as it exposed how insanely power lusting the statist left -in both parties- are, and the lengths that they will go to to attain and cling to power.

I read it as if we intentionally lost

Was it worth losing, as if we threw in the towel.

Or is the premise Trump is the wrong person to vote as the nominee to run.

 

[Winston]

I read it as if we intentionally lost

Was it worth losing, as if we threw in the towel.

Or is the premise Trump is the wrong person to vote as the nominee to run.

Give a fool enough rope and he will hang himself.

 

[jc456]

1. To conservatives-------------->was it worth losing 2020 to bring Trump back in 2024, with him knowing what the Leftists did while he was in office, why they did it, and by allowing this to happen, has the country gone to far in the tank for Trump, or anyone else to bring it back?

2. For Leftist Democrats--------> Was it worth pulling out all the stops to defeat Trump in 2020, only to have him more informed, and ready and able to kick more a*, meaning Leftist a* in 2024?

For BOTH party's------------>If Trump would have won in 2020, a nice man known as Mike Pence, would have been the GOP nominee.......more than likely. He probably would have LOST to the Democratic nominee; also more than likely; as nobody would ever have known how CRAZY the Left would get with the border, etc.......and any inflation would have been pinned on the gop, period, end of story!

And soooooooooo, what we now see in retrospect, is that the LEFT sold out to defeat DJT in 2020; tried LAWFARE to keep him out of politics going forward, and failed. How they failed with the control they had, is totally beyond me, but they did!

And now, he is back! He is wiser, able to do things he never could have done in his 1st term, because for 2 years, the GOP has total control and now Trump knows how to use it, and while I am POSITIVE that he will not suggest that Bondi and friends get the Leftist crooks; well Bondi and friends are GOING to get the Leftist crooks!

Hindsight is an interesting perspective, but as conservatives..........do you think it was worth it.......losing in 2020, and can he starting from a lesser place than that which he left, can he bring us back? Or would you rather have had him win in 2020 and continue on?

As far as Leftist Democrats, would you rather have lost in 2020, and now assume the mantle in 2024; which you almost assuredly would have? Pence could NOT have beaten my Golden Retriever for President, especially with any inflation hanging around his neck, let alone Joe or Kamala!

These questions are actually multi BILLION dollar questions........they really are!

People NEED to understand that the LEFT had Trump under control with everything they threw at him. He and the GOP were on their heels, and the last 4 years would have been the Left making him totally miserable.

Now because of their political brilliance, they have an unleashed DJT, with a total GOP congress, hunting for Leftists; even if they claim they are not!

When you kinda bend things for an advantage, many times it comes back to bite you in the a**! All I want to know from both sides, was it worth LOSING Conservatives in 2020 for what you have now, and from the Left.......if winning in 2020 was worth it for the situation you are in now!

Enquiring minds want to know!

Me thinks it was necessary to expose the swamp. And holy fk are they many creatures! Wow. Just the nomination hearings exposed them more! I’m loving it

 

[dblack]

Both

 

[Crepitus]

Did the LEFT screw us, or screw themselves by electing Biden!​

YOu people have lost your fucking minds. The one's who have screwed us, and that "us" includes themselves, you you tRumplings.

 

[The Duke]

1. To conservatives-------------->was it worth losing 2020 to bring Trump back in 2024, with him knowing what the Leftists did while he was in office, why they did it, and by allowing this to happen, has the country gone to far in the tank for Trump, or anyone else to bring it back?

2. For Leftist Democrats--------> Was it worth pulling out all the stops to defeat Trump in 2020, only to have him more informed, and ready and able to kick more a*, meaning Leftist a* in 2024?

For BOTH party's------------>If Trump would have won in 2020, a nice man known as Mike Pence, would have been the GOP nominee.......more than likely. He probably would have LOST to the Democratic nominee; also more than likely; as nobody would ever have known how CRAZY the Left would get with the border, etc.......and any inflation would have been pinned on the gop, period, end of story!

And soooooooooo, what we now see in retrospect, is that the LEFT sold out to defeat DJT in 2020; tried LAWFARE to keep him out of politics going forward, and failed. How they failed with the control they had, is totally beyond me, but they did!

And now, he is back! He is wiser, able to do things he never could have done in his 1st term, because for 2 years, the GOP has total control and now Trump knows how to use it, and while I am POSITIVE that he will not suggest that Bondi and friends get the Leftist crooks; well Bondi and friends are GOING to get the Leftist crooks!

Hindsight is an interesting perspective, but as conservatives..........do you think it was worth it.......losing in 2020, and can he starting from a lesser place than that which he left, can he bring us back? Or would you rather have had him win in 2020 and continue on?

As far as Leftist Democrats, would you rather have lost in 2020, and now assume the mantle in 2024; which you almost assuredly would have? Pence could NOT have beaten my Golden Retriever for President, especially with any inflation hanging around his neck, let alone Joe or Kamala!

These questions are actually multi BILLION dollar questions........they really are!

People NEED to understand that the LEFT had Trump under control with everything they threw at him. He and the GOP were on their heels, and the last 4 years would have been the Left making him totally miserable.

Now because of their political brilliance, they have an unleashed DJT, with a total GOP congress, hunting for Leftists; even if they claim they are not!

When you kinda bend things for an advantage, many times it comes back to bite you in the a**! All I want to know from both sides, was it worth LOSING Conservatives in 2020 for what you have now, and from the Left.......if winning in 2020 was worth it for the situation you are in now!

Enquiring minds want to know!

 

[okfine]

You are absolutely delusional. First of all, the election of 2020 was not "stolen". Let's get that out of the way immediately. Second, inflation was inherent, built in,
and most of it was caused by Trump. Biden decreased the deficit. Maybe you have a hard time understanding the difference between deficit and debt.

History will judge Trump's first term harshly. Biden, on the other hand, will go down as one of the most effective presidents in history, on par with Johnson. Somehow Biden defeated inflation without a recession, that has never happened before. And even more spectacular, real incomes have increased more than the rate of inflation over his term. Again, has never happened before.

I see Trump supporters as a bunch of Mr. MaGoo's. Blind to the benefits Biden has provided. But worse, they are blind to the danger Trump represents. The real question, will all the MaGoo's eventually wake up, open their eyes, and see that danger.

The OP is a hoosier. Don't expect anything related to honesty.

 

[Lesh]

You are absolutely delusional. First of all, the election of 2020 was not "stolen". Let's get that out of the way immediately. Second, inflation was inherent, built in,
and most of it was caused by Trump. Biden decreased the deficit. Maybe you have a hard time understanding the difference between deficit and debt.

History will judge Trump's first term harshly. Biden, on the other hand, will go down as one of the most effective presidents in history, on par with Johnson. Somehow Biden defeated inflation without a recession, that has never happened before. And even more spectacular, real incomes have increased more than the rate of inflation over his term. Again, has never happened before.

I see Trump supporters as a bunch of Mr. MaGoo's. Blind to the benefits Biden has provided. But worse, they are blind to the danger Trump represents. The real question, will all the MaGoo's eventually wake up, open their eyes, and see that danger.

Exactly

They need to get over themselves

 

[TruthNotBS]

1. To conservatives-------------->was it worth losing 2020 to bring Trump back in 2024, with him knowing what the Leftists did while he was in office, why they did it, and by allowing this to happen, has the country gone to far in the tank for Trump, or anyone else to bring it back?

2. For Leftist Democrats--------> Was it worth pulling out all the stops to defeat Trump in 2020, only to have him more informed, and ready and able to kick more a*, meaning Leftist a* in 2024?

For BOTH party's------------>If Trump would have won in 2020, a nice man known as Mike Pence, would have been the GOP nominee.......more than likely. He probably would have LOST to the Democratic nominee; also more than likely; as nobody would ever have known how CRAZY the Left would get with the border, etc.......and any inflation would have been pinned on the gop, period, end of story!

And soooooooooo, what we now see in retrospect, is that the LEFT sold out to defeat DJT in 2020; tried LAWFARE to keep him out of politics going forward, and failed. How they failed with the control they had, is totally beyond me, but they did!

And now, he is back! He is wiser, able to do things he never could have done in his 1st term, because for 2 years, the GOP has total control and now Trump knows how to use it, and while I am POSITIVE that he will not suggest that Bondi and friends get the Leftist crooks; well Bondi and friends are GOING to get the Leftist crooks!

Hindsight is an interesting perspective, but as conservatives..........do you think it was worth it.......losing in 2020, and can he starting from a lesser place than that which he left, can he bring us back? Or would you rather have had him win in 2020 and continue on?

As far as Leftist Democrats, would you rather have lost in 2020, and now assume the mantle in 2024; which you almost assuredly would have? Pence could NOT have beaten my Golden Retriever for President, especially with any inflation hanging around his neck, let alone Joe or Kamala!

These questions are actually multi BILLION dollar questions........they really are!

People NEED to understand that the LEFT had Trump under control with everything they threw at him. He and the GOP were on their heels, and the last 4 years would have been the Left making him totally miserable.

Now because of their political brilliance, they have an unleashed DJT, with a total GOP congress, hunting for Leftists; even if they claim they are not!

When you kinda bend things for an advantage, many times it comes back to bite you in the a**! All I want to know from both sides, was it worth LOSING Conservatives in 2020 for what you have now, and from the Left.......if winning in 2020 was worth it for the situation you are in now!

Enquiring minds want to know!

The left didn't elect Biden in 2020, they elected Bernie Sanders, but the establishment made sure Biden got the ticket.

 

[Mac-7]

Did the LEFT screw us, or screw themselves by electing Biden!​

Trump will have a better 4 years starting in 2025 than he would have if he had won in 2020